Bootup - Shutdown logger

PCR · Apr 23, 2008

Re: Bootup - Shutdown logger

Franc Zabkar wrote:
| On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:42:49 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
| finger to keyboard and composed:
|
|>Another thing: what about your settings at...?...
|>
|>"Control Panel, Internet Options, Security tab, Select Internet (&
|>maybe Local Intranet)"
|>
|>Are you at Default or Custom? If Custom, are the 3 Scripting options
|>enabled? Mine are, (but not all the ActiveX options are enabled).
|
| I'll try to answer everyone's questions here.
|
| These are my security settings:
|
| Local intranet Medium-low
| Trusted sites Low
| Internet Medium
| Restricted sites High
|
| I've tried setting Local intranet to Low but the error remained.

Those settings were good, then. And I see you have solved the problem &
possibly could stop now. Probably, some 3rd-party software renamed your
Scrrun.dll as a security measure to prevent scripts from running, & you
will be fine now that you renamed it back.

| I've been able to successfully run Gary's .vbs script on my other
| Win98SE box. Now I'm trying to find what is different about them.
|
| According to msinfo32.exe, the two boxes are both using IE6SP1 with
| the same build version and same updates.

I'm not seeing that you have taken all the updates, at "IE, Help,
About"...!...

Yours... ;SP1;q240308;q313829;Q330994;Q828750
Mine....
SP1, Q313829, Q328970, Q328389, Q324929, Q810847, Q813951, Q816506,
Q813489, Q330994, Q818529, Q822925, Q828750, Q824145, Q832894,
Q837009, Q831167, Q823353, Q867801, Q833989, Q834707, Q889293,
Q867282, Q891781, Q890923, Q883939, Q896688, Q905915, Q912812,
Q916281 & Q918439.

Although mine is misleading (because the registry key the data comes
from is not cleared of superceded updates, but the later ones are just
added)... you need to go to Windows Update & get at least Q916281 &
Q918439...

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-021.mspx
Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-021
Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer (916281)

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-022.mspx
Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-022
Vulnerability in ART Image Rendering Could Allow Remote Code Execution
(918439)

REMEMBER... To see the Win98 updates at Windows Update, you must go
there from a Win98 machine. And that MSVCRT.dll you reported earlier
looks suspiciously XP/Vista-irradiated to me...!...

You Me
MSVCRT.dll 6.10.8924.0 6.00.8797.0

Also, your script files...

jscript.dll 5.6.0.8513
vbscript.dll 5.6.0.8515

....are STILL lower than my versions. Jugding from this SFCLog.txt of
mine, you need at least one more update...

[C:\WINDOWS]
wscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
[c:\windows\COMMAND]
cscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
[C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM]
jscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
scrobj.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
vbscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
wshext.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
scrrun.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
wshom.ocx Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No

I'm not sure Windows Update will get that done for you. If not, I'll try
harder to recall what it was that I ran (back in '06 says the date in
SFCLog.txt) that got me updated to that.

Well... wait a minute... I am seeing those files with those dates in my
version of that file you mentioned... Scr56en.exe. Its Properties says
my version is 5.50.4134.600. (Not sure where I got it from.)

| The above security settings
| are also identical.
|
| These are the IE data for the good box:
| http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/xp2500IE.txt
|
| These are the IE data for the bad box:
| http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/xp2500IE.txt
|
| This is the difference between the two data sets:
| http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/diff_ie.txt
|
| I can find only one real difference and that is that the good box has
| a later version of vbscript.dll. However using this version on the bad
| box doesn't make the error go away.
|
| The good box also has Opera installed on it, although it is a much
| earlier version.
|
| The same versions of wscript.exe are installed on both boxes.
|
| This a Filemon record up until the error box appears:
| http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/vbs_filemon.txt
|
| The Filemon output screen isn't mousable, but holding down the
| Ctrl-Shift key plus Home/End/PgUp/PgDown and then selecting Edit >
| Copy enables one to copy and paste the output into Notepad. Thanks to
| MEB.
|
| As for TweakUI's IE settings, all but the following boxes are checked:
|
| Clear document, run, typed-URL history on exit
| Show Favorites on Start Menu
|
| If I use Opera to open a .vbs file, it merely displays its contents.
| Under Tools > Preferences > Advanced > Downloads there is no VBS file
| type.
|
| ===============================================================
|
| While writing the above and trying things as I went, I finally got the
| script to work. Unfortunately I lost track of what I did. :-(
|
| However, if I now rename scrrun.dll in the Windows\System directory to
| scrrun.dl_, then the VB script breaks as before. Renaming other files
| in the scr56en.exe package either has no effect, or produces other
| errors. I notice that scrrun.dll appears in MEB's Filemon output
| screen (thank you MEB) soon after mine errors out. Maybe that was the
| problem all along.
|
| The following URL may offer an explanation for what happened:
| http://www.auditmypc.com/process/scrrun.asp
|
| "The file, scrrun.dll, is used by windows when running scripts such as
| those written with JScript or VBScript. If scrrun.dll is unavailable,
| windows will not be able to execute scripts. If you do not use any
| scripting on your computer you may be able to remove this file."
|
| Anyway I suspect that something broke my IE6 or WSH installation. I
| hate installing updates and patches because this sort of thing seems
| to happen to me a lot.
|
| Thanks to all for your help.
|
| - Franc Zabkar
| --
| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

Franc Zabkar · Apr 24, 2008

Re: Bootup - Shutdown logger

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:15:32 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>Franc Zabkar wrote:

>I'm not seeing that you have taken all the updates, at "IE, Help,
>About"...!...
>
>Yours... ;SP1;q240308;q313829;Q330994;Q828750
>Mine....
>SP1, Q313829, Q328970, Q328389, Q324929, Q810847, Q813951, Q816506,
>Q813489, Q330994, Q818529, Q822925, Q828750, Q824145, Q832894,
>Q837009, Q831167, Q823353, Q867801, Q833989, Q834707, Q889293,
>Q867282, Q891781, Q890923, Q883939, Q896688, Q905915, Q912812,
>Q916281 & Q918439.

>Although mine is misleading (because the registry key the data comes
>from is not cleared of superceded updates, but the later ones are just
>added)... you need to go to Windows Update & get at least Q916281 &
>Q918439...

>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-021.mspx
>Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-021
>Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer (916281)
>
>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-022.mspx
>Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-022
>Vulnerability in ART Image Rendering Could Allow Remote Code Execution
>(918439)

OK, after updating I now have ...

Update Versions
;SP1;q240308;q313829;Q330994;Q828750;Q918439;Q916281;Q837009;Q833989;Q891781;
Java VM Version 5.0.3810.0

>REMEMBER... To see the Win98 updates at Windows Update, you must go
>there from a Win98 machine. And that MSVCRT.dll you reported earlier
>looks suspiciously XP/Vista-irradiated to me...!...
>
> You Me
>MSVCRT.dll 6.10.8924.0 6.00.8797.0

I have no idea where this version came from.

>Also, your script files...
>
>jscript.dll 5.6.0.8513
>vbscript.dll 5.6.0.8515

After Windows Update I have ...

jscript.dll 5.6.0.8831
vbscript.dll 5.6.0.7426

>...are STILL lower than my versions. Jugding from this SFCLog.txt of
>mine, you need at least one more update...
>
>[C:\WINDOWS]
>wscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
>[c:\windows\COMMAND]
>cscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
>[C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM]
>jscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
>scrobj.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
>vbscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
>wshext.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
>scrrun.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
>wshom.ocx Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
>
>I'm not sure Windows Update will get that done for you. If not, I'll try
>harder to recall what it was that I ran (back in '06 says the date in
>SFCLog.txt) that got me updated to that.
>
>Well... wait a minute... I am seeing those files with those dates in my
>version of that file you mentioned... Scr56en.exe. Its Properties says
>my version is 5.50.4134.600. (Not sure where I got it from.)

