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Frank
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Re: A businessman tries Ubuntu
On the Bridge! wrote:
....question...did you take your meds today?
Frank
On the Bridge! wrote:
....question...did you take your meds today?
Frank
D
dennis@home
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Re: A businessman tries Ubuntu
"Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
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> e wrote:
> If you're not willing to tell us what programs work in Vista and don't
> work in Ubuntu, how can anyone help you? Or are you lying like Frank does?
I'll start the list if you want..
http://www.play.com/Games/PC/6-/RegionHome.html
Then there are things like office, CS3, loads of engineering programs.
It is probably easier for you to list any programs that run on linux that
don't run on vista as you can probably do that in one line.
> I mean how much effort does it take to list a few programs? I would say a
> lot less than the rant you posted above.
Well you have your chance now.
"Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
news:#gRm$4IfIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> e wrote:
> If you're not willing to tell us what programs work in Vista and don't
> work in Ubuntu, how can anyone help you? Or are you lying like Frank does?
I'll start the list if you want..
http://www.play.com/Games/PC/6-/RegionHome.html
Then there are things like office, CS3, loads of engineering programs.
It is probably easier for you to list any programs that run on linux that
don't run on vista as you can probably do that in one line.
> I mean how much effort does it take to list a few programs? I would say a
> lot less than the rant you posted above.
Well you have your chance now.
D
dennis@home
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Re: A businessman tries Ubuntu
"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> e wrote:
>
>> If you use Linux and are completely satisfied with the
>> applications available to you, you've probably shrunk
>> your requirements to fit the capability of Linux.
>
> Actually the complete opposite is true. I know, because I know how to use
> Linux and know what it is capable of doing. My requirements can only be
> accomplished efficiently and productively with stability and security by
> using Linux. It offers so many tools, so far advanced over anything in the
> Windoze world, there is simply no comparison.
Such as?
"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:fqelna01jie@news1.newsguy.com...
> e wrote:
>
>> If you use Linux and are completely satisfied with the
>> applications available to you, you've probably shrunk
>> your requirements to fit the capability of Linux.
>
> Actually the complete opposite is true. I know, because I know how to use
> Linux and know what it is capable of doing. My requirements can only be
> accomplished efficiently and productively with stability and security by
> using Linux. It offers so many tools, so far advanced over anything in the
> Windoze world, there is simply no comparison.
Such as?
E
e
Guest
Re: A businessman tries Ubuntu
No, I'm not a troll - though the effect is the same
because those who seek to promote Linux in this Vista
discussion group are maintaining this thread beyond its
real value. Had they not felt it necessary to defend
their hobby, this thread would have been much shorter.
I won't perpetuate the thread, so offer a few points as
a final post.
1. The "professionals" that I met in the Linux SIG were
not "Linux professionals". They were generally degree'd
computer science or IT professionals that gather
periodically to share Linux information and help
newcomers (like me). Most use Windows in one part or
another of their professional lives. If I printed out
this thread and shared it at a future meeting, most
would be amused.
2. I don't care whether software companies publish
Linux-compatible applications in the future. My work is
now, and Vista satisfies my needs NOW while Linux
cannot. I won't boot into one OS to do some of my work
and then into another to finish it.
3. Ubuntu was 100% stable. It never crashed or froze
while I was using it. My SIG friends set up cosmetic
features that made it look and feel better than the
basic install. It doesn't seem like an OS for hobbyists.
4. Vista was 100% stable. It never crashed or froze
while I was using it. It looks somewhat nicer than
Ubuntu, and has more cosmetic features available for it.
5. I'm leaving Ubuntu on this computer. Why not? It's
interesting, though for me not practical.
FINALLY:
I would have preferred a shift to Ubuntu, but in my line
of work [Ubuntu plus available apps] doesn't provide
task-by-task equivalence to [Vista plus available apps].
No, I'm not a troll - though the effect is the same
because those who seek to promote Linux in this Vista
discussion group are maintaining this thread beyond its
real value. Had they not felt it necessary to defend
their hobby, this thread would have been much shorter.
I won't perpetuate the thread, so offer a few points as
a final post.
1. The "professionals" that I met in the Linux SIG were
not "Linux professionals". They were generally degree'd
computer science or IT professionals that gather
periodically to share Linux information and help
newcomers (like me). Most use Windows in one part or
another of their professional lives. If I printed out
this thread and shared it at a future meeting, most
would be amused.
