registry help,please!

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Re: registry help,please!

Gary,
Thanks for your help, I understand. This pc is not used for online use very
much, that's why I was kind of discounting the virus or malware possibilty.
I will, of course have to keep all options open though. If something does
occur to you,please jump back in.
Jim
"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:ujESCj4gIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Well, we've made fairly certain that it's not hardware, that HIMEM.SYS
> isn't missing or messed up... I think you need to follow the track of that
> possible intruder for now. To be honest, I'm having one of my periodic
> medically derived losses of decent mental faculty and need to bow out of
> this diagnosis. I'll jump back in if anything comes up or occurs to me.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
> news:uaJpaOtgIHA.4396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> OK, I got the alt's to work, and the device line is still there.
>> I also traded out some of the memory sticks with the same result.
>>
>> What next, please?
>>
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> news:Of55HOigIHA.4744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Run EDIT CONFIG.SYS command again and see if the DEVICE= line is still
>>> there.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>
>>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uvvQ70hgIHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>I did what you said about the config.sys.(I think)
>>>> Here is what I did,
>>>> from C: I put dir C:\windows\himem.sys
>>>> I got a bunch of numbers,date, etc(if you need some of the
>>>> specifics,let me know and I will do it again)
>>>> Then I wrote edit C:\config.sys and a blue screen with "config.sys" on
>>>> top came up.
>>>> Here is where I wrote device=C:\windows\himem.sys
>>>> Then I hit alt F-S, which I thought you said it would save it, but it
>>>> didn't,it brought up a search request. I esc out of that and hit
>>>> alt-f-x and then it said it was saved. I then tried to reboot with no
>>>> luck.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>> news:unp2qnhgIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> OK, typical "crash". Could be memory. Could be, though, that the
>>>>> garbage is left over a previous run of SCANDISK. I'm running mental
>>>>> scenarios and my own admittedly faulty memories tell me it's actually
>>>>> common -- cross-linked files fixed but not the accompanying lost
>>>>> clusters.
>>>>>
>>>>> But that's only one possibility. You need to follow the instructions I
>>>>> already gave you to edit CONFIG.SYS, make sure where HIMEM.SYS is
>>>>> located, etc. What are the results?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23LgzgghgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> When I clicked on "view updates" I got a page fault msg. that had
>>>>>> something about "ddhelp",then I got the blue screen.After that, I am
>>>>>> not sure, I may have tried to reboot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Ouz%23dJhgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> "POW"? Froze the screen? Rebooted itself? Died altogether as if the
>>>>>>> cord was pulled?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:eNJba5ggIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Ok, Gary, I think I have been skipping around a little.
>>>>>>>> 1. my machine will not start normally.
>>>>>>>> 2.I can only go to option #5"command prompt only"(shift-f5)
>>>>>>>> 3.when I run scanreg, I get the msg thats says"you do not have
>>>>>>>> extended memory driver"
>>>>>>>> 4.I got a critical update notice from MS and got online(dialup) and
>>>>>>>> when I clicked on "view updates" POW!
>>>>>>>> Is that better? I have made some other posts that may help or
>>>>>>>> confuse further. We'll get this done!
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:e5PrWnggIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> OK, now I need to make sure what's what:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your machine won't start normally, or will it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When you currently start, without a floppy boot disk, you get an
>>>>>>>>> option "Command Prompt Only" and no other option? Or is that just
>>>>>>>>> the one that's highlighted? Or are you simply trying to run
>>>>>>>>> SCANREG?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is it only when you get the Command Prompt and run SCANREG that
>>>>>>>>> you get the memory errors?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you know what made your machine crashing the first place? Does
>>>>>>>>> it do it often?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:%23C90PaggIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> ok guys, I am a little confused on the order of things that I am
>>>>>>>>>> supposed to do.
>>>>>>>>>> I did scanreg and it told me about the himem and extended memory
>>>>>>>>>> driver.
>>>>>>>>>> I have made a boot disk,(although I am not sure what to do with
>>>>>>>>>> it and when.)
>>>>>>>>>> I did the edit c:config.sys thing in the blue screen(C:config.sys
>>>>>>>>>> on top) I added the "device" line here.
>>>>>>>>>> When I did the alt-f-s , a search thing came up.I didnt know what
>>>>>>>>>> to do then, so I esc and did alt f-x and it said it was saved.
