Windows Vista Delurking: My opinion about this group and its mental patients

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Re: Delurking: My opinion about this group and its mental patients

Donald L McDaniel wrote:

> Who are you talking about, Kurt? Yourself? You are one of the biggest
> "trolls" of all.
>
> Perhaps YOU should leave this group, and never come back. Then perhaps
> more peace will reign here.


Huh? Ya'll created this mess of a group with any help from me, Donald.

In xp.gen, yeah I used to cause quite the ruckus, but I tried to keep on-
topic as much as possible. I've had nothing to do with this group up
until now, so don't you dare blame me for this hell-hole you've helped to
create.

This mess of a group, seems to be just another battlefield in the Troll
Wars. Not a place to learn about MS and it OS Vista, whether Pro or Con.

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Former Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
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Re: Delurking: My opinion about this group and its mental patients

Alias wrote:

> That would depend on the average computer user. Which is more difficult,
> learning Vista or Ubuntu?


Just for having to learn to use terminal, that makes Vista the winner,
when it comes to the "average" computer user, IMNSHO.

--
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"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
 
Re: Delurking: My opinion about this group and its mental patients



"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:9JUBj.11423$2L5.6708@fe28.usenetserver.com...
> Frank wrote:
>
>> On the Bridge! wrote:
>>> I have been part of MS newsgroups for years. I have NEVER seen such
>>> crap in any other Microsoft newsgroup,
>>> like I have seen in here. I have never seen a collection of such IDIOTS
>>> in one Microsoft newsgroup ever.
>>>
>>> I will give you a GOOD reason this newsgroup is different.

>>
>> ..hey cc, you're a part of the problem, not a part of the solution.
>> Frank

>
> . . . . said the pot to the kettle.
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Former Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"


Frank is the only one using curse words.
I have tried linux too. I have a multimedia card (Hauppauge HVR 1600) that
does not work under Linux so I use windows.
If you will pardon me, I have just downloaded Vista Service Pack 1 and am
about to see if it work.
Not beta, or RC. It’s the real deal.
 
Re: Delurking: My opinion about this group and its mental patients

iagreewithyou wrote:

> iagreewithyou -- it is too bad that so much hurtful bantering has to go
> on. it only downgrades the person saying it and makes themselves no
> better than the other one. You have all put yourselves into the same
> sinking boat and you know who you are.


Actually, I've nothing against arguments getting personal or hurtful, as
long as the arguments themselves have something to do with the group.

Most of the problems here have to do with ego-maniacal trolls, who could
care less about MS, Vista, or the people coming here just looking for a
little help, and are just here to virtually & publicly masturbate,
because they are so limp in real life, that they cannot even get
themselves off physically in private.

--
Peace!
Kurt
Former Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
 
Re: Delurking: My opinion about this group and its mental patients

kurttrail wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> That would depend on the average computer user. Which is more difficult,
>> learning Vista or Ubuntu?

>
> Just for having to learn to use terminal, that makes Vista the winner,
> when it comes to the "average" computer user, IMNSHO.
>


I haven't used the terminal in ages.

Alias
 
Re: Delurking: My opinion about this group and its mental patients

Alias wrote:

> kurttrail wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> That would depend on the average computer user. Which is more
>>> difficult, learning Vista or Ubuntu?

>>
>> Just for having to learn to use terminal, that makes Vista the winner,
>> when it comes to the "average" computer user, IMNSHO.
>>
>>

> I haven't used the terminal in ages.


I needed it a lot to setup my hardware. And still need it occasionally
to reconnect my bluetooth mouse after waking up out of sleep.

--
Peace!
Kurt
Former Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
 
Re: Delurking: My opinion about this group and its mental patients


"Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23VvqoMHhIHA.6092@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> kurttrail wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> That would depend on the average computer user. Which is more difficult,
>>> learning Vista or Ubuntu?

>>
>> Just for having to learn to use terminal, that makes Vista the winner,
>> when it comes to the "average" computer user, IMNSHO.
>>

>
> I haven't used the terminal in ages.
>
> Alias


Yea because you use Ubuntu. You can't use much. Maybe e-mail and web
surfing.
 