That's the one Gary is offering.

BTW, start.vbs still works, but I wouldn't be surprised if the updates
broke something else.

Thanks for your interest.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

PCR · Apr 25, 2008

Re: Bootup - Shutdown logger

Franc Zabkar wrote:
| On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:15:32 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
| finger to keyboard and composed:
|
|>Franc Zabkar wrote:
|
|>I'm not seeing that you have taken all the updates, at "IE, Help,
|>About"...!...
|>
|>Yours... ;SP1;q240308;q313829;Q330994;Q828750
|>Mine....
|>SP1, Q313829, Q328970, Q328389, Q324929, Q810847, Q813951, Q816506,
|>Q813489, Q330994, Q818529, Q822925, Q828750, Q824145, Q832894,
|>Q837009, Q831167, Q823353, Q867801, Q833989, Q834707, Q889293,
|>Q867282, Q891781, Q890923, Q883939, Q896688, Q905915, Q912812,
|>Q916281 & Q918439.
|
|>Although mine is misleading (because the registry key the data comes
|>from is not cleared of superceded updates, but the later ones are just
|>added)... you need to go to Windows Update & get at least Q916281 &
|>Q918439...
|
|>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-021.mspx
|>Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-021
|>Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer (916281)
|>
|>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-022.mspx
|>Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-022
|>Vulnerability in ART Image Rendering Could Allow Remote Code Execution
|>(918439)
|
| OK, after updating I now have ...
|
| Update Versions
|
;SP1;q240308;q313829;Q330994;Q828750;Q918439;Q916281;Q837009;Q833989;Q89
1781;
| Java VM Version 5.0.3810.0

That looks a lot, lot better! Try Windows Update once more to see
whether it is through with you. Sometimes you need to take one in order
to be eligible for another. If no more are offered, the rest of what I
have shown (of my IE, About) is presumably either superceded or not
applicable to your machine.

(I should be more definitive like Terhune & Chauvin have been in the
past about these updates, but...) here (anyway) is a clue to the
superceded ones. At "Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs,
Install/Uninstall tab", I do know that...

(a) Internet Explorer Q918439 replaced...
Q912812, Q905915, Q896688, Q883939, Q890923, Q891781,
Q889293, Q834707, Q867801, Q831167, Q832894, Q824145,
Q828750, Q822925, Q818529)

(b) Outlook Express Q823353 replaced...
Q837009, Q330994. (That's right, it replaced a higher number.)

(c) All of these also show up in Add/Remove...

Microsoft Data Access Components KB870669
Microsoft VGX Q833989
Windows 98 KB891711 Update
Windows 98 KB896358 Update
Windows 98 KB908519 Update
Windows 98 KB918547 Update
Windows 98 Q823559 Update
Windows 98 Q840315 Update
Windows 98 Q888113 Update
Windows 98 Q890175 Update

|>REMEMBER... To see the Win98 updates at Windows Update, you must go
|>there from a Win98 machine. And that MSVCRT.dll you reported earlier
|>looks suspiciously XP/Vista-irradiated to me...!...
|>
|> You Me
|>MSVCRT.dll 6.10.8924.0 6.00.8797.0
|
| I have no idea where this version came from.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=MSVCRT.dll++6.10.8924.0&btnG=Google+Search
Google finds about 402 for "MSVCRT.dll 6.10.8924.0", but I haven't come
up with a definitive answer yet.

http://support.microsoft.com/dllhel...&l=55&alpha=msvcrt.dll&S=1&x=12&y=13&start=50
MS's DLL Database doesn't mention yours, but that too is not quite
definitive.

|>Also, your script files...
|>
|>jscript.dll 5.6.0.8513
|>vbscript.dll 5.6.0.8515
|
| After Windows Update I have ...
|
| jscript.dll 5.6.0.8831
| vbscript.dll 5.6.0.7426

OOOPS... that is right about about JScript.dll! I have a later entry in
SFCLog.txt showing...

jscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 5.6.0.8831 5/17/06 No

...., after the last bundle of critical updates!

But VBScript.dll definitely was last updated by Scr56en.exe
v.5.50.4134.600. It is v.5.6.0.8825. The JScript.dll in that .exe also
is that older version; (I've just extracted it). It might have been best
to run Scr56en.exe before going to Windows Update. But there's a chance
it won't wreck your new JScript.dll if you run it now. It might ask
first before over-writing a newer version. (I don't know for sure.)

|>...are STILL lower than my versions. Jugding from this SFCLog.txt of
|>mine, you need at least one more update...
|>
|>[C:\WINDOWS]
|>wscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
|>[c:\windows\COMMAND]
|>cscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
|>[C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM]
|>jscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
|>scrobj.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
|>vbscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
|>wshext.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
|>scrrun.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
|>wshom.ocx Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
|>
|>I'm not sure Windows Update will get that done for you. If not, I'll
|>try harder to recall what it was that I ran (back in '06 says the
|>date in SFCLog.txt) that got me updated to that.
|>
|>Well... wait a minute... I am seeing those files with those dates in
|>my version of that file you mentioned... Scr56en.exe. Its Properties
|>says my version is 5.50.4134.600. (Not sure where I got it from.)
|
| That's the one Gary is offering.

It will give you a newer VBScript.dll-- but will it revert your
JScript.dll?

| BTW, start.vbs still works, but I wouldn't be surprised if the updates
| broke something else.

I can't recall any script crashes.

| Thanks for your interest.
|
| - Franc Zabkar
| --
| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

Franc Zabkar · Apr 29, 2008

Re: Bootup - Shutdown logger

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:55:09 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>Franc Zabkar wrote:

>| OK, after updating I now have ...
>|
>| Update Versions
>|
>;SP1;q240308;q313829;Q330994;Q828750;Q918439;Q916281;Q837009;Q833989;Q89
>1781;
>| Java VM Version 5.0.3810.0
>
>That looks a lot, lot better! Try Windows Update once more to see
>whether it is through with you. Sometimes you need to take one in order
>to be eligible for another. If no more are offered, the rest of what I
>have shown (of my IE, About) is presumably either superceded or not
>applicable to your machine.

The only useful items that were offered were ...

Security Update for Flash Player (KB913433)
Windows IDE Hard Drive Cache Package

>(I should be more definitive like Terhune & Chauvin have been in the
>past about these updates, but...) here (anyway) is a clue to the
>superceded ones. At "Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs,
>Install/Uninstall tab", I do know that...
>
>(a) Internet Explorer Q918439 replaced...
> Q912812, Q905915, Q896688, Q883939, Q890923, Q891781,
> Q889293, Q834707, Q867801, Q831167, Q832894, Q824145,
> Q828750, Q822925, Q818529)
>
>(b) Outlook Express Q823353 replaced...
> Q837009, Q330994. (That's right, it replaced a higher number.)
>
>(c) All of these also show up in Add/Remove...

This is what I have:

N=no, Y=yes

N Microsoft Data Access Components KB870669
Y Microsoft VGX Q833989
Y Windows 98 KB891711 Update
Y Windows 98 KB896358 Update
Y Windows 98 KB908519 Update
Y Windows 98 KB918547 Update
Y Windows 98 Q823559 Update
Y Windows 98 Q840315 Update
Y Windows 98 Q888113 Update
N Windows 98 Q890175 Update

I think I'll just leave it as it is.

Thanks for your input.