>>>>>>>>>> I use the reset button to restart and nothing is different.Still
>>>>>>>>>> comes up in the setup with command prompt only highlighted.
>>>>>>>>>> I am pretty good on the step-by-step concept, so if you can tell
>>>>>>>>>> me what to do next, I would appreciate it.
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help,
>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:%23GIga$ZgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:
>>>>>>>>>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
>>>>>>>>>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
>>>>>>>>>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to get
>>>>>>>>>>> a new line.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop
>>>>>>>>>>>> right here
>>>>>>>>>>>> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM
>>>>>>>>>>>> diagnostic hints:
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> show a
>>>>>>>>>>>> problem, then continue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt
>>>>>>>>>>>> part, the
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to
>>>>>>>>>>>> exist. Unless you
>>>>>>>>>>>> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> command is
>>>>>>>>>>>> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but
>>>>>>>>>>>> you CAN input
>>>>>>>>>>>> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL
>>>>>>>>>>>> CAPS is a
>>>>>>>>>>>> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at
>>>>>>>>>>>> the end of
>>>>>>>>>>>> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way
>>>>>>>>>>>> to help you
>>>>>>>>>>>> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of
>>>>>>>>>>>> course.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this
>>>>>>>>>>>> command:
>>>>>>>>>>>> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If
>>>>>>>>>>>> error, quit
>>>>>>>>>>>> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the
>>>>>>>>>>>> file is
>>>>>>>>>>>> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere
>>>>>>>>>>>> in older DOS
>>>>>>>>>>>> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified
>>>>>>>>>>>> 98/98SE systems --
>>>>>>>>>>>> continue with the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
>>>>>>>>>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
>>>>>>>>>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to
>>>>>>>>>>>> close the file.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>> extended memory
>>>>>>>>>>>>> driver. Something about himem.sys
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be covered on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> business.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "command prompt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean by "chose backup"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Gary,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based upon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arcania of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command Prompt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the mode
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #5 "command
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and all I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> started again. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command" on both.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "scanreg" the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
 
Re: registry help,please!

Well, there *is* a way to get the registry backup restored without using
SCANREG, but I doubt my ability to guide you through the procedure. Involves
various ways of using WinZip and a LOT of work.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
news:ewsS0$6gIHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Gary,
> Thanks for your help, I understand. This pc is not used for online use
> very much, that's why I was kind of discounting the virus or malware
> possibilty. I will, of course have to keep all options open though. If
> something does occur to you,please jump back in.
> Jim
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:ujESCj4gIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Well, we've made fairly certain that it's not hardware, that HIMEM.SYS
>> isn't missing or messed up... I think you need to follow the track of
>> that possible intruder for now. To be honest, I'm having one of my
>> periodic medically derived losses of decent mental faculty and need to
>> bow out of this diagnosis. I'll jump back in if anything comes up or
>> occurs to me.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
>> news:uaJpaOtgIHA.4396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> OK, I got the alt's to work, and the device line is still there.
>>> I also traded out some of the memory sticks with the same result.
>>>
>>> What next, please?
>>>
>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>> news:Of55HOigIHA.4744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Run EDIT CONFIG.SYS command again and see if the DEVICE= line is still
>>>> there.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>
>>>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:uvvQ70hgIHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>I did what you said about the config.sys.(I think)
>>>>> Here is what I did,
>>>>> from C: I put dir C:\windows\himem.sys
>>>>> I got a bunch of numbers,date, etc(if you need some of the
>>>>> specifics,let me know and I will do it again)
>>>>> Then I wrote edit C:\config.sys and a blue screen with "config.sys"
>>>>> on top came up.
>>>>> Here is where I wrote device=C:\windows\himem.sys
>>>>> Then I hit alt F-S, which I thought you said it would save it, but it
>>>>> didn't,it brought up a search request. I esc out of that and hit
>>>>> alt-f-x and then it said it was saved. I then tried to reboot with no
>>>>> luck.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>> news:unp2qnhgIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> OK, typical "crash". Could be memory. Could be, though, that the
>>>>>> garbage is left over a previous run of SCANDISK. I'm running mental
>>>>>> scenarios and my own admittedly faulty memories tell me it's actually
>>>>>> common -- cross-linked files fixed but not the accompanying lost
>>>>>> clusters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But that's only one possibility. You need to follow the instructions
>>>>>> I already gave you to edit CONFIG.SYS, make sure where HIMEM.SYS is
>>>>>> located, etc. What are the results?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%23LgzgghgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> When I clicked on "view updates" I got a page fault msg. that had
>>>>>>> something about "ddhelp",then I got the blue screen.After that, I am
>>>>>>> not sure, I may have tried to reboot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:Ouz%23dJhgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> "POW"? Froze the screen? Rebooted itself? Died altogether as if the
>>>>>>>> cord was pulled?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:eNJba5ggIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Ok, Gary, I think I have been skipping around a little.