Re: Delurking: My opinion about this group and its mental patients

kurttrail wrote:
> On the Bridge! wrote:
>
>> I have been part of MS newsgroups for years. I have NEVER seen such crap
>> in any other Microsoft newsgroup,
>> like I have seen in here. I have never seen a collection of such IDIOTS
>> in one Microsoft newsgroup ever.
>>
>> I will give you a GOOD reason this newsgroup is different.
>>
>> Vista attracts stupid people because its quality is bad, and bad
>> attracts bad.
>> Its simple.
>>
>> If you had a good product then there would be little controversy or need
>> to quarrel.
>> Sure there would be some trolls from time to time, but they would leave
>> without something to fuel their troll hunger. Vistas very nature is food
>> for FLAMEWARS, people who love it and people who hate it, and some who
>> come in here
>> because a lot of commotion is going on and post irrelevant crap just to
>> get the attention (see spanky and its clone kevpan).
>>
>> Don't blame ANYTHING or ANYONE else. Blame Vista for being a bad product
>> in the first place that has caused grief and disappointment and
>> controversy all over the globe.

>
> Blame MS, not the copyrighted material they sold to you.
>
> Vista, like ALL OSs have problems. What I wouldn't give to beat the crap
> out of the idiots that destroyed Explorer! However, on the right
> hardware, Vista does its basic job, being an Operating System, and does
> it pretty well.
>
> The biggest problems with Vista is the marketing BS. All the different
> versions, the "Vista-capable" con . . . . but again, that is more a
> problem with the company rather than the OS. MS has always purposefully
> used consumer confusion & FUD as a tool to sell more copies of software
> than consumers actually need or want.
>


Welcome back Kurt!

What bothers me the most about Vista is the violation of the users'
privacy, DRM, and the even worse WPA, WGA/N crap MS pumped into it. The
instability issues and learning curve are a bit easier to deal with, IMO.

--
"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on
free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the
creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
- Maura Corbett

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Re: Delurking: My opinion about this group and its mental patients

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:18:35 +0000, kurttrail wrote:

> Alias wrote:
>
>> kurttrail wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> That would depend on the average computer user. Which is more
>>>> difficult, learning Vista or Ubuntu?
>>>
>>> Just for having to learn to use terminal, that makes Vista the winner,
>>> when it comes to the "average" computer user, IMNSHO.
>>>
>>>

>> I haven't used the terminal in ages.

>
> I needed it a lot to setup my hardware. And still need it occasionally
> to reconnect my bluetooth mouse after waking up out of sleep.


Once Ubuntu's set up, though, terminal use is pretty minimal. When I
install Ubuntu for someone, I also install all the hardware and software
they need so they don't have to fooling around in a terminal.

That said, I still use XP for gaming and for Outlook 2003 but that's
about it.

Alias
 
Re: Delurking: My opinion about this group and its mental patients

Bill Yanaire wrote:
> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23VvqoMHhIHA.6092@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> kurttrail wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> That would depend on the average computer user. Which is more difficult,
>>>> learning Vista or Ubuntu?
>>> Just for having to learn to use terminal, that makes Vista the winner,
>>> when it comes to the "average" computer user, IMNSHO.
>>>

>> I haven't used the terminal in ages.
>>
>> Alias

>
> Yea because you use Ubuntu. You can't use much. Maybe e-mail and web
> surfing.


False.

Alias
 
Re: Delurking: My opinion about this group and its mental patient

Re: Delurking: My opinion about this group and its mental patient

It's not so difficult to ignore the "trash" posted by the regular trolls
(they exist on both sides linux and windows). After all, they pretty much
only speak with eachother. If a new person posts up a question and gets a BS
response from a troll, the person almost always ignores the troll 'till a
helpful person chimes in.

These guys argue back and forth about pointless, unrelated, random crap so
much that I'm convinced they're either bots created to muck up the Vista
board, or just increadible losers trying to brush up on English as a 2nd or
3rd language. No person above the retarded line can take them seriously, so
we overlook it and move on to whatever has substance worth reading.

Ignoring them has worked very well for most of us who lurk and look for help
and new ideas...

"kurttrail" wrote:

> iagreewithyou wrote:
>
> > iagreewithyou -- it is too bad that so much hurtful bantering has to go
> > on. it only downgrades the person saying it and makes themselves no
> > better than the other one. You have all put yourselves into the same
> > sinking boat and you know who you are.