BTW, this is what msinfo32.exe reports:

[Software Updates]

Windows 98 Second Edition = 4,10,0,2222
Updates = Year 2000 Update for Windows 98

[W98]
[Windows 98 KB891711 Update]
[Windows 98 KB896358 Update]
[Windows 98 KB908519 Update]
[Windows 98 KB918547 Update]
[Windows 98 Q245729 Update]
[Windows 98 Q274548 Update]
[Windows 98 Q314147 Update]
[Windows 98 Q323172 Update]
[Windows 98 Q323255 Update]
[Windows 98 Q329115 Update]
[Windows 98 Q811630 Update]
[Windows 98 Q888113 Update]

[W98.SE]
[Windows 98 Q273727 Update]
[Windows 98 Q823559 Update]
[Windows 98 Second Edition Q242975 Update]
[Windows 98 Second Edition Q256015 Update]
[Windows 98 Second Edition Q259728 Update]
[Windows 98 Second Edition Q263044 Update]
[Windows 98 Second Edition Q273017 Update]
[Windows 98 Second Edition Q273991 Update]

[W98.TELNET]
[Windows 98 TELNET Update]

[Win98.SE]
[Windows 98 Second Edition Q238453 Update]
[Windows 98 Second Edition Q239887 Update]

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

PCR · Apr 29, 2008

Re: Bootup - Shutdown logger

Franc Zabkar wrote:
| On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:55:09 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
| finger to keyboard and composed:
|
|>Franc Zabkar wrote:
|
|>| OK, after updating I now have ...
|>|
|>| Update Versions
|>|
|>;SP1;q240308;q313829;Q330994;Q828750;Q918439;Q916281;Q837009;Q833989;Q
89
|>1781;
|>| Java VM Version 5.0.3810.0
|>
|>That looks a lot, lot better! Try Windows Update once more to see
|>whether it is through with you. Sometimes you need to take one in
|>order to be eligible for another. If no more are offered, the rest of
|>what I have shown (of my IE, About) is presumably either superceded
|>or not applicable to your machine.
|
| The only useful items that were offered were ...
|
| Security Update for Flash Player (KB913433)
| Windows IDE Hard Drive Cache Package

Interesting! I don't have that one, & Windows Update doesn't offer it...
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/913433
MS06-020: Vulnerabilities in Macromedia Flash Player from Adobe could
allow remote code execution

However, that article speaks of older versions of Flash Player than I
have, & I think it was mentioned at this site that an alternative to
that fix was to get the the newer version...

http://www.adobe.com/go/getflash
Adobe Flash Player version 9.0.124.0

That update goes quick & well. After it is done, at...

(a) C:\WINDOWS\Downloaded Program Files
(b) R-Clk "Shockwave Flash Object", Properties, Version tab,
should show v.9.0.124.0.

NOTE: I had to click the URL for the update. It did not work to R-Clk,
Update, the earlier version I started with!

|>(I should be more definitive like Terhune & Chauvin have been in the
|>past about these updates, but...) here (anyway) is a clue to the
|>superceded ones. At "Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs,
|>Install/Uninstall tab", I do know that...
|>
|>(a) Internet Explorer Q918439 replaced...
|> Q912812, Q905915, Q896688, Q883939, Q890923, Q891781,
|> Q889293, Q834707, Q867801, Q831167, Q832894, Q824145,
|> Q828750, Q822925, Q818529)
|>
|>(b) Outlook Express Q823353 replaced...
|> Q837009, Q330994. (That's right, it replaced a higher number.)
|>
|>(c) All of these also show up in Add/Remove...
|
| This is what I have:
|
| N=no, Y=yes
|
| N Microsoft Data Access Components KB870669

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=870669
How to disable the ADODB.Stream object from Internet Explorer

I didn't do it manually (that I reall), but true to the articles word,
my Registry does contain this key...

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX
Compatibility\{00000566-0000-0010-8000-00AA006D2EA4}]
"Compatibility Flags"=dword:00000400

That's one of the kill-bits so famous here a while ago!

| Y Microsoft VGX Q833989
| Y Windows 98 KB891711 Update
| Y Windows 98 KB896358 Update
| Y Windows 98 KB908519 Update
| Y Windows 98 KB918547 Update
| Y Windows 98 Q823559 Update
| Y Windows 98 Q840315 Update
| Y Windows 98 Q888113 Update
| N Windows 98 Q890175 Update

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS05-001.mspx
Microsoft Security Bulletin MS05-001
Vulnerability in HTML Help Could Allow Code Execution (890175)

That seems to deal with ActiveX & security zones! It hasn't hurt me to
take it that I can see!

|
| I think I'll just leave it as it is.
|
| Thanks for your input.
|
| BTW, this is what msinfo32.exe reports:
|
| [Software Updates]
|
| Windows 98 Second Edition = 4,10,0,2222
| Updates = Year 2000 Update for Windows 98
|
| [W98]
| [Windows 98 KB891711 Update]
| [Windows 98 KB896358 Update]
| [Windows 98 KB908519 Update]
| [Windows 98 KB918547 Update]
| [Windows 98 Q245729 Update]
| [Windows 98 Q274548 Update]
| [Windows 98 Q314147 Update]
| [Windows 98 Q323172 Update]
| [Windows 98 Q323255 Update]
| [Windows 98 Q329115 Update]
| [Windows 98 Q811630 Update]
| [Windows 98 Q888113 Update]
|
| [W98.SE]
| [Windows 98 Q273727 Update]
| [Windows 98 Q823559 Update]
| [Windows 98 Second Edition Q242975 Update]
| [Windows 98 Second Edition Q256015 Update]
| [Windows 98 Second Edition Q259728 Update]
| [Windows 98 Second Edition Q263044 Update]
| [Windows 98 Second Edition Q273017 Update]
| [Windows 98 Second Edition Q273991 Update]
|
| [W98.TELNET]
| [Windows 98 TELNET Update]
|
| [Win98.SE]
| [Windows 98 Second Edition Q238453 Update]
| [Windows 98 Second Edition Q239887 Update]

Here is mine from MSInfo32...

Windows 98 Second Edition=4,10,0,2222
Updates=Year 2000 Update for Windows 98b
SP2: Windows 98 Second Edition USBHUB
W98: KB891711, KB896358, KB908519, KB918547, Q245729, Q274113,
Q314147, Q323172, Q323255, Q329115, Q811630, Q840315,
Q888113, & Q890175.
W98SE: Q823559, Q245272, Q256015, Q259728, Q260067, Q263044,
Q273017 & Q273991.
Win98SE: Q249973, Q238453, Q239887, UHCD
Windows 98 Second Edition Digital Video
Windows 98 TELNET

But this machine was set up by Compaq (a 7470 Presario). So, it may
necessarily be different from yours. I see you have some that I don't.
But I'm not overly worried, presuming Windows Update would have offered
them if applicable.

I see the 1st one you've got that I don't is...
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/274548
Patch for "HyperTerminal Buffer Overflow" Vulnerability in Windows 98,
Windows Me

Now, I've taken the download. It's been my policy not to take stuff that
wasn't offered at Windows Update. This is more of a "hotfix". But I'm
considering it!

