Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

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Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

Adding a registry entry is not a hack. It is, well, adding a registry
entry. It is simply adding a new definition to the database for the OS to
use in configuring Windows. That's what regedit is for. A Windows hack is
quite something else again.

The BCD store (what you are referring to as the botmangr) is written to the
root of the XP drive when adding Vista to an XP system. Removing the BCD
store does not cripple XP. Anyway that's where VistaBoot Pro is so handy.

"Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:ujbA%23vxdIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> No you won't Don. If the first drive is XP in the bios, by default it will
> boot into XP without requests. If you want Vista then you must use the
> boot menu.
>
> Vista bootmngr when used with XP can be a real hassle. Because if you
> decide to get rid of Vista Xp will not boot anymore if Vista was using
> botmngr for both drives.
>
> Having 2 different O/S boot on two different drives with bios boot,
> eliminates Bootmngr and loosing system restore options without having to
> hack the registry.
> --
> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
> www.zardoc.com
> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>
>
>
> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hey Lance,
>>
>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I will
>> always have to go in and select which drive to boot from correct, rather
>> than having it give me the option of which OS to boot to during bootup?
>>
>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is working great
>> as is.
>>
>> Many thanks again,
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is individual.
>>>
>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.
>>>
>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's Vista.
>>> It's running nice and smooth with SP1.
>>>
>>> Have fun.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>> www.zardoc.com
>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>
>>>
>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all parition
>>>> letters intact as they should be.
>>>> Many thanks Lance!!
>>>>
>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was intalled on
>>>> as the first, and it booted right up into XP.
>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the hard disk
>>>> that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.
>>>>
>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many thanks!!
>>>>
>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an option
>>>> between Vista and XP upon booting?
>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it like it is
>>>> if I need to.
>>>>
>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged when
>>>> installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new drive.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> You made a good choice.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it usually
>>>>> means that the Vista installation did not see your XP drive (was it
>>>>> unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should be able to boot from
>>>>> bios to the drive you want.
>>>>>
>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if you don't
>>>>> touch anything XP will boot first.
>>>>>
>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from (usually
>>>>> F10 check your manual ) on most boards.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to boot to
>>>>> XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.
>>>>>
>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive to
>>>>> create a start menu.
>>>>>
>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Hey gang,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista
>>>>>> Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was a dual boot
>>>>>> environment.
>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to boot to,
>>>>>> it only boots into Vista.
>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on the other
>>>>>> hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it shows as drive E?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing here,
>>>>>> but apparently I did something I should not have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main OS and I
>>>>>> desperately need to be able to get back to it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
 
Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

Yes, but I have already installed Vista.

I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new hard drive,
formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.

I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing " Older
Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.
It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my bios boot
menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based on what I had
read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu option to boot into
either OS, and was surprised I did not.

When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which is
fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C" partition.

I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore points,
just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to show or just be
happy leaving it as it is .




--
Don


"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...
> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will have a
> boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and "Microsoft
> Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and simply select your
> desired partition for installation your disk drive lettering will align
> between the two systems. If you set the XP drive as the boot drive and
> then boot the system with the Vista dvd you will get variation of the
> drive lettering (no real problem) and will have the boot menu after you
> install Vista on the second drive or partition.
>
> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect the Vista
> volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any special techniques
> when installing Vista to have a safe system.
>
> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and see if I
>> can understand what I need to do.
>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive, it
>> would automatically give me that option during boot, but it didn't.
>>
>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.
>>
>> --
>> Don
>>
>>
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...
>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment allows you
>>> to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup without risking anything
>>> in Vista when you boot XP. It is the resolution for that issue. Use it
>>> and you will not have to use the escape key or special boot managers or
>>> anything else other than the traditional boot menu Windows sets up for
>>> you when you install a second OS on a computer.
>>>
>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to do, to
>>>> keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do have Vista
>>>> Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker feature as well.
>>>>
>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify where I
>>>> am with that and what it is doing.
>>>>
>>>> I have three sata hard drives.
>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)
>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)
>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)
>>>>
>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive 1
>>>> first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it is still
>>>> going to be my main OS for a while.
>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot menu,
>>>> then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3, then it will go
>>>> ahead and boot into Vista.
>>>>
>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I find
>>>> myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into rather than
>>>> going through the above steps.
>>>>
>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but for
>>>> some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not
>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.
>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not necessary to
>>>>> go through what you are doing. Microsoft's recommended procedure
>>>>> makes that unneccessary.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Hey Lance,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I will
>>>>>> always have to go in and select which drive to boot from correct,
>>>>>> rather than having it give me the option of which OS to boot to
>>>>>> during bootup?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is working
>>>>>> great as is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is
>>>>>>> individual.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's
>>>>>>> Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have fun.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all
>>>>>>>> parition letters intact as they should be.
>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was intalled
>>>>>>>> on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.
>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the hard
>>>>>>>> disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many thanks!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an option
>>>>>>>> between Vista and XP upon booting?
>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it like it
>>>>>>>> is if I need to.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged when
>>>>>>>> installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new drive.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it
>>>>>>>>> usually means that the Vista installation did not see your XP
>>>>>>>>> drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should be
>>>>>>>>> able to boot from bios to the drive you want.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if you
>>>>>>>>> don't touch anything XP will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from
>>>>>>>>> (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to boot
>>>>>>>>> to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive to
>>>>>>>>> create a start menu.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista
>>>>>>>>>> Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was a dual boot
>>>>>>>>>> environment.
>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to boot
>>>>>>>>>> to, it only boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on the
>>>>>>>>>> other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it shows as
>>>>>>>>>> drive E?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing
>>>>>>>>>> here, but apparently I did something I should not have.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main OS
>>>>>>>>>> and I desperately need to be able to get back to it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>
 
Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

Thanks Lance, I will have to re-check, but I think even without the boot
menu, doing it as I am in the bios, I still am losing Vista restore points,
I will go check this and advise.

--
Don




"Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
news:ujbA%23vxdIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> No you won't Don. If the first drive is XP in the bios, by default it will
> boot into XP without requests. If you want Vista then you must use the
> boot menu.
>
> Vista bootmngr when used with XP can be a real hassle. Because if you
> decide to get rid of Vista Xp will not boot anymore if Vista was using
> botmngr for both drives.
>
> Having 2 different O/S boot on two different drives with bios boot,
> eliminates Bootmngr and loosing system restore options without having to
> hack the registry.
> --
> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
> www.zardoc.com
> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>
>
>
> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hey Lance,
>>
>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I will
>> always have to go in and select which drive to boot from correct, rather
>> than having it give me the option of which OS to boot to during bootup?
>>
>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is working great
>> as is.
>>
>> Many thanks again,
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is individual.
>>>
>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.
>>>
>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's Vista.
>>> It's running nice and smooth with SP1.
>>>
>>> Have fun.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>> www.zardoc.com
>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>
>>>
>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all parition
>>>> letters intact as they should be.
>>>> Many thanks Lance!!
>>>>
>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was intalled on
>>>> as the first, and it booted right up into XP.
>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the hard disk
>>>> that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.
>>>>
>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many thanks!!
>>>>
>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an option
>>>> between Vista and XP upon booting?
>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it like it is
>>>> if I need to.
>>>>
>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged when
>>>> installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new drive.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> You made a good choice.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it usually
>>>>> means that the Vista installation did not see your XP drive (was it
>>>>> unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should be able to boot from
>>>>> bios to the drive you want.
>>>>>
>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if you don't
>>>>> touch anything XP will boot first.
>>>>>
>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from (usually
>>>>> F10 check your manual ) on most boards.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to boot to
>>>>> XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.
>>>>>
>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive to
>>>>> create a start menu.
>>>>>
>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Hey gang,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista
>>>>>> Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was a dual boot
>>>>>> environment.
>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to boot to,
>>>>>> it only boots into Vista.
>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on the other
>>>>>> hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it shows as drive E?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing here,
>>>>>> but apparently I did something I should not have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main OS and I
>>>>>> desperately need to be able to get back to it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
 
Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

Ok, I am in Vista now, and have just checked.
As I suspected, no I do not have any restore points. Whenever I boot into
XP, and come back into Vista, even though I am using the bios to boot from
the drive Vista is on, it still apparently deletes Vista's restore points.



