Windows Vista OEM

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Re: OEM

Yea, another guy also told the boss he could make the weekly staff meeting
PowerPoint charts say what ever he wanted the big boss to see too.


"Ronnie Vernon MVP" <rv@invalid.org> wrote in message
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> "DM" <themusgravefamily@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Many thanks to all. I have come to the conclusion that, as an amateur, I
>> will not purchase any OEM products; especially from eBay.
>>
>> Also, I was once told that over 60% of all statistics are inaccurate.
>> Figure that one out!
>
> DM
>
> I heard that it's more like 90%.
>
> Of course, that depends on who funded the study, who published the study,
> and who quoted the study. :))
>
> --
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Desktop Experience
>
 
Re: OEM

NoStop wrote:
> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>
>> Never purchase software on eBay! It has been found that over
>> 50% of the software offered for sale on auction web sites is
>> actually misrepresented, counterfeit and thus useless!
>>
> And just who found this out? What a bunch of FUD. How can anyone possibly
> come up with this kind of statistic?
>
> Cheers.
>

Don't hold your breath for a reply from Carey, he never backs up what he
says.

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Re: OEM

Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
> In tests conducted by Microsoft of 115 copies of physical media purchased on eBay,
> 39 percent were found to be counterfeit, and another 12 percent contained software
> that was either counterfeit or had been tampered with. Overall, the study found, the
> chances of purchasing genuine, legally licensed Microsoft software on eBay is less than 50 percent.
>
> Ref: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/oct06/10-31AuctionEnforcementPR.mspx
>
> IDC Research: http://www.idc.com/research/reshome.jsp
>

Wow, I'm impressed you bothered responding at all. To bad it was with a
source full of FUD!

--
"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on
free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the
creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
- Maura Corbett

--
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Re: OEM

Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

> In tests conducted by Microsoft of 115 copies of physical media purchased
> on eBay, 39 percent were found to be counterfeit, and another 12 percent
> contained software that was either counterfeit or had been tampered with.
> Overall, the study found, the chances of purchasing genuine, legally
> licensed Microsoft software on eBay is less than 50 percent.
>
And you believe Microsoft when it comes to their "statistics"? You're one
sad mofo. Guess that's how you won your MVP "award".

Cheers.

> Ref:
>
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/oct06/10-31AuctionEnforcementPR.mspx
>
> IDC Research: http://www.idc.com/research/reshome.jsp
>

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Be Afraid ... Be Very Afraid ... of Francis' RELATIVES!

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm
 
Re: OEM

Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:
>
>> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>>
>>> In tests conducted by Microsoft
>>
>>
>> Enough said, the tests are invalid as are most of Carey's posts.
>>
>> Alias
>
> Yeah, right...here we have our resident lying linux troll saying that
> test conducted by MS and posted by Carey are invalid.
> Your hatred for MS knows no boundaries does it?

Our knowledge of what a weasel Microsoft has been and continues to be, is
all the proof we need to question Microsoft's claims about anything. They
lie almost as much as you do Francis.

> Frank

Cheers.

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Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

Be Afraid ... Be Very Afraid ... of Francis' RELATIVES!

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm
 
Re: OEM

Bob F. wrote:

> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uRxMXSsgIHA.4744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> In tests conducted by Microsoft of 115 copies of physical media purchased
>> on eBay,
>> 39 percent were found to be counterfeit, and another 12 percent contained
>> software
>> that was either counterfeit or had been tampered with. Overall, the study
>> found, the
>> chances of purchasing genuine, legally licensed Microsoft software on
>> eBay is less than 50 percent.
>>
>> Ref:
>>
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/oct06/10-31AuctionEnforcementPR.mspx
>>
>> IDC Research: http://www.idc.com/research/reshome.jsp
>>
>> --
>> Carey Frisch
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "Slap" wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uCU8FzqgIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Never purchase software on eBay! It has been found that over
>>> 50% of the software offered for sale on auction web sites is
>>> actually misrepresented, counterfeit and thus useless!
>>>
>>> Carey Frisch
>>
>> So says Carey. I'm dave and say otherwise. My info is coming off the
>> top
>> of my head. Carey, your info is coming from where? Keep in mind studies
>> can be misleading but we can make up our own mind on them.
>>
>> There is feedback on the seller that one can read and decide if the
>> software
>> is worth purchasing.
>
>
> This is a FUD campaign. E-bay is a buyer beware operation. The
> attraction
> is for good buys. You must use the system features to your benefit to
> reduce the odds of getting burnt. I bought at least 20 copies of XP
> upgrades and never had a bad transaction. You have to be careful. If you
> don't know the system, then and only then I would not recommend dealing.
>
Strange how that is the experience of most purchasers, but when Microsoft
does the same, it found all those problems. Really, no one with half a
brain (obviously that excludes Francis) believes anything that Microsoft
has to say, or the MVP's that suck up to Microsoft.