| - Franc Zabkar
| --
| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

Lee · Apr 30, 2008

Re: Bootup - Shutdown logger

On Apr 23, 7:15 pm, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote:
> Franc Zabkar wrote:
>
> | On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:42:49 -0400, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> put
> | finger to keyboard and composed:
> |
> |>Another thing: what about your settings at...?...
> |>
> |>"Control Panel, Internet Options, Security tab, Select Internet (&
> |>maybe Local Intranet)"
> |>
> |>Are you at Default or Custom? If Custom, are the 3 Scripting options
> |>enabled? Mine are, (but not all the ActiveX options are enabled).
> |
> | I'll try to answer everyone's questions here.
> |
> | These are my security settings:
> |
> | Local intranet Medium-low
> | Trusted sites Low
> | Internet Medium
> | Restricted sites High
> |
> | I've tried setting Local intranet to Low but the error remained.
>
> Those settings were good, then. And I see you have solved the problem &
> possibly could stop now. Probably, some 3rd-party software renamed your
> Scrrun.dll as a security measure to prevent scripts from running, & you
> will be fine now that you renamed it back.
>
> | I've been able to successfully run Gary's .vbs script on my other
> | Win98SE box. Now I'm trying to find what is different about them.
> |
> | According to msinfo32.exe, the two boxes are both using IE6SP1 with
> | the same build version and same updates.
>
> I'm not seeing that you have taken all the updates, at "IE, Help,
> About"...!...
>
> Yours... ;SP1;q240308;q313829;Q330994;Q828750
> Mine....
> SP1, Q313829, Q328970, Q328389, Q324929, Q810847, Q813951, Q816506,
> Q813489, Q330994, Q818529, Q822925, Q828750, Q824145, Q832894,
> Q837009, Q831167, Q823353, Q867801, Q833989, Q834707, Q889293,
> Q867282, Q891781, Q890923, Q883939, Q896688, Q905915, Q912812,
> Q916281 & Q918439.
>
> Although mine is misleading (because the registry key the data comes
> from is not cleared of superceded updates, but the later ones are just
> added)... you need to go to Windows Update & get at least Q916281 &
> Q918439...
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-021.mspx
> Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-021
> Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer (916281)
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-022.mspx
> Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-022
> Vulnerability in ART Image Rendering Could Allow Remote Code Execution
> (918439)
>
> REMEMBER... To see the Win98 updates at Windows Update, you must go
> there from a Win98 machine. And that MSVCRT.dll you reported earlier
> looks suspiciously XP/Vista-irradiated to me...!...
>
> You Me
> MSVCRT.dll 6.10.8924.0 6.00.8797.0
>
> Also, your script files...
>
> jscript.dll 5.6.0.8513
> vbscript.dll 5.6.0.8515
>
> ...are STILL lower than my versions. Jugding from this SFCLog.txt of
> mine, you need at least one more update...
>
> [C:\WINDOWS]
> wscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> [c:\windows\COMMAND]
> cscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> [C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM]
> jscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> scrobj.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> vbscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> wshext.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> scrrun.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> wshom.ocx Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
>
> I'm not sure Windows Update will get that done for you. If not, I'll try
> harder to recall what it was that I ran (back in '06 says the date in
> SFCLog.txt) that got me updated to that.
>
> Well... wait a minute... I am seeing those files with those dates in my
> version of that file you mentioned... Scr56en.exe. Its Properties says
> my version is 5.50.4134.600. (Not sure where I got it from.)

Hi,PCR. Check again and you will notice that the version you quote is
for Wextract.exe which is the package itself and NOT the update files
it contains. Your vbs version of 5.6.0.8825 is the latest MS offered
from this now dead URL:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/downloads/list/webdev.asp

Begining with Gary's Scr56en.exe of 6626 version, MS would silently
update the version available from the above website such that one
always got the latest version. I have archived versions
6626
8515
8825

The only one I think I might be missing was 8513. You could only have
gotten your version 8825 from that source as it was never available
from the WinUP site for reasons I can't fathom at all. Update 917344
does update just Jscript.dll to 8831 version, and once again NONE of
these updates will retrograde any version of files backwards. Files
are only replaced if the incoming files are the same or higher
version. So when Franc re-applys his 6626 version update all his
script files should be getting refreshed provided they ARE the same
version.

I'll be emailing Gary (from lee_454 AT Yahoo) the latest version for
all to enjoy the latest scripting host package - it is NOT available
anywhere else that I know of, so thanks a lot Gary, we need it hosted
somewhere. To view the version of files inside, open it with WinZip
and double click on the inf file to read, close to the bottom of it,
the version number. WinZip extracts just the inf file as a temporary
file in your TEMP folder and launches your default text file reader to
view it with, in such double click situations. To ensure trust, do
check the Digital Signature to see that it is a valid MS file that has
not been tampered with.

I once had a problem with script errors and found it was Norton's
scripting guard causing it because when I removed Norton my vbs spell
checker started working again with out the errors. Perhaps Franc has
Norton? The "Can't create ActiveX Object" error report is a common
one and more of a generic output than something specifically wrong
with the script itself although the script CAN be wrong and generate
the valid error - when the same script works for several other people
it is NOT an ActiveX error after all. Something else is going on with
Franc's machine. Getting him the latest Scripting Host package would
be number one on my list of things to do.

>
> | The above security settings
> | are also identical.
> |
> | These are the IE data for the good box:
> |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/xp2500IE.txt
> |
> | These are the IE data for the bad box:
> |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/xp2500IE.txt
> |
> | This is the difference between the two data sets:
> |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/diff_ie.txt
> |
> | I can find only one real difference and that is that the good box has
> | a later version of vbscript.dll. However using this version on the bad
> | box doesn't make the error go away.
> |
> | The good box also has Opera installed on it, although it is a much
> | earlier version.
> |
> | The same versions of wscript.exe are installed on both boxes.
> |
> | This a Filemon record up until the error box appears:
> |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/vbs_filemon.txt
> |
> | The Filemon output screen isn't mousable, but holding down the
> | Ctrl-Shift key plus Home/End/PgUp/PgDown and then selecting Edit >
> | Copy enables one to copy and paste the output into Notepad. Thanks to
> | MEB.
> |
> | As for TweakUI's IE settings, all but the following boxes are checked:
> |
> | Clear document, run, typed-URL history on exit
> | Show Favorites on Start Menu
> |
> | If I use Opera to open a .vbs file, it merely displays its contents.
> | Under Tools > Preferences > Advanced > Downloads there is no VBS file
> | type.
> |
> | ===============================================================
> |
> | While writing the above and trying things as I went, I finally got the
> | script to work. Unfortunately I lost track of what I did. :-(
> |
> | However, if I now rename scrrun.dll in the Windows\System directory to
> | scrrun.dl_, then the VB script breaks as before. Renaming other files
> | in the scr56en.exe package either has no effect, or produces other
> | errors. I notice that scrrun.dll appears in MEB's Filemon output
> | screen (thank you MEB) soon after mine errors out. Maybe that was the
> | problem all along.
> |
> | The following URL may offer an explanation for what happened:
> | http://www.auditmypc.com/process/scrrun.asp
> |
> | "The file, scrrun.dll, is used by windows when running scripts such as
> | those written with JScript or VBScript. If scrrun.dll is unavailable,
> | windows will not be able to execute scripts. If you do not use any
> | scripting on your computer you may be able to remove this file."
> |
> | Anyway I suspect that something broke my IE6 or WSH installation. I
> | hate installing updates and patches because this sort of thing seems
> | to happen to me a lot.
> |
> | Thanks to all for your help.
> |
> | - Franc Zabkar
> | --
> | Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcr...@netzero.net

Gary S. Terhune · Apr 30, 2008

Re: Bootup - Shutdown logger

Whoa, now. Don't bother to email me anything, and I did no such thing as
agree to host anything. I only host files that I write myself or that I
downloaded from known legitimate sources and which are left untouched.
Lastly, I only do it when I can find no other legitimate source to refer
others to.

Anyway, anything you email me is automatically disqualified. Unless I
get/got it directly from MS, it doesn't go up. You want it hosted, you gotta
do it yourself.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Lee" <melee5@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:234891b6-c92a-42dc-810e-18295566059a@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

<SNIP>
I'll be emailing Gary (from lee_454 AT Yahoo) the latest version for
all to enjoy the latest scripting host package - it is NOT available
anywhere else that I know of, so thanks a lot Gary, we need it hosted
somewhere. To view the version of files inside, open it with WinZip
and double click on the inf file to read, close to the bottom of it,
the version number. WinZip extracts just the inf file as a temporary
file in your TEMP folder and launches your default text file reader to
view it with, in such double click situations. To ensure trust, do
check the Digital Signature to see that it is a valid MS file that has
not been tampered with.