2. I don't care whether software companies publish
Linux-compatible applications in the future. My work is
now, and Vista satisfies my needs NOW while Linux
cannot. I won't boot into one OS to do some of my work
and then into another to finish it.
3. Ubuntu was 100% stable. It never crashed or froze
while I was using it. My SIG friends set up cosmetic
features that made it look and feel better than the
basic install. It doesn't seem like an OS for hobbyists.
4. Vista was 100% stable. It never crashed or froze
while I was using it. It looks somewhat nicer than
Ubuntu, and has more cosmetic features available for it.
5. I'm leaving Ubuntu on this computer. Why not? It's
interesting, though for me not practical.
FINALLY:
I would have preferred a shift to Ubuntu, but in my line
of work [Ubuntu plus available apps] doesn't provide
task-by-task equivalence to [Vista plus available apps].
F
Frank
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Re: A businessman tries Ubuntu
On the Bridge! wrote:
> I am NOT confused. You don't seem to understand do you? Ill try to explain
> once again...
So you're going to explain his answer to him?
Wonderful!
..
>
> IF AND WHEN LINUX starts getting used by more people then companies will
> port their programs,
> but if there are no ported programs then most people will avoid Linux and
> stick to Windows.
> This is a vicious circle, and this circle was created by MS that actually
> has a monopoly dah...
Oh, so it's all MS's fault huh? Like it's MS fault you're too
incompetent to get one little install of Vista to run properly, huh?
> and knows how to control what platforms get installed on new computers to
> ENSURE that most people have windows, and ensure that there will not be many
> linux boxes, in order to ensure that more people wont be asking for programs
> to be ported on linux! DAH!
Again, it's all MS's fault that linux, an old POS toy os isn't doing
very well?
>
> The UBUNTU platform is up and ready to handle whatever ported app you throw
> at it and it can do ANYTHING windows can.
Except run almost none of the today's most popular software.
And it can do it better than Vista
> if you ask me, that is the most horrid version of windows I have seen.
Well, considering the source that's not hard to understand.
>
> Forget those so called lousy " professionals" you talked to that come
> accross as ignorant fellows, and all your "testing" was in vain. You were
> looking for something that does not exist, but its not because of the
> platform but because of the "computer ecology" that is on planet earth now.
OMG...are you confused or what?
>
> all you had to do is ask me and I would explain the situation to you as
> things are.
hehehe...yeah..capin' crunch will fly right over in his cardboard space
ship and fix everything...hahaha!
Frank
On the Bridge! wrote:
> I am NOT confused. You don't seem to understand do you? Ill try to explain
> once again...
So you're going to explain his answer to him?
Wonderful!
..
>
> IF AND WHEN LINUX starts getting used by more people then companies will
> port their programs,
> but if there are no ported programs then most people will avoid Linux and
> stick to Windows.
> This is a vicious circle, and this circle was created by MS that actually
> has a monopoly dah...
Oh, so it's all MS's fault huh? Like it's MS fault you're too
incompetent to get one little install of Vista to run properly, huh?
> and knows how to control what platforms get installed on new computers to
> ENSURE that most people have windows, and ensure that there will not be many
> linux boxes, in order to ensure that more people wont be asking for programs
> to be ported on linux! DAH!
Again, it's all MS's fault that linux, an old POS toy os isn't doing
very well?
>
> The UBUNTU platform is up and ready to handle whatever ported app you throw
> at it and it can do ANYTHING windows can.
Except run almost none of the today's most popular software.
And it can do it better than Vista
> if you ask me, that is the most horrid version of windows I have seen.
Well, considering the source that's not hard to understand.
>
> Forget those so called lousy " professionals" you talked to that come
> accross as ignorant fellows, and all your "testing" was in vain. You were
> looking for something that does not exist, but its not because of the
> platform but because of the "computer ecology" that is on planet earth now.
OMG...are you confused or what?
>
> all you had to do is ask me and I would explain the situation to you as
> things are.
hehehe...yeah..capin' crunch will fly right over in his cardboard space
ship and fix everything...hahaha!
Frank
A
Alias
Guest
Re: A businessman tries Ubuntu
dennis@home wrote:
>
>
> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:#gRm$4IfIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> e wrote:
>
>> If you're not willing to tell us what programs work in Vista and don't
>> work in Ubuntu, how can anyone help you? Or are you lying like Frank
>> does?
>
> I'll start the list if you want..
> http://www.play.com/Games/PC/6-/RegionHome.html
>
> Then there are things like office, CS3, loads of engineering programs.
