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John Barnes
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Re: Installed Vista dual boot, think I screwed up!
When you have the legacy entry set up via VBP using your default boot
process, which you said was Vista, you can set the legacy drive letter to C
or you can copy the three files to the Vista drive then change the boot.ini
if necessary. If you gave the information you have in Disk Management from
Vista it would be easier to help. When you set up the legacy drive you did
not have it pointing to the partition with the ntldr file on it. You can
add the files where you have it pointed or repoint the legacy entry.
"Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:uLnOXm0dIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Not yet, I don't think I quite understood exactly how to do it, I will
> re-read again and see what I can do.
>
> I now have managed to get the choice to load either Vista or XP, but only
> after hitting escape to enter my bios menu and choosing the Vista hard
> drive to boot from, can't seem to get it to do it from my first hard
> drive, the one XP is installed on.
>
> I reckon I better quit messing with VBP while I am ahead before I screw
> something up...
>
>
>
> --
> Don
>
>
> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
> news:OhtPlh0dIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> If you run VBP from the XP partition the way you have changed boot
>> priority 'on the fly', you will overwrite the XP boot process. You would
>> be able to reverse it later, if you actually can get back into VBP on
>> that drive. Have you copied the files I recommended earlier?
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:460A5EDB-BD0B-4B5A-B780-26831A825984@microsoft.com...
>>> Sure. Won't hurt.
>>>
>>> The ideal thing would be to simply do a fresh install of Vista from the
>>> XP desktop but I can understand that you might not want to do that.
>>>
>>> In any case, even if you leave everything set up like it is, you should
>>> still make the registry entry in XP. It doesn't matter how you
>>> installed the operating systems, you would still hide Vista from XP the
>>> same way.
>>>
>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:upXPZ%23zdIHA.5416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>I tried that exactly as you suggested Colin, and it made no difference.
>>>> Still boots directly into XP, then I go into bios boot menu, choose the
>>>> third sata drive my Vista is on, then it boots directly into Vista.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the help, probaby something small I am missing - I installed
>>>> VistaBootPro and run it from my Vista install, should I install it and
>>>> run it from the XP install instead?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:9C9B785E-A60F-4C7B-BF19-B81C3F86062A@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader
>>>>> and All Drives.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was
>>>>>> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I
>>>>>> was supposed to do, never could get it to do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and
>>>>>>> then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free
>>>>>>> and uses a GUI.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new
>>>>>>>> hard drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing
>>>>>>>> " Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.
>>>>>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my
>>>>>>>> bios boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from.
>>>>>>>> Based on what I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot
>>>>>>>> menu option to boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition,
>>>>>>>> which is fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C"
>>>>>>>> partition.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore
>>>>>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to
>>>>>>>> show or just be happy leaving it as it is .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will
>>>>>>>>> have a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and
>>>>>>>>> "Microsoft Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and
>>>>>>>>> simply select your desired partition for installation your disk
>>>>>>>>> drive lettering will align between the two systems. If you set
>>>>>>>>> the XP drive as the boot drive and then boot the system with the
>>>>>>>>> Vista dvd you will get variation of the drive lettering (no real
>>>>>>>>> problem) and will have the boot menu after you install Vista on
>>>>>>>>> the second drive or partition.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect
>>>>>>>>> the Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any
>>>>>>>>> special techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and
>>>>>>>>>> see if I can understand what I need to do.
>>>>>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard
>>>>>>>>>> drive, it would automatically give me that option during boot,
>>>>>>>>>> but it didn't.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment
>>>>>>>>>>> allows you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup
>>>>>>>>>>> without risking anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the
>>>>>>>>>>> resolution for that issue. Use it and you will not have to use
>>>>>>>>>>> the escape key or special boot managers or anything else other
>>>>>>>>>>> than the traditional boot menu Windows sets up for you when you
>>>>>>>>>>> install a second OS on a computer.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to
>>>>>>>>>>>> do, to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do
>>>>>>>>>>>> have Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker
>>>>>>>>>>>> feature as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify
>>>>>>>>>>>> where I am with that and what it is doing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for
>>>>>>>>>>>> drive 1 first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine
>>>>>>>>>>>> as it is still going to be my main OS for a while.
>>>>>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot
>>>>>>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3,
>>>>>>>>>>>> then it will go ahead and boot into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into
>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than going through the above steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but
>>>>>>>>>>>> for some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not
>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be
>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> recommended procedure makes that unneccessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will always have to go in and select which drive to boot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from correct, rather than having it give me the option of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which OS to boot to during bootup?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all parition letters intact as they should be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is if I need to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unplugged when installing the Vista Ultimate full version
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the new drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it usually means that the Vista installation did not see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your XP drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should be able to boot from bios to the drive you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you don't touch anything XP will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive to create a start menu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a dual boot environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to, it only boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it shows as drive E?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing here, but apparently I did something I should not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> main OS and I desperately need to be able to get back to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
When you have the legacy entry set up via VBP using your default boot
process, which you said was Vista, you can set the legacy drive letter to C
or you can copy the three files to the Vista drive then change the boot.ini
if necessary. If you gave the information you have in Disk Management from
Vista it would be easier to help. When you set up the legacy drive you did
not have it pointing to the partition with the ntldr file on it. You can
add the files where you have it pointed or repoint the legacy entry.
"Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:uLnOXm0dIHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Not yet, I don't think I quite understood exactly how to do it, I will
> re-read again and see what I can do.
>
> I now have managed to get the choice to load either Vista or XP, but only
> after hitting escape to enter my bios menu and choosing the Vista hard
> drive to boot from, can't seem to get it to do it from my first hard
> drive, the one XP is installed on.
>
> I reckon I better quit messing with VBP while I am ahead before I screw
> something up...
>
>
>
> --
> Don
>
>
> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
> news:OhtPlh0dIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> If you run VBP from the XP partition the way you have changed boot
>> priority 'on the fly', you will overwrite the XP boot process. You would
>> be able to reverse it later, if you actually can get back into VBP on
>> that drive. Have you copied the files I recommended earlier?
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:460A5EDB-BD0B-4B5A-B780-26831A825984@microsoft.com...
>>> Sure. Won't hurt.
>>>
>>> The ideal thing would be to simply do a fresh install of Vista from the
>>> XP desktop but I can understand that you might not want to do that.
>>>
>>> In any case, even if you leave everything set up like it is, you should
>>> still make the registry entry in XP. It doesn't matter how you
>>> installed the operating systems, you would still hide Vista from XP the
>>> same way.
>>>
>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:upXPZ%23zdIHA.5416@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>I tried that exactly as you suggested Colin, and it made no difference.
>>>> Still boots directly into XP, then I go into bios boot menu, choose the
>>>> third sata drive my Vista is on, then it boots directly into Vista.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the help, probaby something small I am missing - I installed
>>>> VistaBootPro and run it from my Vista install, should I install it and
>>>> run it from the XP install instead?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:9C9B785E-A60F-4C7B-BF19-B81C3F86062A@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Use VBP's System Bootloader tab and choose Windows Vista Bootloader
>>>>> and All Drives.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:e%23i9fpzdIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Ok, I will give it another shot then. I tried it once, and either was
>>>>>> doing something major wrong or just not understanding quite what I
>>>>>> was supposed to do, never could get it to do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:50FC11DD-9942-437E-B88E-9B091B0C26D6@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> You can use VistaBoot Pro to write the BCD store to the XP drive and
>>>>>>> then you should have a standard boot menu. VistaBoot Pro is free
>>>>>>> and uses a GUI.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:u8wfRdzdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Yes, but I have already installed Vista.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I installed it, by booting from the Vista DVD, selecting the new
>>>>>>>> hard drive, formatted it from there, and installed Vista onto it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I do not get a boot menu, now that Vista is up and running showing
>>>>>>>> " Older Version of Windows", and " Microsoft Vista" to choose from.
>>>>>>>> It just automatically boots into XP, unless I hit escape to hit my
>>>>>>>> bios boot menu, and select that third hard drive to boot from.
>>>>>>>> Based on what I had read beforehand, I had expected to get the boot
>>>>>>>> menu option to boot into either OS, and was surprised I did not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I am in XP, the Vista partition shows as " L " partition,
>>>>>>>> which is fine. When I am in Vista, that same partition shows as "C"
>>>>>>>> partition.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think I understand what I need to do to protect Vista's restore
>>>>>>>> points, just not sure if I am able to get the above boot menu to
>>>>>>>> show or just be happy leaving it as it is .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:81C511D1-DDC1-4AC2-8BDE-45EDA839E6B1@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>> Do not use the escape key technique to install Vista and you will
>>>>>>>>> have a boot options menu showing "Older Version of Windows" and
>>>>>>>>> "Microsoft Vista". If you run Vista setup from the XP desktop and
>>>>>>>>> simply select your desired partition for installation your disk
>>>>>>>>> drive lettering will align between the two systems. If you set
>>>>>>>>> the XP drive as the boot drive and then boot the system with the
>>>>>>>>> Vista dvd you will get variation of the drive lettering (no real
>>>>>>>>> problem) and will have the boot menu after you install Vista on
>>>>>>>>> the second drive or partition.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You may only have to create one registry key in order to protect
>>>>>>>>> the Vista volume from XP so there probably is no need to use any
>>>>>>>>> special techniques when installing Vista to have a safe system.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:uyxirZwdIHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Hmnm, I must have missed something there, I will read again and
>>>>>>>>>> see if I can understand what I need to do.