I once had a problem with script errors and found it was Norton's
scripting guard causing it because when I removed Norton my vbs spell
checker started working again with out the errors. Perhaps Franc has
Norton? The "Can't create ActiveX Object" error report is a common
one and more of a generic output than something specifically wrong
with the script itself although the script CAN be wrong and generate
the valid error - when the same script works for several other people
it is NOT an ActiveX error after all. Something else is going on with
Franc's machine. Getting him the latest Scripting Host package would
be number one on my list of things to do.

>
> | The above security settings
> | are also identical.
> |
> | These are the IE data for the good box:
> |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/xp2500IE.txt
> |
> | These are the IE data for the bad box:
> |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/xp2500IE.txt
> |
> | This is the difference between the two data sets:
> |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/diff_ie.txt
> |
> | I can find only one real difference and that is that the good box has
> | a later version of vbscript.dll. However using this version on the bad
> | box doesn't make the error go away.
> |
> | The good box also has Opera installed on it, although it is a much
> | earlier version.
> |
> | The same versions of wscript.exe are installed on both boxes.
> |
> | This a Filemon record up until the error box appears:
> |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/vbs_filemon.txt
> |
> | The Filemon output screen isn't mousable, but holding down the
> | Ctrl-Shift key plus Home/End/PgUp/PgDown and then selecting Edit >
> | Copy enables one to copy and paste the output into Notepad. Thanks to
> | MEB.
> |
> | As for TweakUI's IE settings, all but the following boxes are checked:
> |
> | Clear document, run, typed-URL history on exit
> | Show Favorites on Start Menu
> |
> | If I use Opera to open a .vbs file, it merely displays its contents.
> | Under Tools > Preferences > Advanced > Downloads there is no VBS file
> | type.
> |
> | ===============================================================
> |
> | While writing the above and trying things as I went, I finally got the
> | script to work. Unfortunately I lost track of what I did. :-(
> |
> | However, if I now rename scrrun.dll in the Windows\System directory to
> | scrrun.dl_, then the VB script breaks as before. Renaming other files
> | in the scr56en.exe package either has no effect, or produces other
> | errors. I notice that scrrun.dll appears in MEB's Filemon output
> | screen (thank you MEB) soon after mine errors out. Maybe that was the
> | problem all along.
> |
> | The following URL may offer an explanation for what happened:
> | http://www.auditmypc.com/process/scrrun.asp
> |
> | "The file, scrrun.dll, is used by windows when running scripts such as
> | those written with JScript or VBScript. If scrrun.dll is unavailable,
> | windows will not be able to execute scripts. If you do not use any
> | scripting on your computer you may be able to remove this file."
> |
> | Anyway I suspect that something broke my IE6 or WSH installation. I
> | hate installing updates and patches because this sort of thing seems
> | to happen to me a lot.
> |
> | Thanks to all for your help.
> |
> | - Franc Zabkar
> | --
> | Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcr...@netzero.net

MEB · Apr 30, 2008

Re: Bootup - Shutdown logger

Perhaps you need to contact MSFN and/or MDGx or one of the other
non-standard sites for hosting purposes of un-official files. Be aware that
they like to first test them for compatibility, though as many are running
highly modified versions of 9X those tests may not reflect everyone's
systems.

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"Lee" <melee5@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:234891b6-c92a-42dc-810e-18295566059a@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 23, 7:15 pm, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote:
> Franc Zabkar wrote:
>
> | On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:42:49 -0400, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> put
> | finger to keyboard and composed:
> |
> |>Another thing: what about your settings at...?...
> |>
> |>"Control Panel, Internet Options, Security tab, Select Internet (&
> |>maybe Local Intranet)"
> |>
> |>Are you at Default or Custom? If Custom, are the 3 Scripting options
> |>enabled? Mine are, (but not all the ActiveX options are enabled).
> |
> | I'll try to answer everyone's questions here.
> |
> | These are my security settings:
> |
> | Local intranet Medium-low
> | Trusted sites Low
> | Internet Medium
> | Restricted sites High
> |
> | I've tried setting Local intranet to Low but the error remained.
>
> Those settings were good, then. And I see you have solved the problem &
> possibly could stop now. Probably, some 3rd-party software renamed your
> Scrrun.dll as a security measure to prevent scripts from running, & you
> will be fine now that you renamed it back.
>
> | I've been able to successfully run Gary's .vbs script on my other
> | Win98SE box. Now I'm trying to find what is different about them.
> |
> | According to msinfo32.exe, the two boxes are both using IE6SP1 with
> | the same build version and same updates.
>
> I'm not seeing that you have taken all the updates, at "IE, Help,
> About"...!...
>
> Yours... ;SP1;q240308;q313829;Q330994;Q828750
> Mine....
> SP1, Q313829, Q328970, Q328389, Q324929, Q810847, Q813951, Q816506,
> Q813489, Q330994, Q818529, Q822925, Q828750, Q824145, Q832894,
> Q837009, Q831167, Q823353, Q867801, Q833989, Q834707, Q889293,
> Q867282, Q891781, Q890923, Q883939, Q896688, Q905915, Q912812,
> Q916281 & Q918439.
>
> Although mine is misleading (because the registry key the data comes
> from is not cleared of superceded updates, but the later ones are just
> added)... you need to go to Windows Update & get at least Q916281 &
> Q918439...
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-021.mspx
> Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-021
> Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer (916281)
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-022.mspx
> Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-022
> Vulnerability in ART Image Rendering Could Allow Remote Code Execution
> (918439)
>
> REMEMBER... To see the Win98 updates at Windows Update, you must go
> there from a Win98 machine. And that MSVCRT.dll you reported earlier
> looks suspiciously XP/Vista-irradiated to me...!...
>
> You Me
> MSVCRT.dll 6.10.8924.0 6.00.8797.0
>
> Also, your script files...
>
> jscript.dll 5.6.0.8513
> vbscript.dll 5.6.0.8515
>
> ...are STILL lower than my versions. Jugding from this SFCLog.txt of
> mine, you need at least one more update...
>
> [C:\WINDOWS]
> wscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> [c:\windows\COMMAND]
> cscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> [C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM]
> jscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> scrobj.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> vbscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> wshext.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> scrrun.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> wshom.ocx Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
>
> I'm not sure Windows Update will get that done for you. If not, I'll try
> harder to recall what it was that I ran (back in '06 says the date in
> SFCLog.txt) that got me updated to that.
>
> Well... wait a minute... I am seeing those files with those dates in my
> version of that file you mentioned... Scr56en.exe. Its Properties says
> my version is 5.50.4134.600. (Not sure where I got it from.)

Hi,PCR. Check again and you will notice that the version you quote is
for Wextract.exe which is the package itself and NOT the update files
it contains. Your vbs version of 5.6.0.8825 is the latest MS offered
from this now dead URL:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/downloads/list/webdev.asp

Begining with Gary's Scr56en.exe of 6626 version, MS would silently
update the version available from the above website such that one
always got the latest version. I have archived versions
6626
8515
8825

The only one I think I might be missing was 8513. You could only have
gotten your version 8825 from that source as it was never available
from the WinUP site for reasons I can't fathom at all. Update 917344
does update just Jscript.dll to 8831 version, and once again NONE of
these updates will retrograde any version of files backwards. Files
are only replaced if the incoming files are the same or higher
version. So when Franc re-applys his 6626 version update all his
script files should be getting refreshed provided they ARE the same
version.

I'll be emailing Gary (from lee_454 AT Yahoo) the latest version for
all to enjoy the latest scripting host package - it is NOT available
anywhere else that I know of, so thanks a lot Gary, we need it hosted
somewhere. To view the version of files inside, open it with WinZip
and double click on the inf file to read, close to the bottom of it,
the version number. WinZip extracts just the inf file as a temporary
file in your TEMP folder and launches your default text file reader to
view it with, in such double click situations. To ensure trust, do
check the Digital Signature to see that it is a valid MS file that has
not been tampered with.