> It is probably easier for you to list any programs that run on linux
> that don't run on vista as you can probably do that in one line.
>
>> I mean how much effort does it take to list a few programs? I would
>> say a lot less than the rant you posted above.
>
> Well you have your chance now.
With the exception of a few specialized Windows-only programs and games,
Ubuntu can do everything Vista can and would be appropriate for 95% of
retail buyers of Vista, be it retail or preinstalled by Dell et al.
For those few programs that are Windows only and games, a dual boot is
very easy to set up unless you're Frank.
The biggie for me that Vista and XP will run and Linux won't is WPA and
WGA, especially WGA. The other is Windows being prone to viruses, root
kits and other malware.
The other thing is finding programs, even if they do work on Vista, is
much easier than Windows as are updates.
Now, that's programs. The ones you don't have to run in Ubuntu but are
essential in Windows are anti virus and anti malware programs as long as
you have a hard firewall enabled in a router.
Sooo, the best of both worlds is to have both, each for their own
particular benefits. Use Windows for your Windows only specialized
programs and games. Use Ubuntu for everything else. I think sooner or
later someone like Dell or HP will offer a dual boot Vista/Ubuntu.
Alias.
dennis@home wrote:
>
>
> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:#gRm$4IfIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> e wrote:
>
>> If you're not willing to tell us what programs work in Vista and don't
>> work in Ubuntu, how can anyone help you? Or are you lying like Frank
>> does?
>
> I'll start the list if you want..
> http://www.play.com/Games/PC/6-/RegionHome.html
>
> Then there are things like office, CS3, loads of engineering programs.
> It is probably easier for you to list any programs that run on linux
> that don't run on vista as you can probably do that in one line.
>
>> I mean how much effort does it take to list a few programs? I would
>> say a lot less than the rant you posted above.
>
> Well you have your chance now.
With the exception of a few specialized Windows-only programs and games,
Ubuntu can do everything Vista can and would be appropriate for 95% of
retail buyers of Vista, be it retail or preinstalled by Dell et al.
For those few programs that are Windows only and games, a dual boot is
very easy to set up unless you're Frank.
The biggie for me that Vista and XP will run and Linux won't is WPA and
WGA, especially WGA. The other is Windows being prone to viruses, root
kits and other malware.
The other thing is finding programs, even if they do work on Vista, is
much easier than Windows as are updates.
Now, that's programs. The ones you don't have to run in Ubuntu but are
essential in Windows are anti virus and anti malware programs as long as
you have a hard firewall enabled in a router.
Sooo, the best of both worlds is to have both, each for their own
particular benefits. Use Windows for your Windows only specialized
programs and games. Use Ubuntu for everything else. I think sooner or
later someone like Dell or HP will offer a dual boot Vista/Ubuntu.
Alias.
D
dennis@home
Guest
Re: A businessman tries Ubuntu
"Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
news:u7dt95JfIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> dennis@home wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:#gRm$4IfIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> e wrote:
>>
>>> If you're not willing to tell us what programs work in Vista and don't
>>> work in Ubuntu, how can anyone help you? Or are you lying like Frank
>>> does?
>>
>> I'll start the list if you want..
>> http://www.play.com/Games/PC/6-/RegionHome.html
>>
>> Then there are things like office, CS3, loads of engineering programs.
>> It is probably easier for you to list any programs that run on linux that
>> don't run on vista as you can probably do that in one line.
>>
>>> I mean how much effort does it take to list a few programs? I would say
>>> a lot less than the rant you posted above.
>>
>> Well you have your chance now.
Lets try again with you answering the question..
which Ubuntu programs won't run on windows?
snip stuff that didn't answer the question at all.
"Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
news:u7dt95JfIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> dennis@home wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:#gRm$4IfIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> e wrote:
>>
>>> If you're not willing to tell us what programs work in Vista and don't
>>> work in Ubuntu, how can anyone help you? Or are you lying like Frank
>>> does?
>>
>> I'll start the list if you want..
>> http://www.play.com/Games/PC/6-/RegionHome.html
>>
>> Then there are things like office, CS3, loads of engineering programs.
>> It is probably easier for you to list any programs that run on linux that
>> don't run on vista as you can probably do that in one line.
>>
>>> I mean how much effort does it take to list a few programs? I would say
>>> a lot less than the rant you posted above.
>>
>> Well you have your chance now.
Lets try again with you answering the question..
which Ubuntu programs won't run on windows?
snip stuff that didn't answer the question at all.