Cheers.

--
What does Bill Gates use?
http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

Be Afraid ... Be Very Afraid ... of Francis' RELATIVES!

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm
 
Re: OEM

I have NEVER bought a retail version of windows. All OEM on eBay.
Including 1 WIN 98 3 XP's and 1 Vista.
Buy from a dealer with decent feedback who has sold other copies of Vista
that you want.

I have transferred licenses from WIN 98 and Two XP licensees.
When and IF you have you have to do phone activation, tell them your HDD
died.
Not sure how this would pan out for Vista though.
Honest? Maybe not, but fair? I think so.

"DM" <themusgravefamily@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Op8mKrhgIHA.320@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I posted the below in XP's help_and_support forum but I don't think that
>forum is watched as much as this vista one is. The core question can be
>answered as if I were doing this with a vista product.
>
> --------original post-------------------
>
> I want to purchase XP Pro w/ SP2 from someone on eBay. They claim it is
> "Brand New! Genuine from Microsoft! w/ TECH Support"
>
> The only thing is it is an OEM version.
>
> I've never bought an operating system by it's self without being
> preinstalled before. Will this OEM version work for me? What are the
> limitations on OEM versions?
>
> I am replacing my current XP Pro operating system with a new one because I
> locked the system up by playing with the security policy. Yea, dumb but I
> was learning and got carried away.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
> Frank and Alias please remain calm with this one. You're having enough fun
> with other posts. You know, I bet you're both either the same person or
> programmers/gamers sitting across the room/town from one another just
> having fun. You know there are more appropriate forums for you two with
> the language you use. Give it a break for a few weeks, at least a day in
> between each post. Hearing the same words over and over on multiple posts
> is getting old. Like a couple of us mentioned yesterday, it's entertaining
> to have a structured/level headed debate but it gets old once the
> profanity comes out and you keep spinning your wheels. My thoughts and you
> MICROSOFT given rights to be here.
 
Re: OEM

BS. I have NEVER bought software anyplace else.

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:uCU8FzqgIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Never purchase software on eBay! It has been found that over
> 50% of the software offered for sale on auction web sites is
> actually misrepresented, counterfeit and thus useless!
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "DM" wrote:
>
> I posted the below in XP's help_and_support forum but I don't think that
> forum is watched as much as this vista one is. The core question can be
> answered as if I were doing this with a vista product.
>
> --------original post-------------------
>
> I want to purchase XP Pro w/ SP2 from someone on eBay. They claim it is
> "Brand New! Genuine from Microsoft! w/ TECH Support"
>
> The only thing is it is an OEM version.
>
> I've never bought an operating system by it's self without being
> preinstalled before. Will this OEM version work for me? What are the
> limitations on OEM versions?
>
> I am replacing my current XP Pro operating system with a new one because I
> locked the system up by playing with the security policy. Yea, dumb but I
> was learning and got carried away.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
> Frank and Alias please remain calm with this one. You're having enough fun
> with other posts. You know, I bet you're both either the same person or
> programmers/gamers sitting across the room/town from one another just
> having
> fun. You know there are more appropriate forums for you two with the
> language you use. Give it a break for a few weeks, at least a day in
> between
> each post. Hearing the same words over and over on multiple posts is
> getting
> old. Like a couple of us mentioned yesterday, it's entertaining to have a
> structured/level headed debate but it gets old once the profanity comes
> out
> and you keep spinning your wheels. My thoughts and you MICROSOFT given
> rights to be here.
>
 
Re: OEM

BS. More FUD from Micro$oft.