I once had a problem with script errors and found it was Norton's
scripting guard causing it because when I removed Norton my vbs spell
checker started working again with out the errors. Perhaps Franc has
Norton? The "Can't create ActiveX Object" error report is a common
one and more of a generic output than something specifically wrong
with the script itself although the script CAN be wrong and generate
the valid error - when the same script works for several other people
it is NOT an ActiveX error after all. Something else is going on with
Franc's machine. Getting him the latest Scripting Host package would
be number one on my list of things to do.

>
> | The above security settings
> | are also identical.
> |
> | These are the IE data for the good box:
> |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/xp2500IE.txt
> |
> | These are the IE data for the bad box:
> |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/xp2500IE.txt
> |
> | This is the difference between the two data sets:
> |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/diff_ie.txt
> |
> | I can find only one real difference and that is that the good box has
> | a later version of vbscript.dll. However using this version on the bad
> | box doesn't make the error go away.
> |
> | The good box also has Opera installed on it, although it is a much
> | earlier version.
> |
> | The same versions of wscript.exe are installed on both boxes.
> |
> | This a Filemon record up until the error box appears:
> |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/vbs_filemon.txt
> |
> | The Filemon output screen isn't mousable, but holding down the
> | Ctrl-Shift key plus Home/End/PgUp/PgDown and then selecting Edit >
> | Copy enables one to copy and paste the output into Notepad. Thanks to
> | MEB.
> |
> | As for TweakUI's IE settings, all but the following boxes are checked:
> |
> | Clear document, run, typed-URL history on exit
> | Show Favorites on Start Menu
> |
> | If I use Opera to open a .vbs file, it merely displays its contents.
> | Under Tools > Preferences > Advanced > Downloads there is no VBS file
> | type.
> |
> | ===============================================================
> |
> | While writing the above and trying things as I went, I finally got the
> | script to work. Unfortunately I lost track of what I did. :-(
> |
> | However, if I now rename scrrun.dll in the Windows\System directory to
> | scrrun.dl_, then the VB script breaks as before. Renaming other files
> | in the scr56en.exe package either has no effect, or produces other
> | errors. I notice that scrrun.dll appears in MEB's Filemon output
> | screen (thank you MEB) soon after mine errors out. Maybe that was the
> | problem all along.
> |
> | The following URL may offer an explanation for what happened:
> | http://www.auditmypc.com/process/scrrun.asp
> |
> | "The file, scrrun.dll, is used by windows when running scripts such as
> | those written with JScript or VBScript. If scrrun.dll is unavailable,
> | windows will not be able to execute scripts. If you do not use any
> | scripting on your computer you may be able to remove this file."
> |
> | Anyway I suspect that something broke my IE6 or WSH installation. I
> | hate installing updates and patches because this sort of thing seems
> | to happen to me a lot.
> |
> | Thanks to all for your help.
> |
> | - Franc Zabkar
> | --
> | Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcr...@netzero.net

PCR · Apr 30, 2008

Re: Bootup - Shutdown logger

Lee wrote:
| On Apr 23, 7:15 pm, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote:
|> Franc Zabkar wrote:
|>
|> | On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:42:49 -0400, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> put
|> | finger to keyboard and composed:

....snip
|> Also, your script files...
|>
|> jscript.dll 5.6.0.8513
|> vbscript.dll 5.6.0.8515
|>
|> ...are STILL lower than my versions. Jugding from this SFCLog.txt of
|> mine, you need at least one more update...
|>
|> [C:\WINDOWS]
|> wscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
|> [c:\windows\COMMAND]
|> cscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
|> [C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM]
|> jscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
|> scrobj.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
|> vbscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
|> wshext.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
|> scrrun.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
|> wshom.ocx Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
|>
|> I'm not sure Windows Update will get that done for you. If not, I'll
|> try harder to recall what it was that I ran (back in '06 says the
|> date in SFCLog.txt) that got me updated to that.

Subsequently (as I posted elsewhere) I did discover a later entry in
my SFCLog.txt showing...

jscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 5.6.0.8831 5/17/06 No

...., & a notation of about 5 critical updates having been run. But
VBScript.dll has remained at v.5.6.0.8825.

|> Well... wait a minute... I am seeing those files with those dates in
|> my version of that file you mentioned... Scr56en.exe. Its Properties
|> says my version is 5.50.4134.600. (Not sure where I got it from.)
|
|
| Hi,PCR. Check again and you will notice that the version you quote is
| for Wextract.exe which is the package itself and NOT the update files
| it contains.

I am reporting the version of Scr56en.exe, itself, to be 5.50.4134.600,
which shows in Version tab of its Properties. All of the files inside
that match the bove SFCLog.txt seem to be v.5.6.0.8825 & have the same
date. I did extract the two script .dll's with WinZip to verify it.
There is no WExtract.exe inside of Scr56en.exe than I can see. HOWEVER,
I do see extra files inside that do not appear in SFC log. I presume
they are temporary files, or that I already had exact matches for them.
Another possibility is that some files in there are for other OS than
Win98SE. WinZip shows a total of 16 files in there of various dates! And
only 8 show up in that SFC log & all of one date!

Here are the ones that did not show up...

Advpack.dll 6/6/00 8/29/02
Dispex.dll 6/26/01 6/26/01
Scr56en.cat 9/16/04 None
Scr56en.inf 9/16/04 9/16/04
W95inf16.dll 6/6/00 4/23/95
W95inf32.dll 6/6/00 9/17/96
Wscript.hlp 6/6/00 6/26/01
Wschcon.dll 8/8/04 None

The 1st date is the one inside Scr56en.exe. The 2nd is the date of the
file in my system. "None" means I don't have the file. SO... looks like
a few files may have been for temporary use, but the bulk of the
"missing" ones weren't extracted (for SFC to notice) because the system
already had higher versions (judging by the dates).

| Your vbs version of 5.6.0.8825 is the latest MS offered
| from this now dead URL:
|
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/downloads/list/webdev.asp

I'm afraid I can't recall where I got mine from. Doubting it came that
way from Windows Update, someone once must have posted a link to it
(Scr56en.exe) here in this NG. But I see Terhune is denying it!

| Begining with Gary's Scr56en.exe of 6626 version, MS would silently
| update the version available from the above website such that one
| always got the latest version. I have archived versions
| 6626
| 8515
| 8825
|
| The only one I think I might be missing was 8513. You could only have
| gotten your version 8825 from that source as it was never available
| from the WinUP site for reasons I can't fathom at all. Update 917344
| does update just Jscript.dll to 8831 version,

OK-- Security Update for Windows 98 (KB917344) is one of 5 in my notes
for that SFC run. OK, that must have been the one that got me to
Jscript.dll 5.6.0.8831.

| and once again NONE of
| these updates will retrograde any version of files backwards. Files
| are only replaced if the incoming files are the same or higher
| version.

That seems to be true also from what I report above. I wasn't sure.

| So when Franc re-applys his 6626 version update all his
| script files should be getting refreshed provided they ARE the same
| version.

OK. Thanks for the information, which seems to agree with my recent
findings. I agree he should run his Scr56en.exe, especially if it,
itself, is version 5.50.4134.600. That would give him a better
VBScript.dll of v.5.6.0.8825-- & not degrade his VScript.dll of
v.5.6.0.8831.

| I'll be emailing Gary (from lee_454 AT Yahoo) the latest version for
| all to enjoy the latest scripting host package - it is NOT available
| anywhere else that I know of, so thanks a lot Gary, we need it hosted
| somewhere. To view the version of files inside, open it with WinZip
| and double click on the inf file to read, close to the bottom of it,
| the version number.