--
Don



"Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e9J7HezdIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Thanks Lance, I will have to re-check, but I think even without the boot
> menu, doing it as I am in the bios, I still am losing Vista restore
> points, I will go check this and advise.
>
> --
> Don
>
>
>
>
> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
> news:ujbA%23vxdIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> No you won't Don. If the first drive is XP in the bios, by default it
>> will boot into XP without requests. If you want Vista then you must use
>> the boot menu.
>>
>> Vista bootmngr when used with XP can be a real hassle. Because if you
>> decide to get rid of Vista Xp will not boot anymore if Vista was using
>> botmngr for both drives.
>>
>> Having 2 different O/S boot on two different drives with bios boot,
>> eliminates Bootmngr and loosing system restore options without having to
>> hack the registry.
>> --
>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>> www.zardoc.com
>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>
>>
>>
>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Hey Lance,
>>>
>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I will
>>> always have to go in and select which drive to boot from correct, rather
>>> than having it give me the option of which OS to boot to during bootup?
>>>
>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is working
>>> great as is.
>>>
>>> Many thanks again,
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is individual.
>>>>
>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.
>>>>
>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's Vista.
>>>> It's running nice and smooth with SP1.
>>>>
>>>> Have fun.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all
>>>>> parition letters intact as they should be.
>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!
>>>>>
>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was intalled on
>>>>> as the first, and it booted right up into XP.
>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the hard disk
>>>>> that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many thanks!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an option
>>>>> between Vista and XP upon booting?
>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it like it is
>>>>> if I need to.
>>>>>
>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged when
>>>>> installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>
>>>>> Don
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> You made a good choice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it usually
>>>>>> means that the Vista installation did not see your XP drive (was it
>>>>>> unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should be able to boot from
>>>>>> bios to the drive you want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if you don't
>>>>>> touch anything XP will boot first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from (usually
>>>>>> F10 check your manual ) on most boards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to boot to
>>>>>> XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive to
>>>>>> create a start menu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Hey gang,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista
>>>>>>> Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was a dual boot
>>>>>>> environment.
>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to boot
>>>>>>> to, it only boots into Vista.
>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on the other
>>>>>>> hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it shows as drive E?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing here,
>>>>>>> but apparently I did something I should not have.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main OS and I
>>>>>>> desperately need to be able to get back to it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>
 
Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and then
you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and uses a GUI.

"Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.
>
> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new hard
> drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.
>
> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing " Older
> Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.
> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my bios
> boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based on what I
> had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu option to boot
> into either OS, and was surprised I did not.
>
> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which is
> fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C" partition.
>
> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore points,
> just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to show or just be
> happy leaving it as it is .
>
>
>
>
> --
> Don
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...
>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will have a
>> boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and "Microsoft
>> Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and simply select your
>> desired partition for installation your disk drive lettering will align
>> between the two systems. If you set the XP drive as the boot drive and
>> then boot the system with the Vista dvd you will get variation of the
>> drive lettering (no real problem) and will have the boot menu after you
>> install Vista on the second drive or partition.
>>
>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect the
>> Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any special
>> techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.
>>
>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and see if I
>>> can understand what I need to do.
>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive, it
>>> would automatically give me that option during boot, but it didn't.
>>>
>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...
>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment allows you
>>>> to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup without risking
>>>> anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the resolution for that
>>>> issue. Use it and you will not have to use the escape key or special
>>>> boot managers or anything else other than the traditional boot menu
>>>> Windows sets up for you when you install a second OS on a computer.
>>>>
>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to do, to
>>>>> keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do have Vista
>>>>> Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker feature as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify where I
>>>>> am with that and what it is doing.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.
>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)
>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)
>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive 1
>>>>> first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it is still
>>>>> going to be my main OS for a while.
>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot menu,
>>>>> then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3, then it will
>>>>> go ahead and boot into Vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I find
>>>>> myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into rather than
>>>>> going through the above steps.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but for
>>>>> some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not
>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.
>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Don
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not necessary to
>>>>>> go through what you are doing. Microsoft's recommended procedure
>>>>>> makes that unneccessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Hey Lance,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I will
>>>>>>> always have to go in and select which drive to boot from correct,
>>>>>>> rather than having it give me the option of which OS to boot to
>>>>>>> during bootup?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is working
>>>>>>> great as is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is
>>>>>>>> individual.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's
>>>>>>>> Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have fun.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all
>>>>>>>>> parition letters intact as they should be.
>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was intalled
>>>>>>>>> on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.
>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the hard
>>>>>>>>> disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many thanks!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an option
>>>>>>>>> between Vista and XP upon booting?
>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it like
>>>>>>>>> it is if I need to.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged when
>>>>>>>>> installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new drive.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it
>>>>>>>>>> usually means that the Vista installation did not see your XP
>>>>>>>>>> drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should be
>>>>>>>>>> able to boot from bios to the drive you want.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if you
>>>>>>>>>> don't touch anything XP will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from
>>>>>>>>>> (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to boot
>>>>>>>>>> to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive to
>>>>>>>>>> create a start menu.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista
>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was a dual
>>>>>>>>>>> boot environment.
>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to
>>>>>>>>>>> boot to, it only boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on the
>>>>>>>>>>> other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it shows
>>>>>>>>>>> as drive E?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing
>>>>>>>>>>> here, but apparently I did something I should not have.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main OS
>>>>>>>>>>> and I desperately need to be able to get back to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>
>
 
Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

You would continue you to lose VSS files if for some reason the Vista volume
is visible to XP when XP boots up. If you can see the Vista drive in XP's
My Computer then Vista is obviously not hidden.

"Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e9J7HezdIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Thanks Lance, I will have to re-check, but I think even without the boot
> menu, doing it as I am in the bios, I still am losing Vista restore
> points, I will go check this and advise.
>
> --
> Don
>
>
>
>
> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
> news:ujbA%23vxdIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> No you won't Don. If the first drive is XP in the bios, by default it
>> will boot into XP without requests. If you want Vista then you must use
>> the boot menu.
>>
>> Vista bootmngr when used with XP can be a real hassle. Because if you
>> decide to get rid of Vista Xp will not boot anymore if Vista was using
>> botmngr for both drives.
>>
>> Having 2 different O/S boot on two different drives with bios boot,
>> eliminates Bootmngr and loosing system restore options without having to
>> hack the registry.
>> --
>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>> www.zardoc.com
>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>
>>
>>
>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Hey Lance,
>>>
>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I will
>>> always have to go in and select which drive to boot from correct, rather
>>> than having it give me the option of which OS to boot to during bootup?
>>>
>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is working
>>> great as is.
>>>
>>> Many thanks again,
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is individual.
>>>>
>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.
>>>>
>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's Vista.
>>>> It's running nice and smooth with SP1.
>>>>
>>>> Have fun.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all
>>>>> parition letters intact as they should be.
>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!
>>>>>
>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was intalled on
>>>>> as the first, and it booted right up into XP.
>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the hard disk
>>>>> that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many thanks!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an option
>>>>> between Vista and XP upon booting?
>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it like it is
>>>>> if I need to.
>>>>>
>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged when
>>>>> installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>
>>>>> Don
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> You made a good choice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it usually
>>>>>> means that the Vista installation did not see your XP drive (was it
>>>>>> unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should be able to boot from
>>>>>> bios to the drive you want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if you don't
>>>>>> touch anything XP will boot first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from (usually
>>>>>> F10 check your manual ) on most boards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to boot to
>>>>>> XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive to
>>>>>> create a start menu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Hey gang,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista
>>>>>>> Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was a dual boot
>>>>>>> environment.
>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to boot
>>>>>>> to, it only boots into Vista.
>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on the other
>>>>>>> hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it shows as drive E?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing here,
>>>>>>> but apparently I did something I should not have.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main OS and I
>>>>>>> desperately need to be able to get back to it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>
 
Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was doing
something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was supposed to
do, never could get it to do it.