>>>>>>>>> 1. my machine will not start normally.
>>>>>>>>> 2.I can only go to option #5"command prompt only"(shift-f5)
>>>>>>>>> 3.when I run scanreg, I get the msg thats says"you do not have
>>>>>>>>> extended memory driver"
>>>>>>>>> 4.I got a critical update notice from MS and got online(dialup)
>>>>>>>>> and when I clicked on "view updates" POW!
>>>>>>>>> Is that better? I have made some other posts that may help or
>>>>>>>>> confuse further. We'll get this done!
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:e5PrWnggIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> OK, now I need to make sure what's what:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Your machine won't start normally, or will it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When you currently start, without a floppy boot disk, you get an
>>>>>>>>>> option "Command Prompt Only" and no other option? Or is that just
>>>>>>>>>> the one that's highlighted? Or are you simply trying to run
>>>>>>>>>> SCANREG?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is it only when you get the Command Prompt and run SCANREG that
>>>>>>>>>> you get the memory errors?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do you know what made your machine crashing the first place? Does
>>>>>>>>>> it do it often?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:%23C90PaggIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> ok guys, I am a little confused on the order of things that I am
>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to do.
>>>>>>>>>>> I did scanreg and it told me about the himem and extended memory
>>>>>>>>>>> driver.
>>>>>>>>>>> I have made a boot disk,(although I am not sure what to do with
>>>>>>>>>>> it and when.)
>>>>>>>>>>> I did the edit c:config.sys thing in the blue
>>>>>>>>>>> screen(C:config.sys on top) I added the "device" line here.
>>>>>>>>>>> When I did the alt-f-s , a search thing came up.I didnt know
>>>>>>>>>>> what to do then, so I esc and did alt f-x and it said it was
>>>>>>>>>>> saved.
>>>>>>>>>>> I use the reset button to restart and nothing is different.Still
>>>>>>>>>>> comes up in the setup with command prompt only highlighted.
>>>>>>>>>>> I am pretty good on the step-by-step concept, so if you can tell
>>>>>>>>>>> me what to do next, I would appreciate it.
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help,
>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23GIga$ZgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to get
>>>>>>>>>>>> a new line.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stop right here
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> diagnostic hints:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> show a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem, then continue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt
>>>>>>>>>>>>> part, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> exist. Unless you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> command is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you CAN input
>>>>>>>>>>>>> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL
>>>>>>>>>>>>> CAPS is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the end of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to help you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of course.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> command:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If
>>>>>>>>>>>>> error, quit
>>>>>>>>>>>>> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the file is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in older DOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 98/98SE systems --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue with the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> close the file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extended memory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driver. Something about himem.sys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It says to add line to boot drive:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> device=C:\windows\himem.sys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be covered on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> business.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "command prompt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean by "chose backup"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Gary,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based upon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arcania of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command Prompt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up in the mode
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #5 "command
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another, and all I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> started again. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command" on both.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "scanreg" the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>
 
Re: registry help,please!

I think what I am going to do now is this; put the hard drive into another
pc and copy important data to it and then put it back and then reinstall w98
and see what happens.
"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:eoP84B8gIHA.6032@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Well, there *is* a way to get the registry backup restored without using
> SCANREG, but I doubt my ability to guide you through the procedure.
> Involves various ways of using WinZip and a LOT of work.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
> news:ewsS0$6gIHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Gary,
>> Thanks for your help, I understand. This pc is not used for online use
>> very much, that's why I was kind of discounting the virus or malware
>> possibilty. I will, of course have to keep all options open though. If
>> something does occur to you,please jump back in.