>
> Actually, I've nothing against arguments getting personal or hurtful, as
> long as the arguments themselves have something to do with the group.
>
> Most of the problems here have to do with ego-maniacal trolls, who could
> care less about MS, Vista, or the people coming here just looking for a
> little help, and are just here to virtually & publicly masturbate,
> because they are so limp in real life, that they cannot even get
> themselves off physically in private.
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Former Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>
>
 
Re: Delurking: My opinion about this group and its mental patient

Re: Delurking: My opinion about this group and its mental patient

iagreewithyou I do have some questions to ask but have been hesitant
because I'm not sure what sort of answer I may get in response---so I've not
yet asked; so will see how things progress. I do thankyou for your kind
response
redrunner and kurttrail.

"redrunner" <redrunner@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3173350F-25DC-41BB-9CC1-E22C8C477E50@microsoft.com...
> It's not so difficult to ignore the "trash" posted by the regular trolls
> (they exist on both sides linux and windows). After all, they pretty much
> only speak with eachother. If a new person posts up a question and gets a
> BS
> response from a troll, the person almost always ignores the troll 'till a
> helpful person chimes in.
>
> These guys argue back and forth about pointless, unrelated, random crap so
> much that I'm convinced they're either bots created to muck up the Vista
> board, or just increadible losers trying to brush up on English as a 2nd
> or
> 3rd language. No person above the retarded line can take them seriously,
> so
> we overlook it and move on to whatever has substance worth reading.
>
> Ignoring them has worked very well for most of us who lurk and look for
> help
> and new ideas...
>
> "kurttrail" wrote:
>
>> iagreewithyou wrote:
>>
>> > iagreewithyou -- it is too bad that so much hurtful bantering has to
>> > go
>> > on. it only downgrades the person saying it and makes themselves no
>> > better than the other one. You have all put yourselves into the same
>> > sinking boat and you know who you are.

>>
>> Actually, I've nothing against arguments getting personal or hurtful, as
>> long as the arguments themselves have something to do with the group.
>>
>> Most of the problems here have to do with ego-maniacal trolls, who could
>> care less about MS, Vista, or the people coming here just looking for a
>> little help, and are just here to virtually & publicly masturbate,
>> because they are so limp in real life, that they cannot even get
>> themselves off physically in private.
>>
>> --
>> Peace!
>> Kurt
>> Former Self-anointed Moderator
>> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
>> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>>
>>
 
Re: Delurking: My opinion about this group and its mental patient

Re: Delurking: My opinion about this group and its mental patient

Those seeking an honest answer or help can't ask a stupid question. These
boards were created for the purpose of a community helping eachother.

Don't let anonymous internet users discourage you from posting a question or
comment -- after all, this is the internet -- you can't take them for more
than they're worth.

:)

"iagreewithyou" wrote:

> iagreewithyou I do have some questions to ask but have been hesitant
> because I'm not sure what sort of answer I may get in response---so I've not
> yet asked; so will see how things progress. I do thankyou for your kind
> response
> redrunner and kurttrail.
>
> "redrunner" <redrunner@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3173350F-25DC-41BB-9CC1-E22C8C477E50@microsoft.com...
> > It's not so difficult to ignore the "trash" posted by the regular trolls
> > (they exist on both sides linux and windows). After all, they pretty much
> > only speak with eachother. If a new person posts up a question and gets a
> > BS
> > response from a troll, the person almost always ignores the troll 'till a
> > helpful person chimes in.
> >
> > These guys argue back and forth about pointless, unrelated, random crap so
> > much that I'm convinced they're either bots created to muck up the Vista
> > board, or just increadible losers trying to brush up on English as a 2nd
> > or
> > 3rd language. No person above the retarded line can take them seriously,
> > so
> > we overlook it and move on to whatever has substance worth reading.
> >
> > Ignoring them has worked very well for most of us who lurk and look for
> > help
> > and new ideas...
> >
> > "kurttrail" wrote:
> >
> >> iagreewithyou wrote:
> >>
> >> > iagreewithyou -- it is too bad that so much hurtful bantering has to
> >> > go
> >> > on. it only downgrades the person saying it and makes themselves no
> >> > better than the other one. You have all put yourselves into the same
> >> > sinking boat and you know who you are.
> >>
> >> Actually, I've nothing against arguments getting personal or hurtful, as
> >> long as the arguments themselves have something to do with the group.
> >>
> >> Most of the problems here have to do with ego-maniacal trolls, who could
> >> care less about MS, Vista, or the people coming here just looking for a
> >> little help, and are just here to virtually & publicly masturbate,
> >> because they are so limp in real life, that they cannot even get
> >> themselves off physically in private.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Peace!
> >> Kurt
> >> Former Self-anointed Moderator
> >> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> >> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
> >>
> >>