>>>>>>>>>> I had thought, when I installed Vista on the new third hard
>>>>>>>>>> drive, it would automatically give me that option during boot,
>>>>>>>>>> but it didn't.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll check it out and see what I can do , thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:C133CCB0-2A9F-4BE7-9FC3-E6E0ED783D0D@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> The registry edits in the procedure I gave in the attachment
>>>>>>>>>>> allows you to use the computer in a normal dual boot setup
>>>>>>>>>>> without risking anything in Vista when you boot XP. It is the
>>>>>>>>>>> resolution for that issue. Use it and you will not have to use
>>>>>>>>>>> the escape key or special boot managers or anything else other
>>>>>>>>>>> than the traditional boot menu Windows sets up for you when you
>>>>>>>>>>> install a second OS on a computer.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <burnetted@clotheshotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:eMGXDqtdIHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Colin, that certainly helps me understand what I need to
>>>>>>>>>>>> do, to keep my Vista restore points from getting deleted. I do
>>>>>>>>>>>> have Vista Ultimate, and understand I could use the Bitlocker
>>>>>>>>>>>> feature as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so in regards to booting into XP or Vista, let me clarify
>>>>>>>>>>>> where I am with that and what it is doing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have three sata hard drives.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 1 = XP OS ( 2 partitiions)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 2 - XP Data and Apps ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>>>>>> Drive 3 = Vista ( 2 partitions)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, I have my hard disk boot order in bios, set for
>>>>>>>>>>>> drive 1 first, which automatically boots into XP, which is fine
>>>>>>>>>>>> as it is still going to be my main OS for a while.
>>>>>>>>>>>> To get into Vista, during boot, I hit escape to get into a boot
>>>>>>>>>>>> menu, then select boot from hard drive, then select Drive 3,
>>>>>>>>>>>> then it will go ahead and boot into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is really not that bad a deal, but after doing a few times,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I find myself wishing I could just select which OS to boot into
>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than going through the above steps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried the Easy Bcd program, and also Vista Boot Pro, but
>>>>>>>>>>>> for some reason can't seem to get it to work. Perhaps I am not
>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding exactly how to do it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any other tips for my simple mind would certainly be
>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:055C6899-2EB6-4F45-B0D0-8ABB8292C604@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please see the attachment in my latest post. It is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary to go through what you are doing. Microsoft's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> recommended procedure makes that unneccessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:uY%23G5CndIHA.544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Lance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure I understand, they way I have mine set now,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will always have to go in and select which drive to boot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from correct, rather than having it give me the option of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which OS to boot to during bootup?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is no big deal for me, just wanted to make sure, it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working great as is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eF0UgomdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colin, He's not in a dual boot situation so each drive is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You would have to do this if Vista was the boot manager.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don, Choose which ever OS you want to boot first. For me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's Vista. It's running nice and smooth with SP1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have fun.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don B" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:ebmVmhldIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Awesome I finally was able to boot back to my XP Pro, with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all parition letters intact as they should be.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks Lance!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed the hard disk boot priority, to the disk XP was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intalled on as the first, and it booted right up into XP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I restard, I hit escape to enter boot menu, choose the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard disk that Vista is on, and it boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whew, I was nervous there for a few minutes, again, many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what would be best way, to get it to just give me an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> option between Vista and XP upon booting?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I sure don't want to scredw anything up, I can live with it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like it is if I need to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Btw, no I did not have my main drive that XP is on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unplugged when installing the Vista Ultimate full version
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the new drive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Lance Le Claire" <la_1@videotron.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:Om1KLUldIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made a good choice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's how I installed mine. If you don't have dual boot,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it usually means that the Vista installation did not see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your XP drive (was it unplugged?) if so that's just fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should be able to boot from bios to the drive you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go to your bios and set XP hd as first boot. That means,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you don't touch anything XP will boot first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually on boot screen you ave an option to choose boot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from (usually F10 check your manual ) on most boards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hit the F10, get a drive menu and choose the XP drive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to XP. If I don't do anything Vista will boot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If worst comes to worst, use VistaBootPro on your Vista
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive to create a start menu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista boot Pro can be found http://www.vistabootpro.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lance Frca {497083/1008563} MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.zardoc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XP-Vista Trucs et Astuces et autres
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Don" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eFBrtDldIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey gang,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I have messed up here. I just installed 64 bit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista Ultimate, retail full version, in what I thought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a dual boot environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a new sata hard drive, and installed Vista on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I do not get an option when I boot to choose wich OS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to boot to, it only boots into Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Under Vista, it shows as my C drive, I see the partion on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other hard drive my XP Pro is on, however under Vista
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it shows as drive E?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dangit, I thought I had read enough to know what I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing here, but apparently I did something I should not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would sure appreciate any help here, my XP Pro is my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> main OS and I desperately need to be able to get back to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
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