H
Holz
Guest
Re: A businessman tries Ubuntu
On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 11:20:59 -0800
Frank <fab@notspam.com> wrote:
> Oh, so it's all MS's fault huh? Like it's MS fault you're too
> incompetent to get one little install of Vista to run properly, huh?
Yes, because Vista sucks. Just check this forum.
--
Live & let live, or leave.
On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 11:20:59 -0800
Frank <fab@notspam.com> wrote:
> Oh, so it's all MS's fault huh? Like it's MS fault you're too
> incompetent to get one little install of Vista to run properly, huh?
Yes, because Vista sucks. Just check this forum.
--
Live & let live, or leave.
F
Frank
Guest
Re: A businessman tries Ubuntu
Alias wrote:
>
>
> ...With the exception of a few specialized Windows-only programs and games,
> Ubuntu can do everything Vista can and would be appropriate for 95% of
> retail buyers of Vista, be it retail or preinstalled by Dell et al.
You're totally wrong. Hey fool...do you actually think you can get by
with that outright lie in this ng? Are you really that stupid, huh?
>
> For those few programs that are Windows only and games, a dual boot is
> very easy to set up unless you're Frank.
>
> The biggie for me that Vista and XP will run and Linux won't is WPA and
> WGA, especially WGA. The other is Windows being prone to viruses, root
> kits and other malware.
More of your lies...or are so dumb that you actually believe them?
>
> The other thing is finding programs, even if they do work on Vista, is
> much easier than Windows as are updates.
???
>
> Now, that's programs. The ones you don't have to run in Ubuntu but are
> essential in Windows are anti virus and anti malware programs as long as
> you have a hard firewall enabled in a router.
>
> Sooo, the best of both worlds is to have both, each for their own
> particular benefits.
Bullsh*t. One OS, Vista, will run everything...absolutely everything.
Use Windows for your Windows only specialized
> programs and games. Use Ubuntu for everything else.
Why bother with urbunttoo when Vista will run everything?
I think sooner or
> later someone like Dell or HP will offer a dual boot Vista/Ubuntu.
You think...that is your first problem.
Frank
Alias wrote:
>
>
> ...With the exception of a few specialized Windows-only programs and games,
> Ubuntu can do everything Vista can and would be appropriate for 95% of
> retail buyers of Vista, be it retail or preinstalled by Dell et al.
You're totally wrong. Hey fool...do you actually think you can get by
with that outright lie in this ng? Are you really that stupid, huh?
>
> For those few programs that are Windows only and games, a dual boot is
> very easy to set up unless you're Frank.
>
> The biggie for me that Vista and XP will run and Linux won't is WPA and
> WGA, especially WGA. The other is Windows being prone to viruses, root
> kits and other malware.
More of your lies...or are so dumb that you actually believe them?
>
> The other thing is finding programs, even if they do work on Vista, is
> much easier than Windows as are updates.
???
>
> Now, that's programs. The ones you don't have to run in Ubuntu but are
> essential in Windows are anti virus and anti malware programs as long as
> you have a hard firewall enabled in a router.
>
> Sooo, the best of both worlds is to have both, each for their own
> particular benefits.
Bullsh*t. One OS, Vista, will run everything...absolutely everything.
Use Windows for your Windows only specialized
> programs and games. Use Ubuntu for everything else.
Why bother with urbunttoo when Vista will run everything?
I think sooner or
> later someone like Dell or HP will offer a dual boot Vista/Ubuntu.
You think...that is your first problem.
Frank
H
Holz
Guest
Re: A businessman tries Ubuntu
On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:33:32 -0800
Frank <fb@osspan.clm> wrote:
> You're totally wrong. Hey fool...do you actually think you can get by
> with that outright lie in this ng? Are you really that stupid, huh?
In the business environment, Everything that VISTA can with few
exceptions:
No anti virus needed on the workstations.
No limit in drive letter connections.
Better support and performance for large drives.
Better RDP capability.
Safer browsing on the Internet without the need for third party "Anti"
software.
A better built in firewall.
Better fix and repair capability over the famous re-install.
Bottom line
There is no business or home PC reason what so ever to have VISTA
installed.
Read the Vista forums, sounds like they are running DOS 5.1...
--
Live & let live, or leave.
On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:33:32 -0800
Frank <fb@osspan.clm> wrote:
> You're totally wrong. Hey fool...do you actually think you can get by
> with that outright lie in this ng? Are you really that stupid, huh?