>
>
 
Re: Delurking: My opinion about this group and its mental patients



"Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
news:ObEiWeHhIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Bill Yanaire wrote:


8<

>> Yea because you use Ubuntu. You can't use much. Maybe e-mail and web
>> surfing.

>
> False.


For once alias may be telling the truth.. he uses outlook for email not
ubuntu.

>
> Alias
 
Re: Delurking: My opinion about this group and its mental patients

kurttrail wrote:
> On the Bridge! wrote:
>
>> I have been part of MS newsgroups for years. I have NEVER seen such crap
>> in any other Microsoft newsgroup,
>> like I have seen in here. I have never seen a collection of such IDIOTS
>> in one Microsoft newsgroup ever.
>>
>> I will give you a GOOD reason this newsgroup is different.
>>
>> Vista attracts stupid people because its quality is bad, and bad
>> attracts bad.
>> Its simple.
>>
>> If you had a good product then there would be little controversy or need
>> to quarrel.
>> Sure there would be some trolls from time to time, but they would leave
>> without something to fuel their troll hunger. Vistas very nature is food
>> for FLAMEWARS, people who love it and people who hate it, and some who
>> come in here
>> because a lot of commotion is going on and post irrelevant crap just to
>> get the attention (see spanky and its clone kevpan).
>>
>> Don't blame ANYTHING or ANYONE else. Blame Vista for being a bad product
>> in the first place that has caused grief and disappointment and
>> controversy all over the globe.

>
> Blame MS, not the copyrighted material they sold to you.
>
> Vista, like ALL OSs have problems. What I wouldn't give to beat the crap
> out of the idiots that destroyed Explorer! However, on the right
> hardware, Vista does its basic job, being an Operating System, and does
> it pretty well.
>
> The biggest problems with Vista is the marketing BS. All the different
> versions, the "Vista-capable" con . . . . but again, that is more a
> problem with the company rather than the OS. MS has always purposefully
> used consumer confusion & FUD as a tool to sell more copies of software
> than consumers actually need or want.
>


Welcome back Kurt!

What bothers me the most about Vista is the violation of the users'
privacy, DRM, and the even worse WPA, WGA/N crap MS pumped into it. The
instability issues and learning curve are a bit easier to deal with, IMO.

--
"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on
free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the
creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
- Maura Corbett
 
Re: Delurking: My opinion about this group and its mental patients

dennis@home wrote:
>
>
> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ObEiWeHhIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Bill Yanaire wrote:

>
> 8<
>
>>> Yea because you use Ubuntu. You can't use much. Maybe e-mail and
>>> web surfing.

>>
>> False.

>
> For once alias may be telling the truth.. he uses outlook for email not
> ubuntu.


I use Outlook for business mail, tasks, calendar, etc. I use Thunderbird
in Ubuntu for personal mail.

Right now I'm listening to Internet radio and just got off an IM with a
friend. A lot more can be done with Ubuntu than email and surfing but we
all know how you love to lie and spread FUD about Ubuntu. If that
doesn't work, like Frank, you hurl unfounded insults to try and prop up
your case that's really a house of cards that you hate to see blown down.