Thanks,



--
Don

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...
> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and then
> you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and uses a
> GUI.
>
> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.
>>
>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new hard
>> drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.
>>
>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "
>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.
>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my bios
>> boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based on what I
>> had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu option to boot
>> into either OS, and was surprised I did not.
>>
>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which is
>> fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C" partition.
>>
>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore points,
>> just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to show or just be
>> happy leaving it as it is .
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Don
>>
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...
>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will have a
>>> boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and "Microsoft
>>> Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and simply select
>>> your desired partition for installation your disk drive lettering will
>>> align between the two systems. If you set the XP drive as the boot
>>> drive and then boot the system with the Vista dvd you will get variation
>>> of the drive lettering (no real problem) and will have the boot menu
>>> after you install Vista on the second drive or partition.
>>>
>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect the
>>> Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any special
>>> techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.
>>>
>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and see if
>>>> I can understand what I need to do.
>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive, it
>>>> would automatically give me that option during boot, but it didn't.
>>>>
>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...
>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment allows
>>>>> you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup without risking
>>>>> anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the resolution for that
>>>>> issue. Use it and you will not have to use the escape key or special
>>>>> boot managers or anything else other than the traditional boot menu
>>>>> Windows sets up for you when you install a second OS on a computer.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to do,
>>>>>> to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do have Vista
>>>>>> Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker feature as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify where I
>>>>>> am with that and what it is doing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.
>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)
>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive 1
>>>>>> first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it is
>>>>>> still going to be my main OS for a while.
>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot menu,
>>>>>> then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3, then it will
>>>>>> go ahead and boot into Vista.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I find
>>>>>> myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into rather than
>>>>>> going through the above steps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but for
>>>>>> some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not
>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.
>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not necessary to
>>>>>>> go through what you are doing. Microsoft's recommended procedure
>>>>>>> makes that unneccessary.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I
>>>>>>>> will always have to go in and select which drive to boot from
>>>>>>>> correct, rather than having it give me the option of which OS to
>>>>>>>> boot to during bootup?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is working
>>>>>>>> great as is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is
>>>>>>>>> individual.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's
>>>>>>>>> Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Have fun.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all
>>>>>>>>>> parition letters intact as they should be.
>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was
>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.
>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the hard
>>>>>>>>>> disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many thanks!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an option
>>>>>>>>>> between Vista and XP upon booting?
>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it like
>>>>>>>>>> it is if I need to.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged when
>>>>>>>>>> installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new drive.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it
>>>>>>>>>>> usually means that the Vista installation did not see your XP
>>>>>>>>>>> drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should be
>>>>>>>>>>> able to boot from bios to the drive you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if you
>>>>>>>>>>> don't touch anything XP will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from
>>>>>>>>>>> (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to boot
>>>>>>>>>>> to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive to
>>>>>>>>>>> create a start menu.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was a dual
>>>>>>>>>>>> boot environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to
>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to, it only boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on the
>>>>>>>>>>>> other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it shows
>>>>>>>>>>>> as drive E?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing
>>>>>>>>>>>> here, but apparently I did something I should not have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main OS
>>>>>>>>>>>> and I desperately need to be able to get back to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
 
Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

Just installed Vista Boot Pro.
When I launch it , the first thing I get is a warning message as follows:
" VistaBootPro has detected that Vista is either not installed or is
installed on a hidden drive. You may experience minor problems using
VistaBootPro and/or making changes to your BCD registry".
It then takes me to the backup registry options menu.

Think it is safe to go ahead and try to use this ?

Thanks for your help on this.



--
Don



"Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was
> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was
> supposed to do, never could get it to do it.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> --
> Don
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...
>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and then
>> you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and uses a
>> GUI.
>>
>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.
>>>
>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new hard
>>> drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.
>>>
>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "
>>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.
>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my bios
>>> boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based on what
>>> I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu option to
>>> boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.
>>>
>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which is
>>> fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C" partition.
>>>
>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore
>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to show or
>>> just be happy leaving it as it is .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...
>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will have
>>>> a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and "Microsoft
>>>> Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and simply select
>>>> your desired partition for installation your disk drive lettering will
>>>> align between the two systems. If you set the XP drive as the boot
>>>> drive and then boot the system with the Vista dvd you will get
>>>> variation of the drive lettering (no real problem) and will have the
>>>> boot menu after you install Vista on the second drive or partition.
>>>>
>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect the
>>>> Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any special
>>>> techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.
>>>>
>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and see if
>>>>> I can understand what I need to do.
>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive, it
>>>>> would automatically give me that option during boot, but it didn't.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Don
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment allows
>>>>>> you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup without risking
>>>>>> anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the resolution for that
>>>>>> issue. Use it and you will not have to use the escape key or special
>>>>>> boot managers or anything else other than the traditional boot menu
>>>>>> Windows sets up for you when you install a second OS on a computer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to do,
>>>>>>> to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do have
>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker feature as
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify where
>>>>>>> I am with that and what it is doing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.
>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)
>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive 1
>>>>>>> first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it is
>>>>>>> still going to be my main OS for a while.
>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot
>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3, then
>>>>>>> it will go ahead and boot into Vista.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I
>>>>>>> find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into rather
>>>>>>> than going through the above steps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but for
>>>>>>> some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not
>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.
>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not necessary
>>>>>>>> to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's recommended
>>>>>>>> procedure makes that unneccessary.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I
>>>>>>>>> will always have to go in and select which drive to boot from
>>>>>>>>> correct, rather than having it give me the option of which OS to
>>>>>>>>> boot to during bootup?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is
>>>>>>>>> working great as is.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is
>>>>>>>>>> individual.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's
>>>>>>>>>> Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all
>>>>>>>>>>> parition letters intact as they should be.
>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was
>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.
>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the hard
>>>>>>>>>>> disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an option
>>>>>>>>>>> between Vista and XP upon booting?
>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it like
>>>>>>>>>>> it is if I need to.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged
>>>>>>>>>>> when installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new
>>>>>>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it
>>>>>>>>>>>> usually means that the Vista installation did not see your XP
>>>>>>>>>>>> drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should be
>>>>>>>>>>>> able to boot from bios to the drive you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if you
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't touch anything XP will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from
>>>>>>>>>>>> (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to
>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive
>>>>>>>>>>>> to create a start menu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was a dual
>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to, it only boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it shows
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as drive E?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> here, but apparently I did something I should not have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main OS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I desperately need to be able to get back to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
 
Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

The BCD will get written to the system drive when executed from either
system. If you want the BCD relocated you will have to make the drive first
in boot priority and the partition you want an active primary partition on
the drive.

"Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was
> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was
> supposed to do, never could get it to do it.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> --
> Don
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...
>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and then
>> you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and uses a
>> GUI.
>>
>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.
>>>
>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new hard
>>> drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.
>>>
>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "
>>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.
>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my bios
>>> boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based on what
>>> I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu option to
>>> boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.
>>>
>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which is
>>> fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C" partition.
>>>
>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore
>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to show or
>>> just be happy leaving it as it is .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...
>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will have
>>>> a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and "Microsoft
>>>> Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and simply select
>>>> your desired partition for installation your disk drive lettering will
>>>> align between the two systems. If you set the XP drive as the boot
>>>> drive and then boot the system with the Vista dvd you will get
>>>> variation of the drive lettering (no real problem) and will have the
>>>> boot menu after you install Vista on the second drive or partition.
>>>>
>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect the
>>>> Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any special
>>>> techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.
>>>>
>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and see if
>>>>> I can understand what I need to do.
>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive, it
>>>>> would automatically give me that option during boot, but it didn't.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Don
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment allows
>>>>>> you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup without risking
>>>>>> anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the resolution for that
>>>>>> issue. Use it and you will not have to use the escape key or special
>>>>>> boot managers or anything else other than the traditional boot menu
>>>>>> Windows sets up for you when you install a second OS on a computer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to do,
>>>>>>> to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do have
>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker feature as
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify where
>>>>>>> I am with that and what it is doing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.
>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)
>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive 1
>>>>>>> first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it is
>>>>>>> still going to be my main OS for a while.
>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot
>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3, then
>>>>>>> it will go ahead and boot into Vista.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I
>>>>>>> find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into rather
>>>>>>> than going through the above steps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but for
>>>>>>> some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not
>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.
>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not necessary
>>>>>>>> to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's recommended
>>>>>>>> procedure makes that unneccessary.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I
>>>>>>>>> will always have to go in and select which drive to boot from
>>>>>>>>> correct, rather than having it give me the option of which OS to
>>>>>>>>> boot to during bootup?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is
>>>>>>>>> working great as is.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is
>>>>>>>>>> individual.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's
>>>>>>>>>> Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all
>>>>>>>>>>> parition letters intact as they should be.
>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was
>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.
>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the hard
>>>>>>>>>>> disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an option
>>>>>>>>>>> between Vista and XP upon booting?
>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it like
>>>>>>>>>>> it is if I need to.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged
>>>>>>>>>>> when installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new
>>>>>>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it
>>>>>>>>>>>> usually means that the Vista installation did not see your XP
>>>>>>>>>>>> drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should be
>>>>>>>>>>>> able to boot from bios to the drive you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if you
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't touch anything XP will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from
>>>>>>>>>>>> (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to
>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive
>>>>>>>>>>>> to create a start menu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was a dual
>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to, it only boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it shows
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as drive E?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> here, but apparently I did something I should not have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main OS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I desperately need to be able to get back to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
 
Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader and All
Drives.

"Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was
> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was
> supposed to do, never could get it to do it.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> --
> Don
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...
>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and then
>> you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and uses a
>> GUI.
>>
>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.
>>>
>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new hard
>>> drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.
>>>
>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "
>>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.
>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my bios
>>> boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based on what
>>> I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu option to
>>> boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.
>>>
>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which is
>>> fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C" partition.
>>>
>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore
>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to show or
>>> just be happy leaving it as it is .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...
>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will have
>>>> a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and "Microsoft
>>>> Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and simply select
>>>> your desired partition for installation your disk drive lettering will
>>>> align between the two systems. If you set the XP drive as the boot
>>>> drive and then boot the system with the Vista dvd you will get
>>>> variation of the drive lettering (no real problem) and will have the
>>>> boot menu after you install Vista on the second drive or partition.
>>>>
>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect the
>>>> Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any special
>>>> techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.
>>>>
>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and see if
>>>>> I can understand what I need to do.
>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive, it
>>>>> would automatically give me that option during boot, but it didn't.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Don
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment allows
>>>>>> you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup without risking
>>>>>> anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the resolution for that
>>>>>> issue. Use it and you will not have to use the escape key or special
>>>>>> boot managers or anything else other than the traditional boot menu
>>>>>> Windows sets up for you when you install a second OS on a computer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to do,
>>>>>>> to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do have
>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker feature as
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify where
>>>>>>> I am with that and what it is doing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.
>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)
>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive 1
>>>>>>> first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it is
>>>>>>> still going to be my main OS for a while.
>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot
>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3, then
>>>>>>> it will go ahead and boot into Vista.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I
>>>>>>> find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into rather
>>>>>>> than going through the above steps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but for
>>>>>>> some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not
>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.
>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not necessary
>>>>>>>> to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's recommended
>>>>>>>> procedure makes that unneccessary.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I
>>>>>>>>> will always have to go in and select which drive to boot from
>>>>>>>>> correct, rather than having it give me the option of which OS to
>>>>>>>>> boot to during bootup?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is
>>>>>>>>> working great as is.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is
>>>>>>>>>> individual.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's
>>>>>>>>>> Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all
>>>>>>>>>>> parition letters intact as they should be.
>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was
>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.
>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the hard
>>>>>>>>>>> disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an option
>>>>>>>>>>> between Vista and XP upon booting?
>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it like
>>>>>>>>>>> it is if I need to.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged
>>>>>>>>>>> when installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new
>>>>>>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it
>>>>>>>>>>>> usually means that the Vista installation did not see your XP
>>>>>>>>>>>> drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should be
>>>>>>>>>>>> able to boot from bios to the drive you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if you
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't touch anything XP will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from
>>>>>>>>>>>> (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to
>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive
>>>>>>>>>>>> to create a start menu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was a dual
>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to, it only boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it shows
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as drive E?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> here, but apparently I did something I should not have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main OS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I desperately need to be able to get back to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
 
Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

Augh, I confuse too easily! :)

Ok, so if I am booting primarily from the drive my XP resides on, then I
will want to install the VistaBootPro program, onto XP and run it from
there, instead of installing and running from Vista, is that correct?



--
Don



"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
news:umljIvzdIHA.4844@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> The BCD will get written to the system drive when executed from either
> system. If you want the BCD relocated you will have to make the drive
> first in boot priority and the partition you want an active primary
> partition on the drive.
>
> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was
>> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was
>> supposed to do, never could get it to do it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Don
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...
>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and
>>> then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and
>>> uses a GUI.
>>>
>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.
>>>>
>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new hard
>>>> drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.
>>>>
>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "
>>>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.
>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my bios
>>>> boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based on what
>>>> I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu option to
>>>> boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.
>>>>
>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which is
>>>> fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C" partition.
>>>>
>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore
>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to show
>>>> or just be happy leaving it as it is .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will have
>>>>> a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and "Microsoft
>>>>> Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and simply select
>>>>> your desired partition for installation your disk drive lettering will
>>>>> align between the two systems. If you set the XP drive as the boot
>>>>> drive and then boot the system with the Vista dvd you will get
>>>>> variation of the drive lettering (no real problem) and will have the
>>>>> boot menu after you install Vista on the second drive or partition.
>>>>>
>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect the
>>>>> Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any special
>>>>> techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and see
>>>>>> if I can understand what I need to do.
>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive, it
>>>>>> would automatically give me that option during boot, but it didn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment allows
>>>>>>> you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup without risking
>>>>>>> anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the resolution for that
>>>>>>> issue. Use it and you will not have to use the escape key or
>>>>>>> special boot managers or anything else other than the traditional
>>>>>>> boot menu Windows sets up for you when you install a second OS on a
>>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to do,
>>>>>>>> to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do have
>>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker feature as
>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify where
>>>>>>>> I am with that and what it is doing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.
>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)
>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive 1
>>>>>>>> first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it is
>>>>>>>> still going to be my main OS for a while.
>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot
>>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3, then
>>>>>>>> it will go ahead and boot into Vista.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I
>>>>>>>> find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into
>>>>>>>> rather than going through the above steps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but for
>>>>>>>> some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not
>>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.
>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be appreciated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not necessary
>>>>>>>>> to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's recommended
>>>>>>>>> procedure makes that unneccessary.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I
>>>>>>>>>> will always have to go in and select which drive to boot from
>>>>>>>>>> correct, rather than having it give me the option of which OS to
>>>>>>>>>> boot to during bootup?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is
>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is
>>>>>>>>>>> individual.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's
>>>>>>>>>>> Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all
>>>>>>>>>>>> parition letters intact as they should be.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was
>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the
>>>>>>>>>>>> hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many
>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an
>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it
>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is if I need to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged
>>>>>>>>>>>> when installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new
>>>>>>>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually means that the Vista installation did not see your XP
>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be able to boot from bios to the drive you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't touch anything XP will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to create a start menu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was a dual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to, it only boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows as drive E?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here, but apparently I did something I should not have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS and I desperately need to be able to get back to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>
 
Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

Ok, I will give that a try and advise.

Thanks,

--
Don



"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:9C9B785E-A60F-4C7B-BF19-B81C3F86062A@microsoft.com...
> Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader and
> All Drives.
>
> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was
>> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was
>> supposed to do, never could get it to do it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Don
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...
>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and
>>> then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and
>>> uses a GUI.
>>>
>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.
>>>>
>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new hard
>>>> drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.
>>>>
>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "
>>>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.
>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my bios
>>>> boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based on what
>>>> I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu option to
>>>> boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.
>>>>
>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which is
>>>> fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C" partition.
>>>>
>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore
>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to show
>>>> or just be happy leaving it as it is .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will have
>>>>> a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and "Microsoft
>>>>> Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and simply select
>>>>> your desired partition for installation your disk drive lettering will
>>>>> align between the two systems. If you set the XP drive as the boot
>>>>> drive and then boot the system with the Vista dvd you will get
>>>>> variation of the drive lettering (no real problem) and will have the
>>>>> boot menu after you install Vista on the second drive or partition.
>>>>>
>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect the
>>>>> Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any special
>>>>> techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and see
>>>>>> if I can understand what I need to do.
>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive, it
>>>>>> would automatically give me that option during boot, but it didn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment allows
>>>>>>> you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup without risking
>>>>>>> anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the resolution for that
>>>>>>> issue. Use it and you will not have to use the escape key or
>>>>>>> special boot managers or anything else other than the traditional
>>>>>>> boot menu Windows sets up for you when you install a second OS on a
>>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to do,
>>>>>>>> to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do have
>>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker feature as
>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify where
>>>>>>>> I am with that and what it is doing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.
>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)
>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive 1
>>>>>>>> first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it is
>>>>>>>> still going to be my main OS for a while.
>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot
>>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3, then
>>>>>>>> it will go ahead and boot into Vista.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I
>>>>>>>> find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into
>>>>>>>> rather than going through the above steps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but for
>>>>>>>> some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not
>>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.
>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be appreciated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not necessary
>>>>>>>>> to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's recommended
>>>>>>>>> procedure makes that unneccessary.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I
>>>>>>>>>> will always have to go in and select which drive to boot from
>>>>>>>>>> correct, rather than having it give me the option of which OS to
>>>>>>>>>> boot to during bootup?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is
>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is
>>>>>>>>>>> individual.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's
>>>>>>>>>>> Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all
>>>>>>>>>>>> parition letters intact as they should be.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was
>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the
>>>>>>>>>>>> hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many
>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an
>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it
>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is if I need to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged
>>>>>>>>>>>> when installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new
>>>>>>>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually means that the Vista installation did not see your XP
>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be able to boot from bios to the drive you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't touch anything XP will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to create a start menu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was a dual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to, it only boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows as drive E?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here, but apparently I did something I should not have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS and I desperately need to be able to get back to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>
 
Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

I tried that exactly as you suggested Colin, and it made no difference.
Still boots directly into XP, then I go into bios boot menu, choose the
third sata drive my Vista is on, then it boots directly into Vista.

Thanks for the help, probaby something small I am missing - I installed
VistaBootPro and run it from my Vista install, should I install it and run
it from the XP install instead?




--
Don



"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:9C9B785E-A60F-4C7B-BF19-B81C3F86062A@microsoft.com...
> Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader and
> All Drives.
>
> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was
>> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was
>> supposed to do, never could get it to do it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Don
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...
>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and
>>> then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and
>>> uses a GUI.
>>>
>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.
>>>>
>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new hard
>>>> drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.
>>>>
>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "
>>>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.
>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my bios
>>>> boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based on what
>>>> I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu option to
>>>> boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.
>>>>
>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which is
>>>> fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C" partition.
>>>>
>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore
>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to show
>>>> or just be happy leaving it as it is .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will have
>>>>> a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and "Microsoft
>>>>> Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and simply select
>>>>> your desired partition for installation your disk drive lettering will
>>>>> align between the two systems. If you set the XP drive as the boot
>>>>> drive and then boot the system with the Vista dvd you will get
>>>>> variation of the drive lettering (no real problem) and will have the
>>>>> boot menu after you install Vista on the second drive or partition.
>>>>>
>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect the
>>>>> Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any special
>>>>> techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and see
>>>>>> if I can understand what I need to do.
>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive, it
>>>>>> would automatically give me that option during boot, but it didn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment allows
>>>>>>> you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup without risking
>>>>>>> anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the resolution for that
>>>>>>> issue. Use it and you will not have to use the escape key or
>>>>>>> special boot managers or anything else other than the traditional
>>>>>>> boot menu Windows sets up for you when you install a second OS on a
>>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to do,
>>>>>>>> to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do have
>>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker feature as
>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify where
>>>>>>>> I am with that and what it is doing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.
>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)
>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive 1
>>>>>>>> first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it is
>>>>>>>> still going to be my main OS for a while.
>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot
>>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3, then
>>>>>>>> it will go ahead and boot into Vista.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I
>>>>>>>> find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into
>>>>>>>> rather than going through the above steps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but for
>>>>>>>> some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not
>>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.
>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be appreciated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not necessary
>>>>>>>>> to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's recommended
>>>>>>>>> procedure makes that unneccessary.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I
>>>>>>>>>> will always have to go in and select which drive to boot from
>>>>>>>>>> correct, rather than having it give me the option of which OS to
>>>>>>>>>> boot to during bootup?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is
>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is
>>>>>>>>>>> individual.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's
>>>>>>>>>>> Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all
>>>>>>>>>>>> parition letters intact as they should be.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was
>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the
>>>>>>>>>>>> hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many
>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an
>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it
>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is if I need to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged
>>>>>>>>>>>> when installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new
>>>>>>>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually means that the Vista installation did not see your XP
>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be able to boot from bios to the drive you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't touch anything XP will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to create a start menu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was a dual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to, it only boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows as drive E?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here, but apparently I did something I should not have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS and I desperately need to be able to get back to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>
 
Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

Sure. Won't hurt.

The ideal thing would be to simply do a fresh install of Vista from the XP
desktop but I can understand that you might not want to do that.

In any case, even if you leave everything set up like it is, you should
still make the registry entry in XP. It doesn't matter how you installed
the operating systems, you would still hide Vista from XP the same way.

"Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:upXPZ%23zdIHA.5416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I tried that exactly as you suggested Colin, and it made no difference.
> Still boots directly into XP, then I go into bios boot menu, choose the
> third sata drive my Vista is on, then it boots directly into Vista.
>
> Thanks for the help, probaby something small I am missing - I installed
> VistaBootPro and run it from my Vista install, should I install it and run
> it from the XP install instead?
>
>
>
>
> --
> Don
>
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:9C9B785E-A60F-4C7B-BF19-B81C3F86062A@microsoft.com...
>> Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader and
>> All Drives.
>>
>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was
>>> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was
>>> supposed to do, never could get it to do it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Don
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...
>>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and
>>>> then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and
>>>> uses a GUI.
>>>>
>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new hard
>>>>> drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "
>>>>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.
>>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my
>>>>> bios boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based
>>>>> on what I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu
>>>>> option to boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which
>>>>> is fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C"
>>>>> partition.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore
>>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to show
>>>>> or just be happy leaving it as it is .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Don
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will
>>>>>> have a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and
>>>>>> "Microsoft Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and
>>>>>> simply select your desired partition for installation your disk drive
>>>>>> lettering will align between the two systems. If you set the XP
>>>>>> drive as the boot drive and then boot the system with the Vista dvd
>>>>>> you will get variation of the drive lettering (no real problem) and
>>>>>> will have the boot menu after you install Vista on the second drive
>>>>>> or partition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect the
>>>>>> Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any special
>>>>>> techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and see
>>>>>>> if I can understand what I need to do.
>>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive,
>>>>>>> it would automatically give me that option during boot, but it
>>>>>>> didn't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment allows
>>>>>>>> you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup without risking
>>>>>>>> anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the resolution for that
>>>>>>>> issue. Use it and you will not have to use the escape key or
>>>>>>>> special boot managers or anything else other than the traditional
>>>>>>>> boot menu Windows sets up for you when you install a second OS on a
>>>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to
>>>>>>>>> do, to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do
>>>>>>>>> have Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker
>>>>>>>>> feature as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify
>>>>>>>>> where I am with that and what it is doing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.
>>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)
>>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive 1
>>>>>>>>> first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it is
>>>>>>>>> still going to be my main OS for a while.
>>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot
>>>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3, then
>>>>>>>>> it will go ahead and boot into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I
>>>>>>>>> find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into
>>>>>>>>> rather than going through the above steps.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but
>>>>>>>>> for some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not
>>>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.
>>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not necessary
>>>>>>>>>> to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's recommended
>>>>>>>>>> procedure makes that unneccessary.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I
>>>>>>>>>>> will always have to go in and select which drive to boot from
>>>>>>>>>>> correct, rather than having it give me the option of which OS to
>>>>>>>>>>> boot to during bootup?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is
>>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is
>>>>>>>>>>>> individual.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's
>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> parition letters intact as they should be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is if I need to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new
>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually means that the Vista installation did not see your XP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be able to boot from bios to the drive you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't touch anything XP will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista drive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to create a start menu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit Vista
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was a dual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to, it only boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shows as drive E?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here, but apparently I did something I should not have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS and I desperately need to be able to get back to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>
 
Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

Dang, still did not work.

I installed VistaBootPro in Windows XP.

Installed Vista Bootloader using system bootloader tab, selected C drive,
which is what my XP is installed, and still just boots directly into XP, no
boot menu option to choose XP or Vista.

I just can't seem to get this to work properly in that way.