>> Jim
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> news:ujESCj4gIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Well, we've made fairly certain that it's not hardware, that HIMEM.SYS
>>> isn't missing or messed up... I think you need to follow the track of
>>> that possible intruder for now. To be honest, I'm having one of my
>>> periodic medically derived losses of decent mental faculty and need to
>>> bow out of this diagnosis. I'll jump back in if anything comes up or
>>> occurs to me.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>
>>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uaJpaOtgIHA.4396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> OK, I got the alt's to work, and the device line is still there.
>>>> I also traded out some of the memory sticks with the same result.
>>>>
>>>> What next, please?
>>>>
>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>> news:Of55HOigIHA.4744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Run EDIT CONFIG.SYS command again and see if the DEVICE= line is still
>>>>> there.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uvvQ70hgIHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>I did what you said about the config.sys.(I think)
>>>>>> Here is what I did,
>>>>>> from C: I put dir C:\windows\himem.sys
>>>>>> I got a bunch of numbers,date, etc(if you need some of the
>>>>>> specifics,let me know and I will do it again)
>>>>>> Then I wrote edit C:\config.sys and a blue screen with "config.sys"
>>>>>> on top came up.
>>>>>> Here is where I wrote device=C:\windows\himem.sys
>>>>>> Then I hit alt F-S, which I thought you said it would save it, but it
>>>>>> didn't,it brought up a search request. I esc out of that and hit
>>>>>> alt-f-x and then it said it was saved. I then tried to reboot with no
>>>>>> luck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:unp2qnhgIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> OK, typical "crash". Could be memory. Could be, though, that the
>>>>>>> garbage is left over a previous run of SCANDISK. I'm running mental
>>>>>>> scenarios and my own admittedly faulty memories tell me it's
>>>>>>> actually common -- cross-linked files fixed but not the
>>>>>>> accompanying lost clusters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But that's only one possibility. You need to follow the instructions
>>>>>>> I already gave you to edit CONFIG.SYS, make sure where HIMEM.SYS is
>>>>>>> located, etc. What are the results?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:%23LgzgghgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> When I clicked on "view updates" I got a page fault msg. that had
>>>>>>>> something about "ddhelp",then I got the blue screen.After that, I
>>>>>>>> am not sure, I may have tried to reboot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:Ouz%23dJhgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> "POW"? Froze the screen? Rebooted itself? Died altogether as if
>>>>>>>>> the cord was pulled?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:eNJba5ggIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Ok, Gary, I think I have been skipping around a little.
>>>>>>>>>> 1. my machine will not start normally.
>>>>>>>>>> 2.I can only go to option #5"command prompt only"(shift-f5)
>>>>>>>>>> 3.when I run scanreg, I get the msg thats says"you do not have
>>>>>>>>>> extended memory driver"
>>>>>>>>>> 4.I got a critical update notice from MS and got online(dialup)
>>>>>>>>>> and when I clicked on "view updates" POW!
>>>>>>>>>> Is that better? I have made some other posts that may help or
>>>>>>>>>> confuse further. We'll get this done!
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:e5PrWnggIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> OK, now I need to make sure what's what:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Your machine won't start normally, or will it?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> When you currently start, without a floppy boot disk, you get an
>>>>>>>>>>> option "Command Prompt Only" and no other option? Or is that
>>>>>>>>>>> just the one that's highlighted? Or are you simply trying to run
>>>>>>>>>>> SCANREG?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is it only when you get the Command Prompt and run SCANREG that
>>>>>>>>>>> you get the memory errors?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know what made your machine crashing the first place?
>>>>>>>>>>> Does it do it often?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23C90PaggIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> ok guys, I am a little confused on the order of things that I
>>>>>>>>>>>> am supposed to do.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I did scanreg and it told me about the himem and extended
>>>>>>>>>>>> memory driver.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have made a boot disk,(although I am not sure what to do with
>>>>>>>>>>>> it and when.)
>>>>>>>>>>>> I did the edit c:config.sys thing in the blue
>>>>>>>>>>>> screen(C:config.sys on top) I added the "device" line here.