Alias
 
Re: Delurking: My opinion about this group and its mental patients

Not that I'd switch back to XP but I do look back on xp.gen with nostalgia.
I'm glad you're back. We don't often agree but at least you have mostly
intelligent arguments - well at least compared the usual fare in here,
intelligent. It's way more fun to trade jibes when the other person at least
has a clue about the points being made on both sides of the argument.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/



"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:eiTBj.11408$2L5.8235@fe28.usenetserver.com...
> Boy, does this group need a "Self-Anointed Moderator," or what?! ;-)
>
> Back in the good ole days of xp.gen, the pro v. anti-microsoft forces
> used to fight over things that were at least tangentially on-topic, you
> know about the OS, and the company that made the OS. Sure, the fighting
> got dirty, nasty, and personal, but it was never as totally off-topic as
> this group is.
>
> This group is more like the collection of trolls over at alt.os.windows-
> xp, more about trolling than the topic at hand.
>
> People of good conscience need to take a stand against these trolls that
> have hijacked this group. Sitting back quietly has only condoned the
> actions of these childish trolls.
>
> Ya'll have only a few choices:
>
> 1.) Do nothing, and let this group continue its downward spiral.
> 2.) Stand up to these children, and keep putting them in their place,
> until they leave with their tails tucked firmly between their legs.
> 3.) Go on strike, stop posting here, and force MS to deal with this troll
> problem in their group.
>
> Is this a group for those needing help with Vista, or is this just a
> place for trolls to play?
>
> The choice is in the hands of the more rational members of this group.
> Do something, anything, or just continue to condone the trolls' control
> this group!
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Former Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>
 
Re: Delurking: My opinion about this group and its mental patients

gasoline on a fire to burn vista to reduce it to a lump of charred dust???

HELL YEAH!!!!!

hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa (evil laugh)

:-)

seriously though, as you may have noticed im not bashing vista as I used to
prior to SP1

This may surprise you but im even advising people now to get vista with new
pcs, and I give a limited the amount of
warnings...

So you see.. once vista improved to a point that it is acceptable (ok not
great but at least its managable)
I have no reason to bash vista. Ok I DO bash vista from time to time, just
to get the muscles flexed, or whenever
news pours out about its terrible past...

but hey... Vista carries a very bad history with it... dont expect people to
just start liking it 100%




"Frank" <fab@notspam.com> wrote in message
news:OWDF8jGhIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> On the Bridge! wrote:
>
> ...cc, you're guilty as all hell. You like putting gasoline on a fire.
> Stop pretending you don't. You are part of the problem and not the
> solution.
> Frank
 
Re: Delurking: My opinion about this group and its mental patients

>What I wouldn't give to beat the crap
>out of the idiots that destroyed Explorer!

ME TOO!

>However, on the right
>hardware, Vista does its basic job, being >an Operating System, and does
>it pretty well.


I Agree but after 5 years of development I wanted something great, not "just
ok"



"kurttrail" <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:oIUBj.11422$2L5.3065@fe28.usenetserver.com...
> On the Bridge! wrote:
>
>> I have been part of MS newsgroups for years. I have NEVER seen such crap
>> in any other Microsoft newsgroup,
>> like I have seen in here. I have never seen a collection of such IDIOTS
>> in one Microsoft newsgroup ever.
>>
>> I will give you a GOOD reason this newsgroup is different.
>>
>> Vista attracts stupid people because its quality is bad, and bad
>> attracts bad.
>> Its simple.
>>
>> If you had a good product then there would be little controversy or need
>> to quarrel.
>> Sure there would be some trolls from time to time, but they would leave
>> without something to fuel their troll hunger. Vistas very nature is food
>> for FLAMEWARS, people who love it and people who hate it, and some who
>> come in here
>> because a lot of commotion is going on and post irrelevant crap just to
>> get the attention (see spanky and its clone kevpan).
>>
>> Don't blame ANYTHING or ANYONE else. Blame Vista for being a bad product
>> in the first place that has caused grief and disappointment and
>> controversy all over the globe.

>
> Blame MS, not the copyrighted material they sold to you.
>
> Vista, like ALL OSs have problems. What I wouldn't give to beat the crap
> out of the idiots that destroyed Explorer! However, on the right
> hardware, Vista does its basic job, being an Operating System, and does
> it pretty well.
>
> The biggest problems with Vista is the marketing BS. All the different
> versions, the "Vista-capable" con . . . . but again, that is more a
> problem with the company rather than the OS. MS has always purposefully
> used consumer confusion & FUD as a tool to sell more copies of software
> than consumers actually need or want.
>
> --
> Peace!
> Kurt
> Former Self-anointed Moderator
> microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
> "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
>
 
Re: Delurking: My opinion about this group and its mental patients

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:50:07 +0100, Alias
<iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote:

>Donald L McDaniel wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:12:58 GMT, kurttrail
>> <dontemailme@anywhereintheknownuniverse.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Boy, does this group need a "Self-Anointed Moderator," or what?! ;-)
>>>
>>> Back in the good ole days of xp.gen, the pro v. anti-microsoft forces
>>> used to fight over things that were at least tangentially on-topic, you
>>> know about the OS, and the company that made the OS. Sure, the fighting
>>> got dirty, nasty, and personal, but it was never as totally off-topic as
>>> this group is.