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:uRxMXSsgIHA.4744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> In tests conducted by Microsoft of 115 copies of physical media purchased
> on eBay,
> 39 percent were found to be counterfeit, and another 12 percent contained
> software
> that was either counterfeit or had been tampered with. Overall, the study
> found, the
> chances of purchasing genuine, legally licensed Microsoft software on eBay
> is less than 50 percent.
>
> Ref:
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/oct06/10-31AuctionEnforcementPR.mspx
>
> IDC Research: http://www.idc.com/research/reshome.jsp
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Slap" wrote:
>
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uCU8FzqgIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Never purchase software on eBay! It has been found that over
>> 50% of the software offered for sale on auction web sites is
>> actually misrepresented, counterfeit and thus useless!
>>
>> Carey Frisch
>
> So says Carey. I'm dave and say otherwise. My info is coming off the top
> of my head. Carey, your info is coming from where? Keep in mind studies
> can be misleading but we can make up our own mind on them.
>
> There is feedback on the seller that one can read and decide if the
> software
> is worth purchasing.
>
 
Re: OEM

NoStop wrote:
> Bob F. wrote:
>
>
>>"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:uRxMXSsgIHA.4744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>In tests conducted by Microsoft of 115 copies of physical media purchased
>>>on eBay,
>>>39 percent were found to be counterfeit, and another 12 percent contained
>>>software
>>>that was either counterfeit or had been tampered with. Overall, the study
>>>found, the
>>>chances of purchasing genuine, legally licensed Microsoft software on
>>>eBay is less than 50 percent.
>>>
>>>Ref:
>>>
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/oct06/10-31AuctionEnforcementPR.mspx
>
>>>IDC Research: http://www.idc.com/research/reshome.jsp
>>>
>>>--
>>>Carey Frisch
>>>Microsoft MVP
>>>Windows Shell/User
>>>
>>>---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>"Slap" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:uCU8FzqgIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>>Never purchase software on eBay! It has been found that over
>>>>50% of the software offered for sale on auction web sites is
>>>>actually misrepresented, counterfeit and thus useless!
>>>>
>>>>Carey Frisch
>>>
>>>So says Carey. I'm dave and say otherwise. My info is coming off the
>>>top
>>>of my head. Carey, your info is coming from where? Keep in mind studies
>>>can be misleading but we can make up our own mind on them.
>>>
>>>There is feedback on the seller that one can read and decide if the
>>>software
>>>is worth purchasing.
>>
>>
>>This is a FUD campaign. E-bay is a buyer beware operation. The
>>attraction
>>is for good buys. You must use the system features to your benefit to
>>reduce the odds of getting burnt. I bought at least 20 copies of XP
>>upgrades and never had a bad transaction. You have to be careful. If you
>>don't know the system, then and only then I would not recommend dealing.
>>
>
> Strange how that is the experience of most purchasers, but when Microsoft
> does the same, it found all those problems. Really, no one with half a
> brain (obviously that excludes Francis) believes anything that Microsoft
> has to say, or the MVP's that suck up to Microsoft.
>
> Cheers.
>
Why are you here? You're sick and consumed by your hatred of MS. I also
notice that I'm in control of your emotions...how wonderful huh?
You must be one dumb POS!
Frank
 
Re: OEM

NoStop wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>
>>Alias wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>In tests conducted by Microsoft
>>>
>>>
>>>Enough said, the tests are invalid as are most of Carey's posts.
>>>
>>>Alias
>>
>>Yeah, right...here we have our resident lying linux troll saying that
>>test conducted by MS and posted by Carey are invalid.
>>Your hatred for MS knows no boundaries does it?
>
>
> Our knowledge of what a weasel Microsoft has been and continues to be, is
> all the proof we need to question Microsoft's claims about anything. They
> lie almost as much as you do Francis.
>
>
>>Frank
>
>
> Cheers.
>
Why are you here? You're sick and consumed by your hatred of MS. I also
notice that I'm in control of your emotions...how wonderful huh?
You must be one dumb POS!
Frank
 
Re: OEM

NoStop wrote:

> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>
>
>>In tests conducted by Microsoft of 115 copies of physical media purchased
>>on eBay, 39 percent were found to be counterfeit, and another 12 percent
>>contained software that was either counterfeit or had been tampered with.
>>Overall, the study found, the chances of purchasing genuine, legally
>>licensed Microsoft software on eBay is less than 50 percent.
>>
>
> And you believe Microsoft when it comes to their "statistics"? You're one
> sad mofo. Guess that's how you won your MVP "award".
>
> Cheers.
>
>
>>Ref:
>>
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/oct06/10-31AuctionEnforcementPR.mspx
>
>>IDC Research: http://www.idc.com/research/reshome.jsp
>>
>
>
Why are you here? You're sick and consumed by your hatred of MS. I also
notice that I'm ion control of your emotions...how wonderful huh?
You must be one dumb POS!
Frank
 