Mine contains thess lines...

HKLM,%ActiveSetupRegKey%,"Version",0,"5,6,0,8825"

ActiveSetupRegKey= "SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed
Components\{4f645220-306d-11d2-995d-00c04f98bbc9}"

And, going to that Registry key, indeed I see that version. I am content
to know my VScript.dll is v...8831.

| WinZip extracts just the inf file as a temporary
| file in your TEMP folder and launches your default text file reader to
| view it with, in such double click situations.

I was afraid of WinZip's message warning against running an .inf.
Therefore, I extracted just that .inf & then clicked it-- which did as
usual open it in Notepad.

| To ensure trust, do
| check the Digital Signature to see that it is a valid MS file that has
| not been tampered with.

Huh? To do that, is it sufficient to go to its Properties, Digital
Signature tab, & see that it says...?...

Microsoft Corporation, Thursday, September 16, 2004 06:40:10 PM.

| I once had a problem with script errors and found it was Norton's
| scripting guard causing it because when I removed Norton my vbs spell
| checker started working again with out the errors. Perhaps Franc has
| Norton? The "Can't create ActiveX Object" error report is a common
| one and more of a generic output than something specifically wrong
| with the script itself although the script CAN be wrong and generate
| the valid error - when the same script works for several other people
| it is NOT an ActiveX error after all. Something else is going on with
| Franc's machine. Getting him the latest Scripting Host package would
| be number one on my list of things to do.

That's what I thought, that he should update the host. The problem is
gone. We think something had renamed his Scrrun.dll as a security
measure. Now that he's got it back, he is fine!

|>
|> | The above security settings
|> | are also identical.
|> |
|> | These are the IE data for the good box:
|> |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/xp2500IE.txt
|> |
|> | These are the IE data for the bad box:
|> |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/xp2500IE.txt
|> |
|> | This is the difference between the two data sets:
|> |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/diff_ie.txt
|> |
|> | I can find only one real difference and that is that the good box
|> | has a later version of vbscript.dll. However using this version on
|> | the bad box doesn't make the error go away.
|> |
|> | The good box also has Opera installed on it, although it is a much
|> | earlier version.
|> |
|> | The same versions of wscript.exe are installed on both boxes.
|> |
|> | This a Filemon record up until the error box appears:
|> |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/vbs_filemon.txt
|> |
|> | The Filemon output screen isn't mousable, but holding down the
|> | Ctrl-Shift key plus Home/End/PgUp/PgDown and then selecting Edit >
|> | Copy enables one to copy and paste the output into Notepad. Thanks
|> | to MEB.
|> |
|> | As for TweakUI's IE settings, all but the following boxes are
|> | checked:
|> |
|> | Clear document, run, typed-URL history on exit
|> | Show Favorites on Start Menu
|> |
|> | If I use Opera to open a .vbs file, it merely displays its
|> | contents. Under Tools > Preferences > Advanced > Downloads there
|> | is no VBS file type.
|> |
|> | ===============================================================
|> |
|> | While writing the above and trying things as I went, I finally got
|> | the script to work. Unfortunately I lost track of what I did. :-(
|> |
|> | However, if I now rename scrrun.dll in the Windows\System
|> | directory to scrrun.dl_, then the VB script breaks as before.
|> | Renaming other files in the scr56en.exe package either has no
|> | effect, or produces other errors. I notice that scrrun.dll appears
|> | in MEB's Filemon output screen (thank you MEB) soon after mine
|> | errors out. Maybe that was the problem all along.
|> |
|> | The following URL may offer an explanation for what happened:
|> | http://www.auditmypc.com/process/scrrun.asp
|> |
|> | "The file, scrrun.dll, is used by windows when running scripts
|> | such as those written with JScript or VBScript. If scrrun.dll is
|> | unavailable, windows will not be able to execute scripts. If you
|> | do not use any scripting on your computer you may be able to
|> | remove this file."
|> |
|> | Anyway I suspect that something broke my IE6 or WSH installation. I
|> | hate installing updates and patches because this sort of thing
|> | seems to happen to me a lot.
|> |
|> | Thanks to all for your help.
|> |
|> | - Franc Zabkar
|> | --
|> | Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcr...@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

Gary S. Terhune · May 1, 2008

Re: Bootup - Shutdown logger

I have discovered that I also have version 8825 of SCR56EN. I'll put that on
my site instead of v. 6626. Have you guys decided if there are any problems
with 8825?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"Lee" <melee5@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:234891b6-c92a-42dc-810e-18295566059a@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 23, 7:15 pm, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote:
> Franc Zabkar wrote:
>
> | On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:42:49 -0400, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> put
> | finger to keyboard and composed:
> |
> |>Another thing: what about your settings at...?...
> |>
> |>"Control Panel, Internet Options, Security tab, Select Internet (&
> |>maybe Local Intranet)"
> |>
> |>Are you at Default or Custom? If Custom, are the 3 Scripting options
> |>enabled? Mine are, (but not all the ActiveX options are enabled).
> |
> | I'll try to answer everyone's questions here.
> |
> | These are my security settings:
> |
> | Local intranet Medium-low
> | Trusted sites Low
> | Internet Medium
> | Restricted sites High
> |
> | I've tried setting Local intranet to Low but the error remained.
>
> Those settings were good, then. And I see you have solved the problem &
> possibly could stop now. Probably, some 3rd-party software renamed your
> Scrrun.dll as a security measure to prevent scripts from running, & you
> will be fine now that you renamed it back.
>
> | I've been able to successfully run Gary's .vbs script on my other
> | Win98SE box. Now I'm trying to find what is different about them.
> |
> | According to msinfo32.exe, the two boxes are both using IE6SP1 with
> | the same build version and same updates.
>
> I'm not seeing that you have taken all the updates, at "IE, Help,
> About"...!...
>
> Yours... ;SP1;q240308;q313829;Q330994;Q828750
> Mine....
> SP1, Q313829, Q328970, Q328389, Q324929, Q810847, Q813951, Q816506,
> Q813489, Q330994, Q818529, Q822925, Q828750, Q824145, Q832894,
> Q837009, Q831167, Q823353, Q867801, Q833989, Q834707, Q889293,
> Q867282, Q891781, Q890923, Q883939, Q896688, Q905915, Q912812,
> Q916281 & Q918439.
>
> Although mine is misleading (because the registry key the data comes
> from is not cleared of superceded updates, but the later ones are just
> added)... you need to go to Windows Update & get at least Q916281 &
> Q918439...
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-021.mspx
> Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-021
> Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer (916281)
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-022.mspx
> Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-022
> Vulnerability in ART Image Rendering Could Allow Remote Code Execution
> (918439)
>
> REMEMBER... To see the Win98 updates at Windows Update, you must go
> there from a Win98 machine. And that MSVCRT.dll you reported earlier
> looks suspiciously XP/Vista-irradiated to me...!...
>
> You Me
> MSVCRT.dll 6.10.8924.0 6.00.8797.0
>
> Also, your script files...
>
> jscript.dll 5.6.0.8513
> vbscript.dll 5.6.0.8515
>
> ...are STILL lower than my versions. Jugding from this SFCLog.txt of
> mine, you need at least one more update...
>
> [C:\WINDOWS]
> wscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> [c:\windows\COMMAND]
> cscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> [C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM]
> jscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> scrobj.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> vbscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> wshext.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> scrrun.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> wshom.ocx Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
>
> I'm not sure Windows Update will get that done for you. If not, I'll try
> harder to recall what it was that I ran (back in '06 says the date in
> SFCLog.txt) that got me updated to that.
>
> Well... wait a minute... I am seeing those files with those dates in my
> version of that file you mentioned... Scr56en.exe. Its Properties says
> my version is 5.50.4134.600. (Not sure where I got it from.)