>>>>>>>>>>>> When I did the alt-f-s , a search thing came up.I didnt know
>>>>>>>>>>>> what to do then, so I esc and did alt f-x and it said it was
>>>>>>>>>>>> saved.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I use the reset button to restart and nothing is
>>>>>>>>>>>> different.Still comes up in the setup with command prompt only
>>>>>>>>>>>> highlighted.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am pretty good on the step-by-step concept, so if you can
>>>>>>>>>>>> tell me what to do next, I would appreciate it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23GIga$ZgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get a new line.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stop right here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diagnostic hints:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem, then continue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exist. Unless you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you CAN input
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CAPS is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the end of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to help you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of course.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> error, quit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the file is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elsewhere in older DOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 98/98SE systems --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue with the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> close the file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extended memory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driver. Something about himem.sys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It says to add line to boot drive:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> device=C:\windows\himem.sys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be covered on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> business.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "command prompt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know what you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean by "chose backup"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Gary,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based upon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arcania of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command Prompt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up in the mode
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> #5 "command
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another, and all I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> started again. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command" on both.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "scanreg" the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
 
Re: registry help,please!

That's about the method I'd use. But, I wouldn't assume the need to
reinstall Win98, yet. Just get the backup files out of the CAB, put them
where they belong. See if it works. I kind of doubt it, but it's something
to do to cover the bases while we think of something else less drastic than
the reinstall option. I'm just not a big fan of reinstall over the top,
using it only to retrieve files before a clean reinstall. AFAIC, a reinstall
over the top results in a mess that can never be adequately secure, never
mind reliable.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
news:uQU%23Gx8gIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I think what I am going to do now is this; put the hard drive into another
>pc and copy important data to it and then put it back and then reinstall
>w98 and see what happens.
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:eoP84B8gIHA.6032@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Well, there *is* a way to get the registry backup restored without using
>> SCANREG, but I doubt my ability to guide you through the procedure.
>> Involves various ways of using WinZip and a LOT of work.
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>> www.grystmill.com
>>
>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
>> news:ewsS0$6gIHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Gary,
>>> Thanks for your help, I understand. This pc is not used for online use
>>> very much, that's why I was kind of discounting the virus or malware
>>> possibilty. I will, of course have to keep all options open though. If
>>> something does occur to you,please jump back in.
>>> Jim
>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>> news:ujESCj4gIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Well, we've made fairly certain that it's not hardware, that HIMEM.SYS
>>>> isn't missing or messed up... I think you need to follow the track of
>>>> that possible intruder for now. To be honest, I'm having one of my
>>>> periodic medically derived losses of decent mental faculty and need to
>>>> bow out of this diagnosis. I'll jump back in if anything comes up or
>>>> occurs to me.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>
>>>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:uaJpaOtgIHA.4396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> OK, I got the alt's to work, and the device line is still there.
>>>>> I also traded out some of the memory sticks with the same result.
>>>>>
>>>>> What next, please?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Of55HOigIHA.4744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Run EDIT CONFIG.SYS command again and see if the DEVICE= line is
>>>>>> still there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uvvQ70hgIHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>I did what you said about the config.sys.(I think)
>>>>>>> Here is what I did,
>>>>>>> from C: I put dir C:\windows\himem.sys
>>>>>>> I got a bunch of numbers,date, etc(if you need some of the
>>>>>>> specifics,let me know and I will do it again)
>>>>>>> Then I wrote edit C:\config.sys and a blue screen with "config.sys"
>>>>>>> on top came up.
>>>>>>> Here is where I wrote device=C:\windows\himem.sys
>>>>>>> Then I hit alt F-S, which I thought you said it would save it, but
>>>>>>> it didn't,it brought up a search request. I esc out of that and hit
>>>>>>> alt-f-x and then it said it was saved. I then tried to reboot with
>>>>>>> no luck.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:unp2qnhgIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> OK, typical "crash". Could be memory. Could be, though, that the
>>>>>>>> garbage is left over a previous run of SCANDISK. I'm running mental
>>>>>>>> scenarios and my own admittedly faulty memories tell me it's
>>>>>>>> actually common -- cross-linked files fixed but not the
>>>>>>>> accompanying lost clusters.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But that's only one possibility. You need to follow the
>>>>>>>> instructions I already gave you to edit CONFIG.SYS, make sure where
>>>>>>>> HIMEM.SYS is located, etc. What are the results?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:%23LgzgghgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> When I clicked on "view updates" I got a page fault msg. that had
>>>>>>>>> something about "ddhelp",then I got the blue screen.After that, I
>>>>>>>>> am not sure, I may have tried to reboot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:Ouz%23dJhgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> "POW"? Froze the screen? Rebooted itself? Died altogether as if
>>>>>>>>>> the cord was pulled?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:eNJba5ggIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, Gary, I think I have been skipping around a little.