In the business environment, Everything that VISTA can with few
exceptions:
No anti virus needed on the workstations.
No limit in drive letter connections.
Better support and performance for large drives.
Better RDP capability.
Safer browsing on the Internet without the need for third party "Anti"
software.
A better built in firewall.
Better fix and repair capability over the famous re-install.
Bottom line
There is no business or home PC reason what so ever to have VISTA
installed.
Read the Vista forums, sounds like they are running DOS 5.1...
--
Live & let live, or leave.
N
NoStop
Guest
Re: A businessman tries Ubuntu
dennis@home wrote:
>
>
> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:fqelna01jie@news1.newsguy.com...
>> e wrote:
>>
>>> If you use Linux and are completely satisfied with the
>>> applications available to you, you've probably shrunk
>>> your requirements to fit the capability of Linux.
>>
>> Actually the complete opposite is true. I know, because I know how to use
>> Linux and know what it is capable of doing. My requirements can only be
>> accomplished efficiently and productively with stability and security by
>> using Linux. It offers so many tools, so far advanced over anything in
>> the Windoze world, there is simply no comparison.
>
> Such as?
Such as, you should know as you state you're so familiar with Linux. Here's
just one ... think X windows and running apps remotely. Here's another ...
think a transcode cluster. No more hints. I hate helping out trolls.
Cheers.
--
What does Bill Gates use?
http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl
Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.
Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?
Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm
dennis@home wrote:
>
>
> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:fqelna01jie@news1.newsguy.com...
>> e wrote:
>>
>>> If you use Linux and are completely satisfied with the
>>> applications available to you, you've probably shrunk
>>> your requirements to fit the capability of Linux.
>>
>> Actually the complete opposite is true. I know, because I know how to use
>> Linux and know what it is capable of doing. My requirements can only be
>> accomplished efficiently and productively with stability and security by
>> using Linux. It offers so many tools, so far advanced over anything in
>> the Windoze world, there is simply no comparison.
>
> Such as?
Such as, you should know as you state you're so familiar with Linux. Here's
just one ... think X windows and running apps remotely. Here's another ...
think a transcode cluster. No more hints. I hate helping out trolls.
Cheers.
--
What does Bill Gates use?
http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl
Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.
Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?
Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm
N
NoStop
Guest
Re: A businessman tries Ubuntu
Frank wrote:
> Bullsh*t. One OS, Vista, will run everything...absolutely everything.
>
Get a brain Francis. I think half of it rolled over
there ------------------------ > in the great war battlefield you said you
were involved in.
Cheers.
--
What does Bill Gates use?
http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl
Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.
Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?
Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm
Frank wrote:
> Bullsh*t. One OS, Vista, will run everything...absolutely everything.
>
Get a brain Francis. I think half of it rolled over
there ------------------------ > in the great war battlefield you said you
were involved in.
Cheers.
--
What does Bill Gates use?
http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl
Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.
Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?
Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm
O
On the Bridge!
Guest
Re: A businessman tries Ubuntu
Yes because if he talked to me I would explain it like a real professional..
lol
"Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message
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> On the Bridge! wrote:
>
>> What kind of idiot professionals did this guy talk to?
>>
>
>
> ...certainly not you...LOL!
> You're a real fukkin idiot!
> Frank
Yes because if he talked to me I would explain it like a real professional..
lol
"Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message
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> On the Bridge! wrote:
>
>> What kind of idiot professionals did this guy talk to?
>>
>
>
> ...certainly not you...LOL!
> You're a real fukkin idiot!
> Frank
N
NoStop
Guest
Re: A businessman tries Ubuntu
dennis@home wrote:
>
>
> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:u7dt95JfIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:#gRm$4IfIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> e wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you're not willing to tell us what programs work in Vista and don't
>>>> work in Ubuntu, how can anyone help you? Or are you lying like Frank
>>>> does?
>>>
>>> I'll start the list if you want..
>>> http://www.play.com/Games/PC/6-/RegionHome.html
>>>
>>> Then there are things like office, CS3, loads of engineering programs.
>>> It is probably easier for you to list any programs that run on linux
>>> that don't run on vista as you can probably do that in one line.
>>>
>>>> I mean how much effort does it take to list a few programs? I would say
>>>> a lot less than the rant you posted above.
>>>
>>> Well you have your chance now.
>
> Lets try again with you answering the question..
> which Ubuntu programs won't run on windows?