--
Don


"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:460A5EDB-BD0B-4B5A-B780-26831A825984@microsoft.com...
> Sure. Won't hurt.
>
> The ideal thing would be to simply do a fresh install of Vista from the XP
> desktop but I can understand that you might not want to do that.
>
> In any case, even if you leave everything set up like it is, you should
> still make the registry entry in XP. It doesn't matter how you installed
> the operating systems, you would still hide Vista from XP the same way.
>
> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:upXPZ%23zdIHA.5416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I tried that exactly as you suggested Colin, and it made no difference.
>> Still boots directly into XP, then I go into bios boot menu, choose the
>> third sata drive my Vista is on, then it boots directly into Vista.
>>
>> Thanks for the help, probaby something small I am missing - I installed
>> VistaBootPro and run it from my Vista install, should I install it and
>> run it from the XP install instead?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Don
>>
>>
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:9C9B785E-A60F-4C7B-BF19-B81C3F86062A@microsoft.com...
>>> Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader and
>>> All Drives.
>>>
>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was
>>>> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was
>>>> supposed to do, never could get it to do it.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...
>>>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and
>>>>> then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and
>>>>> uses a GUI.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new hard
>>>>>> drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "
>>>>>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.
>>>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my
>>>>>> bios boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based
>>>>>> on what I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu
>>>>>> option to boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which
>>>>>> is fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C"
>>>>>> partition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore
>>>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to show
>>>>>> or just be happy leaving it as it is .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will
>>>>>>> have a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and
>>>>>>> "Microsoft Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and
>>>>>>> simply select your desired partition for installation your disk
>>>>>>> drive lettering will align between the two systems. If you set the
>>>>>>> XP drive as the boot drive and then boot the system with the Vista
>>>>>>> dvd you will get variation of the drive lettering (no real problem)
>>>>>>> and will have the boot menu after you install Vista on the second
>>>>>>> drive or partition.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect the
>>>>>>> Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any special
>>>>>>> techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and see
>>>>>>>> if I can understand what I need to do.
>>>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive,
>>>>>>>> it would automatically give me that option during boot, but it
>>>>>>>> didn't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment
>>>>>>>>> allows you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup without
>>>>>>>>> risking anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the resolution
>>>>>>>>> for that issue. Use it and you will not have to use the escape
>>>>>>>>> key or special boot managers or anything else other than the
>>>>>>>>> traditional boot menu Windows sets up for you when you install a
>>>>>>>>> second OS on a computer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to
>>>>>>>>>> do, to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do
>>>>>>>>>> have Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker
>>>>>>>>>> feature as well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify
>>>>>>>>>> where I am with that and what it is doing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.
>>>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)
>>>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive
>>>>>>>>>> 1 first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it
>>>>>>>>>> is still going to be my main OS for a while.
>>>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot
>>>>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3, then
>>>>>>>>>> it will go ahead and boot into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I
>>>>>>>>>> find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into
>>>>>>>>>> rather than going through the above steps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but
>>>>>>>>>> for some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not
>>>>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.
>>>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not
>>>>>>>>>>> necessary to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's
>>>>>>>>>>> recommended procedure makes that unneccessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I
>>>>>>>>>>>> will always have to go in and select which drive to boot from
>>>>>>>>>>>> correct, rather than having it give me the option of which OS
>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to during bootup?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is
>>>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all parition letters intact as they should be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is if I need to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually means that the Vista installation did not see your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be able to boot from bios to the drive you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't touch anything XP will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive to create a start menu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a dual boot environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to, it only boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it shows as drive E?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing here, but apparently I did something I should not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS and I desperately need to be able to get back to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>
 
Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

Btw, when I launch VistaBootPro in windows XP, it first gives me a message
that the bcd entry is missing or corrupt, recommends I repair it first.



--
Don


"Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23XNYqU0dIHA.5560@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Dang, still did not work.
>
> I installed VistaBootPro in Windows XP.
>
> Installed Vista Bootloader using system bootloader tab, selected C drive,
> which is what my XP is installed, and still just boots directly into XP,
> no boot menu option to choose XP or Vista.
>
> I just can't seem to get this to work properly in that way.
>
>
>
> --
> Don
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:460A5EDB-BD0B-4B5A-B780-26831A825984@microsoft.com...
>> Sure. Won't hurt.
>>
>> The ideal thing would be to simply do a fresh install of Vista from the
>> XP desktop but I can understand that you might not want to do that.
>>
>> In any case, even if you leave everything set up like it is, you should
>> still make the registry entry in XP. It doesn't matter how you installed
>> the operating systems, you would still hide Vista from XP the same way.
>>
>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:upXPZ%23zdIHA.5416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>I tried that exactly as you suggested Colin, and it made no difference.
>>> Still boots directly into XP, then I go into bios boot menu, choose the
>>> third sata drive my Vista is on, then it boots directly into Vista.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help, probaby something small I am missing - I installed
>>> VistaBootPro and run it from my Vista install, should I install it and
>>> run it from the XP install instead?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:9C9B785E-A60F-4C7B-BF19-B81C3F86062A@microsoft.com...
>>>> Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader and
>>>> All Drives.
>>>>
>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was
>>>>> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was
>>>>> supposed to do, never could get it to do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Don
>>>>>
>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and
>>>>>> then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and
>>>>>> uses a GUI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new
>>>>>>> hard drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "
>>>>>>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.
>>>>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my
>>>>>>> bios boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based
>>>>>>> on what I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu
>>>>>>> option to boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which
>>>>>>> is fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C"
>>>>>>> partition.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore
>>>>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to
>>>>>>> show or just be happy leaving it as it is .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will
>>>>>>>> have a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and
>>>>>>>> "Microsoft Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and
>>>>>>>> simply select your desired partition for installation your disk
>>>>>>>> drive lettering will align between the two systems. If you set the
>>>>>>>> XP drive as the boot drive and then boot the system with the Vista
>>>>>>>> dvd you will get variation of the drive lettering (no real problem)
>>>>>>>> and will have the boot menu after you install Vista on the second
>>>>>>>> drive or partition.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect
>>>>>>>> the Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any
>>>>>>>> special techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and
>>>>>>>>> see if I can understand what I need to do.
>>>>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive,
>>>>>>>>> it would automatically give me that option during boot, but it
>>>>>>>>> didn't.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment
>>>>>>>>>> allows you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup
>>>>>>>>>> without risking anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the
>>>>>>>>>> resolution for that issue. Use it and you will not have to use
>>>>>>>>>> the escape key or special boot managers or anything else other
>>>>>>>>>> than the traditional boot menu Windows sets up for you when you
>>>>>>>>>> install a second OS on a computer.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to
>>>>>>>>>>> do, to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do
>>>>>>>>>>> have Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker
>>>>>>>>>>> feature as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify
>>>>>>>>>>> where I am with that and what it is doing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.
>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)
>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive
>>>>>>>>>>> 1 first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it
>>>>>>>>>>> is still going to be my main OS for a while.
>>>>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot
>>>>>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3,
>>>>>>>>>>> then it will go ahead and boot into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I
>>>>>>>>>>> find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into
>>>>>>>>>>> rather than going through the above steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but
>>>>>>>>>>> for some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not
>>>>>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.
>>>>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be
>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not
>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's
>>>>>>>>>>>> recommended procedure makes that unneccessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will always have to go in and select which drive to boot
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from correct, rather than having it give me the option of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which OS to boot to during bootup?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all parition letters intact as they should be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is if I need to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it usually means that the Vista installation did not see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your XP drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should be able to boot from bios to the drive you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't touch anything XP will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive to create a start menu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a dual boot environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to, it only boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it shows as drive E?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing here, but apparently I did something I should not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> main OS and I desperately need to be able to get back to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>
>
 
Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

If you reinstall Vista, try it from the XP desktop. Otherwise, just make
the registry change and go with what you have.

"Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23XNYqU0dIHA.5560@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Dang, still did not work.
>
> I installed VistaBootPro in Windows XP.
>
> Installed Vista Bootloader using system bootloader tab, selected C drive,
> which is what my XP is installed, and still just boots directly into XP,
> no boot menu option to choose XP or Vista.
>
> I just can't seem to get this to work properly in that way.
>
>
>
> --
> Don
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:460A5EDB-BD0B-4B5A-B780-26831A825984@microsoft.com...
>> Sure. Won't hurt.
>>
>> The ideal thing would be to simply do a fresh install of Vista from the
>> XP desktop but I can understand that you might not want to do that.
>>
>> In any case, even if you leave everything set up like it is, you should
>> still make the registry entry in XP. It doesn't matter how you installed
>> the operating systems, you would still hide Vista from XP the same way.
>>
>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:upXPZ%23zdIHA.5416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>I tried that exactly as you suggested Colin, and it made no difference.
>>> Still boots directly into XP, then I go into bios boot menu, choose the
>>> third sata drive my Vista is on, then it boots directly into Vista.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help, probaby something small I am missing - I installed
>>> VistaBootPro and run it from my Vista install, should I install it and
>>> run it from the XP install instead?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:9C9B785E-A60F-4C7B-BF19-B81C3F86062A@microsoft.com...
>>>> Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader and
>>>> All Drives.
>>>>
>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was
>>>>> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was
>>>>> supposed to do, never could get it to do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Don
>>>>>
>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and
>>>>>> then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and
>>>>>> uses a GUI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new
>>>>>>> hard drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "
>>>>>>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.
>>>>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my
>>>>>>> bios boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based
>>>>>>> on what I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu
>>>>>>> option to boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which
>>>>>>> is fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C"
>>>>>>> partition.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore
>>>>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to
>>>>>>> show or just be happy leaving it as it is .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will
>>>>>>>> have a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and
>>>>>>>> "Microsoft Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and
>>>>>>>> simply select your desired partition for installation your disk
>>>>>>>> drive lettering will align between the two systems. If you set the
>>>>>>>> XP drive as the boot drive and then boot the system with the Vista
>>>>>>>> dvd you will get variation of the drive lettering (no real problem)
>>>>>>>> and will have the boot menu after you install Vista on the second
>>>>>>>> drive or partition.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect
>>>>>>>> the Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any
>>>>>>>> special techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and
>>>>>>>>> see if I can understand what I need to do.
>>>>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive,
>>>>>>>>> it would automatically give me that option during boot, but it
>>>>>>>>> didn't.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment
>>>>>>>>>> allows you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup
>>>>>>>>>> without risking anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the
>>>>>>>>>> resolution for that issue. Use it and you will not have to use
>>>>>>>>>> the escape key or special boot managers or anything else other
>>>>>>>>>> than the traditional boot menu Windows sets up for you when you
>>>>>>>>>> install a second OS on a computer.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to
>>>>>>>>>>> do, to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do
>>>>>>>>>>> have Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker
>>>>>>>>>>> feature as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify
>>>>>>>>>>> where I am with that and what it is doing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.
>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)
>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive
>>>>>>>>>>> 1 first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it
>>>>>>>>>>> is still going to be my main OS for a while.
>>>>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot
>>>>>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3,
>>>>>>>>>>> then it will go ahead and boot into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I
>>>>>>>>>>> find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into
>>>>>>>>>>> rather than going through the above steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but
>>>>>>>>>>> for some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not
>>>>>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.
>>>>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be
>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not
>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's
>>>>>>>>>>>> recommended procedure makes that unneccessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will always have to go in and select which drive to boot
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from correct, rather than having it give me the option of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which OS to boot to during bootup?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all parition letters intact as they should be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is if I need to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it usually means that the Vista installation did not see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your XP drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should be able to boot from bios to the drive you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't touch anything XP will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive to create a start menu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a dual boot environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to, it only boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it shows as drive E?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing here, but apparently I did something I should not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> main OS and I desperately need to be able to get back to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>
>
 
Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

The ironic thing is, when I first opened up my Vista box, and inserted the
64 bit dvd into the drive, autoplay started it right up, and I got some
error message, don't remember the exact wording, to the effect that it could
not be run from the desktop, and instructed me to boot from the dvd to run
setup. I had planned on booting from the dvd anyways, so it was not a big
deal at the time. I have the full retail version of Vista Ultimate.

No, I seriously don't want go through and install Vista again. I will play
around with VistaBootPro a little more, then just give up if I don't get it
and continue as I am doing. Just hope I don't screw something up :).

Thanks for all the help,



--
Don


"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:01D6FC11-C120-44C8-874A-263D27950A19@microsoft.com...
> If you reinstall Vista, try it from the XP desktop. Otherwise, just make
> the registry change and go with what you have.
>
> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23XNYqU0dIHA.5560@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Dang, still did not work.
>>
>> I installed VistaBootPro in Windows XP.
>>
>> Installed Vista Bootloader using system bootloader tab, selected C
>> drive, which is what my XP is installed, and still just boots directly
>> into XP, no boot menu option to choose XP or Vista.
>>
>> I just can't seem to get this to work properly in that way.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Don
>>
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:460A5EDB-BD0B-4B5A-B780-26831A825984@microsoft.com...
>>> Sure. Won't hurt.
>>>
>>> The ideal thing would be to simply do a fresh install of Vista from the
>>> XP desktop but I can understand that you might not want to do that.
>>>
>>> In any case, even if you leave everything set up like it is, you should
>>> still make the registry entry in XP. It doesn't matter how you
>>> installed the operating systems, you would still hide Vista from XP the
>>> same way.
>>>
>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:upXPZ%23zdIHA.5416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>I tried that exactly as you suggested Colin, and it made no difference.
>>>> Still boots directly into XP, then I go into bios boot menu, choose the
>>>> third sata drive my Vista is on, then it boots directly into Vista.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the help, probaby something small I am missing - I installed
>>>> VistaBootPro and run it from my Vista install, should I install it and
>>>> run it from the XP install instead?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:9C9B785E-A60F-4C7B-BF19-B81C3F86062A@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader
>>>>> and All Drives.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was
>>>>>> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I
>>>>>> was supposed to do, never could get it to do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and
>>>>>>> then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free
>>>>>>> and uses a GUI.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new
>>>>>>>> hard drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing
>>>>>>>> " Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.
>>>>>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my
>>>>>>>> bios boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from.
>>>>>>>> Based on what I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot
>>>>>>>> menu option to boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition,
>>>>>>>> which is fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C"
>>>>>>>> partition.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore
>>>>>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to
>>>>>>>> show or just be happy leaving it as it is .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will
>>>>>>>>> have a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and
>>>>>>>>> "Microsoft Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and
>>>>>>>>> simply select your desired partition for installation your disk
>>>>>>>>> drive lettering will align between the two systems. If you set
>>>>>>>>> the XP drive as the boot drive and then boot the system with the
>>>>>>>>> Vista dvd you will get variation of the drive lettering (no real
>>>>>>>>> problem) and will have the boot menu after you install Vista on
>>>>>>>>> the second drive or partition.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect
>>>>>>>>> the Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any
>>>>>>>>> special techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and
>>>>>>>>>> see if I can understand what I need to do.
>>>>>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard
>>>>>>>>>> drive, it would automatically give me that option during boot,
>>>>>>>>>> but it didn't.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment
>>>>>>>>>>> allows you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup
>>>>>>>>>>> without risking anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the
>>>>>>>>>>> resolution for that issue. Use it and you will not have to use
>>>>>>>>>>> the escape key or special boot managers or anything else other
>>>>>>>>>>> than the traditional boot menu Windows sets up for you when you
>>>>>>>>>>> install a second OS on a computer.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to
>>>>>>>>>>>> do, to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do
>>>>>>>>>>>> have Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker
>>>>>>>>>>>> feature as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify
>>>>>>>>>>>> where I am with that and what it is doing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for
>>>>>>>>>>>> drive 1 first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine
>>>>>>>>>>>> as it is still going to be my main OS for a while.
>>>>>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot
>>>>>>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3,
>>>>>>>>>>>> then it will go ahead and boot into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into
>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than going through the above steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but
>>>>>>>>>>>> for some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not
>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be
>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> recommended procedure makes that unneccessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will always have to go in and select which drive to boot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from correct, rather than having it give me the option of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which OS to boot to during bootup?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all parition letters intact as they should be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is if I need to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unplugged when installing the Vista Ultimate full version
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the new drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it usually means that the Vista installation did not see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your XP drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should be able to boot from bios to the drive you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you don't touch anything XP will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive to create a start menu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a dual boot environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to, it only boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it shows as drive E?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing here, but apparently I did something I should not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> main OS and I desperately need to be able to get back to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
 
Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

If you run VBP from the XP partition the way you have changed boot priority
'on the fly', you will overwrite the XP boot process. You would be able to
reverse it later, if you actually can get back into VBP on that drive. Have
you copied the files I recommended earlier?