Re: OEM


"Frank" <fb@jr.kmo> wrote in message
news:OMJ9qTvgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> NoStop wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In tests conducted by Microsoft
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Enough said, the tests are invalid as are most of Carey's posts.
>>>>
>>>>Alias
>>>
>>>Yeah, right...here we have our resident lying linux troll saying that
>>>test conducted by MS and posted by Carey are invalid.
>>>Your hatred for MS knows no boundaries does it?
>>
>>
>> Our knowledge of what a weasel Microsoft has been and continues to be, is
>> all the proof we need to question Microsoft's claims about anything. They
>> lie almost as much as you do Francis.
>>
>>
>>>Frank
>>
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
> Why are you here? You're sick and consumed by your hatred of MS. I also
> notice that I'm in control of your emotions...how wonderful huh?
> You must be one dumb POS!
> Frank
>

Control of your emotions?? Your kidding right??
YOU are the one who started an entire thread and keeps whining.
 
Re: OEM

Frank wrote:

> NoStop wrote:
>
>> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In tests conducted by Microsoft of 115 copies of physical media purchased
>>>on eBay, 39 percent were found to be counterfeit, and another 12 percent
>>>contained software that was either counterfeit or had been tampered with.
>>>Overall, the study found, the chances of purchasing genuine, legally
>>>licensed Microsoft software on eBay is less than 50 percent.
>>>
>>
>> And you believe Microsoft when it comes to their "statistics"? You're one
>> sad mofo. Guess that's how you won your MVP "award".
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>
>>>Ref:
>>>
>>
>>
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2006/oct06/10-31AuctionEnforcementPR.mspx
>>
>>>IDC Research: http://www.idc.com/research/reshome.jsp
>>>
>>
>>
> Why are you here? You're sick and consumed by your hatred of MS. I also
> notice that I'm ion control of your emotions...how wonderful huh?
> You must be one dumb POS!
> Frank

Tonight is going to be great Francis. Yummmy! They're serving steamed Kraft
Dinner for supper at the Institution tonight. Enjoy!

Oh yeh, don't remove that cork from your fork. It's there to protect you
when you miss your mouth and hit an eyeball.

Remember, it's lights out at 9PM. Then you can get back to that fun stuff
you like to do with your buddy Bill Yawn. You might even get to be
the "top" tonight if you ask him nicely.

Cheers.

--
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http://tinyurl.com/2zxhdl

Proprietary Software: a 20th Century software business model.

Be Afraid ... Be Very Afraid ... of Francis' RELATIVES!

Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/compost.htm
 
Re: OEM

Jim wrote:
>
> "Frank" <fb@jr.kmo> wrote in message
> news:OMJ9qTvgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
>> NoStop wrote:
>>
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> In tests conducted by Microsoft
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Enough said, the tests are invalid as are most of Carey's posts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, right...here we have our resident lying linux troll saying that
>>>> test conducted by MS and posted by Carey are invalid.
>>>> Your hatred for MS knows no boundaries does it?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Our knowledge of what a weasel Microsoft has been and continues to
>>> be, is
>>> all the proof we need to question Microsoft's claims about anything.
>>> They
>>> lie almost as much as you do Francis.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>>>
>> Why are you here? You're sick and consumed by your hatred of MS. I
>> also notice that I'm in control of your emotions...how wonderful huh?
>> You must be one dumb POS!
>> Frank
>>
>
> Control of your emotions?? Your kidding right??
> YOU are the one who started an entire thread and keeps whining.

Wrong you stupid POS lying mf'er!
You're an idiot!
You're butt-buddy alias started it!
As*hole!
Frank
 
Re: OEM


"Frank" <fb@jr.kmo> wrote in message
news:epna3nvgIHA.1188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Jim wrote:
>>
>> "Frank" <fb@jr.kmo> wrote in message
>> news:OMJ9qTvgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> NoStop wrote:
>>>
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In tests conducted by Microsoft
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enough said, the tests are invalid as are most of Carey's posts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, right...here we have our resident lying linux troll saying that
>>>>> test conducted by MS and posted by Carey are invalid.
>>>>> Your hatred for MS knows no boundaries does it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Our knowledge of what a weasel Microsoft has been and continues to be,
>>>> is
>>>> all the proof we need to question Microsoft's claims about anything.
>>>> They
>>>> lie almost as much as you do Francis.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers.
>>>>
>>> Why are you here? You're sick and consumed by your hatred of MS. I also
>>> notice that I'm in control of your emotions...how wonderful huh?
>>> You must be one dumb POS!
>>> Frank
>>>
>>
>> Control of your emotions?? Your kidding right??
>> YOU are the one who started an entire thread and keeps whining.
>
> Wrong you stupid POS lying mf'er!
> You're an idiot!
> You're butt-buddy alias started it!
> As*hole!
> Frank

> You're butt-buddy alias started it!>

And it's up to you to finish it Mr. Balless
How about it?
 