>
Let's make if far easier you pathetic moron. Look at the 25000+ software
packages available through the Ubuntu repos and you tell us which ones will
run on Windoze. That will be a very very short list compared to the other
way around. What an pathetic idiot.
Cheers.
--
What does Bill Gates use?
http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl
Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.
Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?
Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm
dennis@home wrote:
>
>
> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:u7dt95JfIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> dennis@home wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:#gRm$4IfIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> e wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you're not willing to tell us what programs work in Vista and don't
>>>> work in Ubuntu, how can anyone help you? Or are you lying like Frank
>>>> does?
>>>
>>> I'll start the list if you want..
>>> http://www.play.com/Games/PC/6-/RegionHome.html
>>>
>>> Then there are things like office, CS3, loads of engineering programs.
>>> It is probably easier for you to list any programs that run on linux
>>> that don't run on vista as you can probably do that in one line.
>>>
>>>> I mean how much effort does it take to list a few programs? I would say
>>>> a lot less than the rant you posted above.
>>>
>>> Well you have your chance now.
>
> Lets try again with you answering the question..
> which Ubuntu programs won't run on windows?
>
Let's make if far easier you pathetic moron. Look at the 25000+ software
packages available through the Ubuntu repos and you tell us which ones will
run on Windoze. That will be a very very short list compared to the other
way around. What an pathetic idiot.
Cheers.
--
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http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl
Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.
Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?
Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm
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NoStop
Guest
Re: A businessman tries Ubuntu
Frank wrote:
> NoStop wrote:
>
>> e wrote:
>>
>>
>>>If you use Linux and are completely satisfied with the
>>>applications available to you, you've probably shrunk
>>>your requirements to fit the capability of Linux.
>>
>>
>> Actually the complete opposite is true.
>
> No it is not true.
> Only for you.
> You are an avowed linux fanatic and an MS hater.
> You are blinded by your hate.
> End of deal!
> Frank
You won't know as you know NOTHING about Linux. So just go away you brain
dead Wintard.
Cheers.
--
What does Bill Gates use?
http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl
Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.
Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?
Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm
Frank wrote:
> NoStop wrote:
>
>> e wrote:
>>
>>
>>>If you use Linux and are completely satisfied with the
>>>applications available to you, you've probably shrunk
>>>your requirements to fit the capability of Linux.
>>
>>
>> Actually the complete opposite is true.
>
> No it is not true.
> Only for you.
> You are an avowed linux fanatic and an MS hater.
> You are blinded by your hate.
> End of deal!
> Frank
You won't know as you know NOTHING about Linux. So just go away you brain
dead Wintard.
Cheers.
--
What does Bill Gates use?
http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl
Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.
Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?
Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm
O
On the Bridge!
Guest
Re: A businessman tries Ubuntu
Franky poo, when Vista fails you blame the 3rd party company that creates
the software and not vista dont you?
When a driver gives a blue screen you blame the driver creator and not vista
dont you
So with LINUX blame the 3rd parties for not creating software and drivers
and not the platform.
As for the monopolistic trends of MS, this is a fact... I dont see how you
can actually live(*) in this century and not undersand this simple thing. Im
not exactly saying its BAD, this is a large discussion.. .but facts are
facts.
(*) Are Cyborgs really alive? Hmmmmm
"Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message
news:%23nNKLqJfIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> On the Bridge! wrote:
>
>> I am NOT confused. You don't seem to understand do you? Ill try to
>> explain once again...
>
> So you're going to explain his answer to him?
> Wonderful!
> .
>>
>> IF AND WHEN LINUX starts getting used by more people then companies will
>> port their programs,
>> but if there are no ported programs then most people will avoid Linux and
>> stick to Windows.
>> This is a vicious circle, and this circle was created by MS that actually
>> has a monopoly dah...
>
> Oh, so it's all MS's fault huh? Like it's MS fault you're too incompetent
> to get one little install of Vista to run properly, huh?
>
>> and knows how to control what platforms get installed on new computers to
>> ENSURE that most people have windows, and ensure that there will not be
>> many linux boxes, in order to ensure that more people wont be asking for
>> programs to be ported on linux! DAH!
>
> Again, it's all MS's fault that linux, an old POS toy os isn't doing very
> well?
>>
>> The UBUNTU platform is up and ready to handle whatever ported app you
>> throw at it and it can do ANYTHING windows can.
>
> Except run almost none of the today's most popular software.
>
> And it can do it better than Vista
>> if you ask me, that is the most horrid version of windows I have seen.
>
> Well, considering the source that's not hard to understand.