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. my machine will not start normally.
>>>>>>>>>>> 2.I can only go to option #5"command prompt only"(shift-f5)
>>>>>>>>>>> 3.when I run scanreg, I get the msg thats says"you do not have
>>>>>>>>>>> extended memory driver"
>>>>>>>>>>> 4.I got a critical update notice from MS and got online(dialup)
>>>>>>>>>>> and when I clicked on "view updates" POW!
>>>>>>>>>>> Is that better? I have made some other posts that may help or
>>>>>>>>>>> confuse further. We'll get this done!
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:e5PrWnggIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, now I need to make sure what's what:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Your machine won't start normally, or will it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When you currently start, without a floppy boot disk, you get
>>>>>>>>>>>> an option "Command Prompt Only" and no other option? Or is that
>>>>>>>>>>>> just the one that's highlighted? Or are you simply trying to
>>>>>>>>>>>> run SCANREG?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it only when you get the Command Prompt and run SCANREG that
>>>>>>>>>>>> you get the memory errors?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know what made your machine crashing the first place?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does it do it often?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23C90PaggIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok guys, I am a little confused on the order of things that I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> am supposed to do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did scanreg and it told me about the himem and extended
>>>>>>>>>>>>> memory driver.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have made a boot disk,(although I am not sure what to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it and when.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did the edit c:config.sys thing in the blue
>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen(C:config.sys on top) I added the "device" line here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I did the alt-f-s , a search thing came up.I didnt know
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what to do then, so I esc and did alt f-x and it said it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> saved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use the reset button to restart and nothing is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> different.Still comes up in the setup with command prompt only
>>>>>>>>>>>>> highlighted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am pretty good on the step-by-step concept, so if you can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell me what to do next, I would appreciate it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23GIga$ZgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get a new line.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stop right here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diagnostic hints:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't show a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem, then continue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prompt part, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exist. Unless you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but you CAN input
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CAPS is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the end of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way to help you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of course.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If error, quit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the file is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elsewhere in older DOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 98/98SE systems --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue with the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> close the file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extended memory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driver. Something about himem.sys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It says to add line to boot drive:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> device=C:\windows\himem.sys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this be covered on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> business.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "command prompt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know what you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean by "chose backup"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Gary,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> backup based upon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arcania of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command Prompt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up in the mode
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The #5 "command
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another, and all I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> started again. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command" on both.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "scanreg" the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

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Re: registry help,please!

OK, Gary, I will try to copy files to my other pc hard drive and then hold
off on the reinstall.
Thanks,
Jim
"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:%237qOXA9gIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> That's about the method I'd use. But, I wouldn't assume the need to
> reinstall Win98, yet. Just get the backup files out of the CAB, put them
> where they belong. See if it works. I kind of doubt it, but it's something
> to do to cover the bases while we think of something else less drastic
> than the reinstall option. I'm just not a big fan of reinstall over the
> top, using it only to retrieve files before a clean reinstall. AFAIC, a
> reinstall over the top results in a mess that can never be adequately
> secure, never mind reliable.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/User
> www.grystmill.com
>
> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
> news:uQU%23Gx8gIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I think what I am going to do now is this; put the hard drive into another
>>pc and copy important data to it and then put it back and then reinstall
>>w98 and see what happens.
>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>> news:eoP84B8gIHA.6032@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Well, there *is* a way to get the registry backup restored without using
>>> SCANREG, but I doubt my ability to guide you through the procedure.
>>> Involves various ways of using WinZip and a LOT of work.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>
>>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ewsS0$6gIHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Gary,
>>>> Thanks for your help, I understand. This pc is not used for online use
>>>> very much, that's why I was kind of discounting the virus or malware
>>>> possibilty. I will, of course have to keep all options open though. If
>>>> something does occur to you,please jump back in.
>>>> Jim
>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>> news:ujESCj4gIHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Well, we've made fairly certain that it's not hardware, that HIMEM.SYS
>>>>> isn't missing or messed up... I think you need to follow the track of
>>>>> that possible intruder for now. To be honest, I'm having one of my
>>>>> periodic medically derived losses of decent mental faculty and need to
>>>>> bow out of this diagnosis. I'll jump back in if anything comes up or
>>>>> occurs to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uaJpaOtgIHA.4396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> OK, I got the alt's to work, and the device line is still there.