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:460A5EDB-BD0B-4B5A-B780-26831A825984@microsoft.com...
> Sure. Won't hurt.
>
> The ideal thing would be to simply do a fresh install of Vista from the XP
> desktop but I can understand that you might not want to do that.
>
> In any case, even if you leave everything set up like it is, you should
> still make the registry entry in XP. It doesn't matter how you installed
> the operating systems, you would still hide Vista from XP the same way.
>
> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:upXPZ%23zdIHA.5416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I tried that exactly as you suggested Colin, and it made no difference.
>> Still boots directly into XP, then I go into bios boot menu, choose the
>> third sata drive my Vista is on, then it boots directly into Vista.
>>
>> Thanks for the help, probaby something small I am missing - I installed
>> VistaBootPro and run it from my Vista install, should I install it and
>> run it from the XP install instead?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Don
>>
>>
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:9C9B785E-A60F-4C7B-BF19-B81C3F86062A@microsoft.com...
>>> Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader and
>>> All Drives.
>>>
>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was
>>>> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was
>>>> supposed to do, never could get it to do it.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...
>>>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and
>>>>> then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and
>>>>> uses a GUI.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new hard
>>>>>> drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "
>>>>>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.
>>>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my
>>>>>> bios boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based
>>>>>> on what I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu
>>>>>> option to boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which
>>>>>> is fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C"
>>>>>> partition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore
>>>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to show
>>>>>> or just be happy leaving it as it is .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will
>>>>>>> have a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and
>>>>>>> "Microsoft Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and
>>>>>>> simply select your desired partition for installation your disk
>>>>>>> drive lettering will align between the two systems. If you set the
>>>>>>> XP drive as the boot drive and then boot the system with the Vista
>>>>>>> dvd you will get variation of the drive lettering (no real problem)
>>>>>>> and will have the boot menu after you install Vista on the second
>>>>>>> drive or partition.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect the
>>>>>>> Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any special
>>>>>>> techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and see
>>>>>>>> if I can understand what I need to do.
>>>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive,
>>>>>>>> it would automatically give me that option during boot, but it
>>>>>>>> didn't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment
>>>>>>>>> allows you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup without
>>>>>>>>> risking anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the resolution
>>>>>>>>> for that issue. Use it and you will not have to use the escape
>>>>>>>>> key or special boot managers or anything else other than the
>>>>>>>>> traditional boot menu Windows sets up for you when you install a
>>>>>>>>> second OS on a computer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to
>>>>>>>>>> do, to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do
>>>>>>>>>> have Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker
>>>>>>>>>> feature as well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify
>>>>>>>>>> where I am with that and what it is doing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.
>>>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)
>>>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive
>>>>>>>>>> 1 first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it
>>>>>>>>>> is still going to be my main OS for a while.
>>>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot
>>>>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3, then
>>>>>>>>>> it will go ahead and boot into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I
>>>>>>>>>> find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into
>>>>>>>>>> rather than going through the above steps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but
>>>>>>>>>> for some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not
>>>>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.
>>>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not
>>>>>>>>>>> necessary to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's
>>>>>>>>>>> recommended procedure makes that unneccessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now, I
>>>>>>>>>>>> will always have to go in and select which drive to boot from
>>>>>>>>>>>> correct, rather than having it give me the option of which OS
>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to during bootup?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is
>>>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all parition letters intact as they should be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is if I need to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually means that the Vista installation did not see your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine. You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be able to boot from bios to the drive you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't touch anything XP will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive to create a start menu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a dual boot environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to, it only boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it shows as drive E?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing here, but apparently I did something I should not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my main
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS and I desperately need to be able to get back to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>
 
Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!

Not yet, I don't think I quite understood exactly how to do it, I will
re-read again and see what I can do.

I now have managed to get the choice to load either Vista or XP, but only
after hitting escape to enter my bios menu and choosing the Vista hard drive
to boot from, can't seem to get it to do it from my first hard drive, the
one XP is installed on.

I reckon I better quit messing with VBP while I am ahead before I screw
something up...



--
Don


"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
news:OhtPlh0dIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> If you run VBP from the XP partition the way you have changed boot
> priority 'on the fly', you will overwrite the XP boot process. You would
> be able to reverse it later, if you actually can get back into VBP on that
> drive. Have you copied the files I recommended earlier?
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:460A5EDB-BD0B-4B5A-B780-26831A825984@microsoft.com...
>> Sure. Won't hurt.
>>
>> The ideal thing would be to simply do a fresh install of Vista from the
>> XP desktop but I can understand that you might not want to do that.
>>
>> In any case, even if you leave everything set up like it is, you should
>> still make the registry entry in XP. It doesn't matter how you installed
>> the operating systems, you would still hide Vista from XP the same way.
>>
>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:upXPZ%23zdIHA.5416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>I tried that exactly as you suggested Colin, and it made no difference.
>>> Still boots directly into XP, then I go into bios boot menu, choose the
>>> third sata drive my Vista is on, then it boots directly into Vista.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help, probaby something small I am missing - I installed
>>> VistaBootPro and run it from my Vista install, should I install it and
>>> run it from the XP install instead?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:9C9B785E-A60F-4C7B-BF19-B81C3F86062A@microsoft.com...
>>>> Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader and
>>>> All Drives.
>>>>
>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was
>>>>> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I was
>>>>> supposed to do, never could get it to do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Don
>>>>>
>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and
>>>>>> then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free and
>>>>>> uses a GUI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new
>>>>>>> hard drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing "
>>>>>>> Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.
>>>>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my
>>>>>>> bios boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from. Based
>>>>>>> on what I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot menu
>>>>>>> option to boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition, which
>>>>>>> is fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C"
>>>>>>> partition.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore
>>>>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to
>>>>>>> show or just be happy leaving it as it is .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will
>>>>>>>> have a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and
>>>>>>>> "Microsoft Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and
>>>>>>>> simply select your desired partition for installation your disk
>>>>>>>> drive lettering will align between the two systems. If you set the
>>>>>>>> XP drive as the boot drive and then boot the system with the Vista
>>>>>>>> dvd you will get variation of the drive lettering (no real problem)
>>>>>>>> and will have the boot menu after you install Vista on the second
>>>>>>>> drive or partition.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect
>>>>>>>> the Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any
>>>>>>>> special techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and
>>>>>>>>> see if I can understand what I need to do.
>>>>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard drive,
>>>>>>>>> it would automatically give me that option during boot, but it
>>>>>>>>> didn't.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment
>>>>>>>>>> allows you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup
>>>>>>>>>> without risking anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the
>>>>>>>>>> resolution for that issue. Use it and you will not have to use
>>>>>>>>>> the escape key or special boot managers or anything else other
>>>>>>>>>> than the traditional boot menu Windows sets up for you when you
>>>>>>>>>> install a second OS on a computer.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to
>>>>>>>>>>> do, to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do
>>>>>>>>>>> have Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker
>>>>>>>>>>> feature as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify
>>>>>>>>>>> where I am with that and what it is doing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.
>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)
>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for drive
>>>>>>>>>>> 1 first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine as it
>>>>>>>>>>> is still going to be my main OS for a while.
>>>>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot
>>>>>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3,
>>>>>>>>>>> then it will go ahead and boot into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times, I
>>>>>>>>>>> find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into
>>>>>>>>>>> rather than going through the above steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but
>>>>>>>>>>> for some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not
>>>>>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.
>>>>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be
>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not
>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's
>>>>>>>>>>>> recommended procedure makes that unneccessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will always have to go in and select which drive to boot
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from correct, rather than having it give me the option of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which OS to boot to during bootup?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all parition letters intact as they should be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is if I need to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on unplugged
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when installing the Vista Ultimate full version on the new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it usually means that the Vista installation did not see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your XP drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should be able to boot from bios to the drive you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means, if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you don't touch anything XP will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive to create a start menu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a dual boot environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to, it only boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it shows as drive E?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing here, but apparently I did something I should not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> main OS and I desperately need to be able to get back to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

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