>>
>> Forget those so called lousy " professionals" you talked to that come
>> accross as ignorant fellows, and all your "testing" was in vain. You were
>> looking for something that does not exist, but its not because of the
>> platform but because of the "computer ecology" that is on planet earth
>> now.
>
> OMG...are you confused or what?
>>
>> all you had to do is ask me and I would explain the situation to you as
>> things are.
>
> hehehe...yeah..capin' crunch will fly right over in his cardboard space
> ship and fix everything...hahaha!
> Frank
Franky poo, when Vista fails you blame the 3rd party company that creates
the software and not vista dont you?
When a driver gives a blue screen you blame the driver creator and not vista
dont you
So with LINUX blame the 3rd parties for not creating software and drivers
and not the platform.
As for the monopolistic trends of MS, this is a fact... I dont see how you
can actually live(*) in this century and not undersand this simple thing. Im
not exactly saying its BAD, this is a large discussion.. .but facts are
facts.
(*) Are Cyborgs really alive? Hmmmmm
"Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message
news:%23nNKLqJfIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> On the Bridge! wrote:
>
>> I am NOT confused. You don't seem to understand do you? Ill try to
>> explain once again...
>
> So you're going to explain his answer to him?
> Wonderful!
> .
>>
>> IF AND WHEN LINUX starts getting used by more people then companies will
>> port their programs,
>> but if there are no ported programs then most people will avoid Linux and
>> stick to Windows.
>> This is a vicious circle, and this circle was created by MS that actually
>> has a monopoly dah...
>
> Oh, so it's all MS's fault huh? Like it's MS fault you're too incompetent
> to get one little install of Vista to run properly, huh?
>
>> and knows how to control what platforms get installed on new computers to
>> ENSURE that most people have windows, and ensure that there will not be
>> many linux boxes, in order to ensure that more people wont be asking for
>> programs to be ported on linux! DAH!
>
> Again, it's all MS's fault that linux, an old POS toy os isn't doing very
> well?
>>
>> The UBUNTU platform is up and ready to handle whatever ported app you
>> throw at it and it can do ANYTHING windows can.
>
> Except run almost none of the today's most popular software.
>
> And it can do it better than Vista
>> if you ask me, that is the most horrid version of windows I have seen.
>
> Well, considering the source that's not hard to understand.
>>
>> Forget those so called lousy " professionals" you talked to that come
>> accross as ignorant fellows, and all your "testing" was in vain. You were
>> looking for something that does not exist, but its not because of the
>> platform but because of the "computer ecology" that is on planet earth
>> now.
>
> OMG...are you confused or what?
>>
>> all you had to do is ask me and I would explain the situation to you as
>> things are.
>
> hehehe...yeah..capin' crunch will fly right over in his cardboard space
> ship and fix everything...hahaha!
> Frank
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NoStop
Guest
Re: A businessman tries Ubuntu
dennis@home wrote:
>
>
> "On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message
> news:47cae687$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>> you are confusing platforms (OS's) with applications!
>
> 8<
>
>> THATS DARN RIGHT STUPID! You must see the software that is open source
>> and on ubuntu as
>> a plus feature, not a replacment for the software that other companies
>> should be porting...
>
> Should be porting?
> Why should they be porting their apps to linux?
> As it stands they aren't porting to Linux, however you can run the open
> source apps on vista so guess who is better off as far as choice of
> applications goes?
Very few Open Source apps have been ported to Windoze as Windoze wouldn't be
able to handle the vast majority of them.
Cheers.
--
What does Bill Gates use?
http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl
Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.
Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?
Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm
dennis@home wrote:
>
>
> "On the Bridge!" <On@the,Bridge> wrote in message
> news:47cae687$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>> you are confusing platforms (OS's) with applications!
>
> 8<
>
>> THATS DARN RIGHT STUPID! You must see the software that is open source
>> and on ubuntu as
>> a plus feature, not a replacment for the software that other companies
>> should be porting...
>
> Should be porting?
> Why should they be porting their apps to linux?
> As it stands they aren't porting to Linux, however you can run the open
> source apps on vista so guess who is better off as far as choice of
> applications goes?
Very few Open Source apps have been ported to Windoze as Windoze wouldn't be
able to handle the vast majority of them.
Cheers.
--
What does Bill Gates use?
http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl
Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.
Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?
Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm
O
On the Bridge!
Guest
Re: A businessman tries Ubuntu
No because I dont take meds, I dont need them...
but I can tell your doctor that you aint tak'n them!