Let's examine a few threads in this group, ok? And see how
"off-topic" they really are:

Out of 411 Unread threads for this day, only about 10 or so are
off-topic: The VAST MAJORITY are "General" questions about Microsoft
Vista, devices used with Vista, software used with Vista. i.e.,
"GENERAL questions about Vista."

And the off-topic ones are mostly ad-hominem attacks on a few idiots
by a few idiots. Just wave 'em off like mosquitos or gnats.


>>>
>>> This group is more like the collection of trolls over at alt.os.windows-
>>> xp, more about trolling than the topic at hand.
>>>
>>> People of good conscience need to take a stand against these trolls that
>>> have hijacked this group. Sitting back quietly has only condoned the
>>> actions of these childish trolls.


The Book of Proverbs tell us to not "answer a fool according to his
folly..." i.e., "retort with the same foolish words", or you will
become a fool like him. No, we are to "answer a fool as his folly
deserves..." (i.e., show him his foolishness in such a way that he
recognizes its foolishness.)

I just don't see how a few malcontents and idiots posting attacks on
each other comprises "hijacking" of this group.

If you want to be the "policeman" of the group, go right ahead. Yer
welcome to it (as if my word actually carries any weight with anyone).
I doubt your fooling around will affect the group very much. But you
will tend to draw others like yourself on the days or nights they feel
like slurping a lot of suds and getting on the old "InterTubes".

>>>
>>> Ya'll have only a few choices:
>>>
>>> 1.) Do nothing, and let this group continue its downward spiral.
>>> 2.) Stand up to these children, and keep putting them in their place,
>>> until they leave with their tails tucked firmly between their legs.
>>> 3.) Go on strike, stop posting here, and force MS to deal with this troll
>>> problem in their group.


Good idea. Try #3 first.
Let's see how quickly Microsoft responds to being "forced to deal"
with a lone voice like yours.

Kurt, Kurt, there is no such "troll problem", as you call it, in this
group.

Want to see a group with a "troll problem"? Go to
<news://comp.sys.mac.advocacy>
Then come back here and go on and on about the imagined "troll
problem" in this group.


>>>
>>> Is this a group for those needing help with Vista, or is this just a
>>> place for trolls to play?
>>>
>>> The choice is in the hands of the more rational members of this group.
>>> Do something, anything, or just continue to condone the trolls' control
>>> this group!

>>
>> Who are you talking about, Kurt? Yourself?
>> You are one of the biggest "trolls" of all.
>>
>> Perhaps YOU should leave this group, and never come back. Then
>> perhaps more peace will reign here.
>>
>>

>
>I don't see you saying that to Frank or AlexB. Are you afraid of Frank
>and AlexB?
>
>Alias


Don't worry, I'll get around to them, in time.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt told us, "We have nothing to fear but fear
itself."

Anyway, I was in a terrible mood that day. I seem to have taken it
out on Kurt. For which I have apologized, I hope.

But, as to the so-called "trolls": let them ramble on. They will
eventually get tired. Children usually tire out after awhile, and go
play elsewhere, or play with other toys.

They will also eventually run into the same problems everyone else
has, and need help themselves at some point.

We will be there to help them, hopefully.
If you want to, just kill-file them.
Personally, I prefer not to. Even idiots sometimes speak wisdom.


--
Donald L McDaniel

How can so many otherwise very intelligent people screw up
something so simple so badly? If you stick a computer
keyboard in front of most people, they'll suddenly drop
30 points off their IQs. Much like placing a "Pork Barrel"
bill in front of a politician: He'll forget all about
"cooperation" the minute he counts the zeroes before the
decimal point.
 
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