Re: OEM

You can manipulate statistics in many ways.
It's all about perspective.

Like a tree full of Monkeys
If you are the top monkey and look down, you see all smiling faces trying to
climb to where you are.
If you're the bottom monkey, looking up, all you see are butts.

And, yes, 5 out of 4 people have trouble with fractions and statistics.
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"Ronnie Vernon MVP" <rv@invalid.org> wrote in message
news:31167430-998F-49ED-A0C0-DB807103FF49@microsoft.com...
> "DM" <themusgravefamily@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OUOIPZtgIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Many thanks to all. I have come to the conclusion that, as an amateur, I
>> will not purchase any OEM products; especially from eBay.
>>
>> Also, I was once told that over 60% of all statistics are inaccurate.
>> Figure that one out!
>
> DM
>
> I heard that it's more like 90%.
>
> Of course, that depends on who funded the study, who published the study,
> and who quoted the study. :))
>
> --
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Desktop Experience
>
 
Re: OEM

Frank wrote:
> Jim wrote:
>>
>> "Frank" <fb@jr.kmo> wrote in message
>> news:OMJ9qTvgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> NoStop wrote:
>>>
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In tests conducted by Microsoft
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enough said, the tests are invalid as are most of Carey's posts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, right...here we have our resident lying linux troll saying that
>>>>> test conducted by MS and posted by Carey are invalid.
>>>>> Your hatred for MS knows no boundaries does it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Our knowledge of what a weasel Microsoft has been and continues to
>>>> be, is
>>>> all the proof we need to question Microsoft's claims about anything.
>>>> They
>>>> lie almost as much as you do Francis.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers.
>>>>
>>> Why are you here? You're sick and consumed by your hatred of MS. I
>>> also notice that I'm in control of your emotions...how wonderful huh?
>>> You must be one dumb POS!
>>> Frank
>>>
>>
>> Control of your emotions?? Your kidding right??
>> YOU are the one who started an entire thread and keeps whining.
>
> Wrong you stupid POS lying mf'er!
> You're an idiot!
> You're butt-buddy alias started it!
> As*hole!
> Frank

Not true. DM started the thread.

Alias
 
Re: OEM

"DM" <themusgravefamily@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23NHnzrtgIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I have been thinking of this issue for a while. Not only for Microsoft but
>for any software.
>
> Any hardware, appliance, DVD, cd, vhs, furniture, house, car, etc. we can
> buy/sell/trade to anyone but not software. Why is it that most digital
> products with licenses cant be yard saled away like ma's old sewing
> machine? What happened to the 9/10 rule? My car has a title, license if
> you will, and I can sell it to anyone. My autographed babe ruth card has a
> certificate of authenticity, license if you will, and I can sell it.

DM

The difference is that you buy a 'license' to 'use' the software.

There are differences between buying a license to use a product as opposed
to buying the product. Just like you cannot copy or sell the license you
buy for your car or use that license for other cars that you own, software
has the same restriction.Software is considered to be intellectual property.

The difference between the OEM license and the Retail license is that the
OEM license is sold to a vendor, at a substantial discount. In return for
this discount the OEM software can only be installed on one computer.

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Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience
 
Re: OEM

Ronnie Vernon MVP wrote:
> "DM" <themusgravefamily@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23NHnzrtgIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> I have been thinking of this issue for a while. Not only for Microsoft
>> but for any software.
>>
>> Any hardware, appliance, DVD, cd, vhs, furniture, house, car, etc. we
>> can buy/sell/trade to anyone but not software. Why is it that most
>> digital products with licenses cant be yard saled away like ma's old
>> sewing machine? What happened to the 9/10 rule? My car has a title,
>> license if you will, and I can sell it to anyone. My autographed babe
>> ruth card has a certificate of authenticity, license if you will, and
>> I can sell it.
>
> DM
>
> The difference is that you buy a 'license' to 'use' the software.

Yet every single retail store, on line or mortar, says they sell
"software" and not a word about licenses. Naturally, people think they
are buying software and are surprised to find out they have been conned
by Ye Olde Bait and Switch.

Snip FUD to support the License Bait and Switch Con.

Alias
 
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