Ok you want to feel more robot than biological..
thats called "the cyborg complex"..
Its a inferiority complex machines feel thinking they are better than
humans.
but you DO STILL HAVE biological parts that need that medication.
You cant escape your cyborg nature.. embrace it and take your meds,
it will give us some peace in here.
"Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message
news:eh$e6hJfIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> On the Bridge! wrote:
>
>
> ...question...did you take your meds today?
> Frank
No because I dont take meds, I dont need them...
but I can tell your doctor that you aint tak'n them!
Ok you want to feel more robot than biological..
thats called "the cyborg complex"..
Its a inferiority complex machines feel thinking they are better than
humans.
but you DO STILL HAVE biological parts that need that medication.
You cant escape your cyborg nature.. embrace it and take your meds,
it will give us some peace in here.
"Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message
news:eh$e6hJfIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> On the Bridge! wrote:
>
>
> ...question...did you take your meds today?
> Frank
N
NoStop
Guest
Re: A businessman tries Ubuntu
e wrote:
> Which of us is confused? My comparison was not
> application vs. application. I wanted to get MY various
> jobs done, so the comparison was on a task by task
> basis.
Playing Minesweeper isn't a task. It's a diversion from real computing. Now
go and defrag your See Drive or download the latest malware definitions. Do
something useful for christsakes.
Cheers.
--
What does Bill Gates use?
http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl
Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.
Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?
Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm
e wrote:
> Which of us is confused? My comparison was not
> application vs. application. I wanted to get MY various
> jobs done, so the comparison was on a task by task
> basis.
Playing Minesweeper isn't a task. It's a diversion from real computing. Now
go and defrag your See Drive or download the latest malware definitions. Do
something useful for christsakes.
Cheers.
--
What does Bill Gates use?
http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl
Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.
Q: What OS is built for lusers?
A: Which one requires running lusermgr.msc to create them?
Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm
D
dennis@home
Guest
Re: A businessman tries Ubuntu
"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:fqf3si42g8e@news5.newsguy.com...
> dennis@home wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:fqelna01jie@news1.newsguy.com...
>>> e wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you use Linux and are completely satisfied with the
>>>> applications available to you, you've probably shrunk
>>>> your requirements to fit the capability of Linux.
>>>
>>> Actually the complete opposite is true. I know, because I know how to
>>> use
>>> Linux and know what it is capable of doing. My requirements can only be
>>> accomplished efficiently and productively with stability and security by
>>> using Linux. It offers so many tools, so far advanced over anything in
>>> the Windoze world, there is simply no comparison.
>>
>> Such as?
>
> Such as, you should know as you state you're so familiar with Linux.
> Here's
> just one ... think X windows
OK I am.. you can run an X server on vista! Opps you got that one wrong.
> and running apps remotely.
Well you can use X, vnc, remote desktop and a few more, at least one more
than Linux AFAICS.
> Here's another ...
> think a transcode cluster.
Transcode what? Name the software.
If you mean transcoding.org then it GPL software and can be compiled for
widows if desired.
Although why you would want to when you can transcode a DVD at better than
real-time on a laptop like mine anyway.
> No more hints. I hate helping out trolls.
You are the troll, I don't mind helping you as you need it.
"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:fqf3si42g8e@news5.newsguy.com...
> dennis@home wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:fqelna01jie@news1.newsguy.com...
>>> e wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you use Linux and are completely satisfied with the
>>>> applications available to you, you've probably shrunk
>>>> your requirements to fit the capability of Linux.
>>>
>>> Actually the complete opposite is true. I know, because I know how to
>>> use
>>> Linux and know what it is capable of doing. My requirements can only be
>>> accomplished efficiently and productively with stability and security by
>>> using Linux. It offers so many tools, so far advanced over anything in
>>> the Windoze world, there is simply no comparison.
>>
>> Such as?
>
> Such as, you should know as you state you're so familiar with Linux.
> Here's
> just one ... think X windows
OK I am.. you can run an X server on vista! Opps you got that one wrong.
> and running apps remotely.
Well you can use X, vnc, remote desktop and a few more, at least one more
than Linux AFAICS.
> Here's another ...
> think a transcode cluster.
Transcode what? Name the software.
If you mean transcoding.org then it GPL software and can be compiled for
widows if desired.
Although why you would want to when you can transcode a DVD at better than
real-time on a laptop like mine anyway.
> No more hints. I hate helping out trolls.
You are the troll, I don't mind helping you as you need it.