>>>>>> I also traded out some of the memory sticks with the same result.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What next, please?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Of55HOigIHA.4744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Run EDIT CONFIG.SYS command again and see if the DEVICE= line is
>>>>>>> still there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:uvvQ70hgIHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>I did what you said about the config.sys.(I think)
>>>>>>>> Here is what I did,
>>>>>>>> from C: I put dir C:\windows\himem.sys
>>>>>>>> I got a bunch of numbers,date, etc(if you need some of the
>>>>>>>> specifics,let me know and I will do it again)
>>>>>>>> Then I wrote edit C:\config.sys and a blue screen with
>>>>>>>> "config.sys" on top came up.
>>>>>>>> Here is where I wrote device=C:\windows\himem.sys
>>>>>>>> Then I hit alt F-S, which I thought you said it would save it, but
>>>>>>>> it didn't,it brought up a search request. I esc out of that and hit
>>>>>>>> alt-f-x and then it said it was saved. I then tried to reboot with
>>>>>>>> no luck.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:unp2qnhgIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> OK, typical "crash". Could be memory. Could be, though, that the
>>>>>>>>> garbage is left over a previous run of SCANDISK. I'm running
>>>>>>>>> mental scenarios and my own admittedly faulty memories tell me
>>>>>>>>> it's actually common -- cross-linked files fixed but not the
>>>>>>>>> accompanying lost clusters.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But that's only one possibility. You need to follow the
>>>>>>>>> instructions I already gave you to edit CONFIG.SYS, make sure
>>>>>>>>> where HIMEM.SYS is located, etc. What are the results?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:%23LgzgghgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> When I clicked on "view updates" I got a page fault msg. that had
>>>>>>>>>> something about "ddhelp",then I got the blue screen.After that, I
>>>>>>>>>> am not sure, I may have tried to reboot.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:Ouz%23dJhgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>> "POW"? Froze the screen? Rebooted itself? Died altogether as if
>>>>>>>>>>> the cord was pulled?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:eNJba5ggIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, Gary, I think I have been skipping around a little.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. my machine will not start normally.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.I can only go to option #5"command prompt only"(shift-f5)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.when I run scanreg, I get the msg thats says"you do not have
>>>>>>>>>>>> extended memory driver"
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.I got a critical update notice from MS and got online(dialup)
>>>>>>>>>>>> and when I clicked on "view updates" POW!
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that better? I have made some other posts that may help or
>>>>>>>>>>>> confuse further. We'll get this done!
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:e5PrWnggIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, now I need to make sure what's what:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your machine won't start normally, or will it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When you currently start, without a floppy boot disk, you get
>>>>>>>>>>>>> an option "Command Prompt Only" and no other option? Or is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that just the one that's highlighted? Or are you simply trying
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to run SCANREG?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it only when you get the Command Prompt and run SCANREG
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you get the memory errors?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know what made your machine crashing the first place?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does it do it often?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23C90PaggIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok guys, I am a little confused on the order of things that I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am supposed to do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did scanreg and it told me about the himem and extended
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> memory driver.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have made a boot disk,(although I am not sure what to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it and when.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did the edit c:config.sys thing in the blue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen(C:config.sys on top) I added the "device" line here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When I did the alt-f-s , a search thing came up.I didnt know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what to do then, so I esc and did alt f-x and it said it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use the reset button to restart and nothing is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different.Still comes up in the setup with command prompt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only highlighted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am pretty good on the step-by-step concept, so if you can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell me what to do next, I would appreciate it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23GIga$ZgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line:)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get a new line.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stop right here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diagnostic hints:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't show a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem, then continue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prompt part, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exist. Unless you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but you CAN input
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ALL CAPS is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the end of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way to help you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disk, of course.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this command:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If error, quit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the file is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elsewhere in older DOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 98/98SE systems --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue with the following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line:)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to close the file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> extended memory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> driver. Something about himem.sys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It says to add line to boot drive:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> device=C:\windows\himem.sys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this be covered on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for business.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "command prompt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know what you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean by "chose backup"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Gary,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> backup based upon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arcania of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command Prompt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.grystmill.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> came up in the mode
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The #5 "command
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another, and all I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> started again. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command" on both.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "scanreg" the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are the other two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

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