Hi,PCR. Check again and you will notice that the version you quote is
for Wextract.exe which is the package itself and NOT the update files
it contains. Your vbs version of 5.6.0.8825 is the latest MS offered
from this now dead URL:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/downloads/list/webdev.asp

Begining with Gary's Scr56en.exe of 6626 version, MS would silently
update the version available from the above website such that one
always got the latest version. I have archived versions
6626
8515
8825

The only one I think I might be missing was 8513. You could only have
gotten your version 8825 from that source as it was never available
from the WinUP site for reasons I can't fathom at all. Update 917344
does update just Jscript.dll to 8831 version, and once again NONE of
these updates will retrograde any version of files backwards. Files
are only replaced if the incoming files are the same or higher
version. So when Franc re-applys his 6626 version update all his
script files should be getting refreshed provided they ARE the same
version.

I'll be emailing Gary (from lee_454 AT Yahoo) the latest version for
all to enjoy the latest scripting host package - it is NOT available
anywhere else that I know of, so thanks a lot Gary, we need it hosted
somewhere. To view the version of files inside, open it with WinZip
and double click on the inf file to read, close to the bottom of it,
the version number. WinZip extracts just the inf file as a temporary
file in your TEMP folder and launches your default text file reader to
view it with, in such double click situations. To ensure trust, do
check the Digital Signature to see that it is a valid MS file that has
not been tampered with.

I once had a problem with script errors and found it was Norton's
scripting guard causing it because when I removed Norton my vbs spell
checker started working again with out the errors. Perhaps Franc has
Norton? The "Can't create ActiveX Object" error report is a common
one and more of a generic output than something specifically wrong
with the script itself although the script CAN be wrong and generate
the valid error - when the same script works for several other people
it is NOT an ActiveX error after all. Something else is going on with
Franc's machine. Getting him the latest Scripting Host package would
be number one on my list of things to do.

>
> | The above security settings
> | are also identical.
> |
> | These are the IE data for the good box:
> |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/xp2500IE.txt
> |
> | These are the IE data for the bad box:
> |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/xp2500IE.txt
> |
> | This is the difference between the two data sets:
> |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/diff_ie.txt
> |
> | I can find only one real difference and that is that the good box has
> | a later version of vbscript.dll. However using this version on the bad
> | box doesn't make the error go away.
> |
> | The good box also has Opera installed on it, although it is a much
> | earlier version.
> |
> | The same versions of wscript.exe are installed on both boxes.
> |
> | This a Filemon record up until the error box appears:
> |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/vbs_filemon.txt
> |
> | The Filemon output screen isn't mousable, but holding down the
> | Ctrl-Shift key plus Home/End/PgUp/PgDown and then selecting Edit >
> | Copy enables one to copy and paste the output into Notepad. Thanks to
> | MEB.
> |
> | As for TweakUI's IE settings, all but the following boxes are checked:
> |
> | Clear document, run, typed-URL history on exit
> | Show Favorites on Start Menu
> |
> | If I use Opera to open a .vbs file, it merely displays its contents.
> | Under Tools > Preferences > Advanced > Downloads there is no VBS file
> | type.
> |
> | ===============================================================
> |
> | While writing the above and trying things as I went, I finally got the
> | script to work. Unfortunately I lost track of what I did. :-(
> |
> | However, if I now rename scrrun.dll in the Windows\System directory to
> | scrrun.dl_, then the VB script breaks as before. Renaming other files
> | in the scr56en.exe package either has no effect, or produces other
> | errors. I notice that scrrun.dll appears in MEB's Filemon output
> | screen (thank you MEB) soon after mine errors out. Maybe that was the
> | problem all along.
> |
> | The following URL may offer an explanation for what happened:
> | http://www.auditmypc.com/process/scrrun.asp
> |
> | "The file, scrrun.dll, is used by windows when running scripts such as
> | those written with JScript or VBScript. If scrrun.dll is unavailable,
> | windows will not be able to execute scripts. If you do not use any
> | scripting on your computer you may be able to remove this file."
> |
> | Anyway I suspect that something broke my IE6 or WSH installation. I
> | hate installing updates and patches because this sort of thing seems
> | to happen to me a lot.
> |
> | Thanks to all for your help.
> |
> | - Franc Zabkar
> | --
> | Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcr...@netzero.net

PCR · May 2, 2008

Re: Bootup - Shutdown logger

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
| I have discovered that I also have version 8825 of SCR56EN. I'll put
| that on my site instead of v. 6626. Have you guys decided if there
| are any problems with 8825?

There's no problem with it on my machine. It provides both a JScript.dll
& a VBScript.dll of v.5.6.0.8825. Zabcar's currently has...

jscript.dll 5.6.0.8831
vbscript.dll 5.6.0.7426

We think he should run Scr56en.exe v.5.50.4134.600, which contains files
of v...8825. It will lift his VBScript.dll & leave the other alone.
(However, the actual problem he reported already is solved, i.e., he can
run the .vbs files you posted now.)

| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "Lee" <melee5@my-deja.com> wrote in message
|
news:234891b6-c92a-42dc-810e-18295566059a@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
| On Apr 23, 7:15 pm, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote:
|> Franc Zabkar wrote:
|>
|> | On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:42:49 -0400, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> put
|> | finger to keyboard and composed:
|> |
|> |>Another thing: what about your settings at...?...
|> |>
|> |>"Control Panel, Internet Options, Security tab, Select Internet (&
|> |>maybe Local Intranet)"
|> |>
|> |>Are you at Default or Custom? If Custom, are the 3 Scripting
|> |>options enabled? Mine are, (but not all the ActiveX options are
|> |>enabled).
|> |
|> | I'll try to answer everyone's questions here.
|> |
|> | These are my security settings:
|> |
|> | Local intranet Medium-low
|> | Trusted sites Low
|> | Internet Medium
|> | Restricted sites High
|> |
|> | I've tried setting Local intranet to Low but the error remained.
|>
|> Those settings were good, then. And I see you have solved the
|> problem & possibly could stop now. Probably, some 3rd-party software
|> renamed your Scrrun.dll as a security measure to prevent scripts
|> from running, & you will be fine now that you renamed it back.
|>
|> | I've been able to successfully run Gary's .vbs script on my other
|> | Win98SE box. Now I'm trying to find what is different about them.
|> |
|> | According to msinfo32.exe, the two boxes are both using IE6SP1 with
|> | the same build version and same updates.
|>
|> I'm not seeing that you have taken all the updates, at "IE, Help,
|> About"...!...
|>
|> Yours... ;SP1;q240308;q313829;Q330994;Q828750
|> Mine....
|> SP1, Q313829, Q328970, Q328389, Q324929, Q810847, Q813951, Q816506,
|> Q813489, Q330994, Q818529, Q822925, Q828750, Q824145, Q832894,
|> Q837009, Q831167, Q823353, Q867801, Q833989, Q834707, Q889293,
|> Q867282, Q891781, Q890923, Q883939, Q896688, Q905915, Q912812,
|> Q916281 & Q918439.
|>
|> Although mine is misleading (because the registry key the data comes
|> from is not cleared of superceded updates, but the later ones are
|> just added)... you need to go to Windows Update & get at least
|> Q916281 & Q918439...
|>
|> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-021.mspx
|> Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-021
|> Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer (916281)
|>
|> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-022.mspx
|> Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-022
|> Vulnerability in ART Image Rendering Could Allow Remote Code
|> Execution (918439)
|>
|> REMEMBER... To see the Win98 updates at Windows Update, you must go
|> there from a Win98 machine. And that MSVCRT.dll you reported earlier
|> looks suspiciously XP/Vista-irradiated to me...!...
|>
|> You Me
|> MSVCRT.dll 6.10.8924.0 6.00.8797.0
|>
|> Also, your script files...
|>
|> jscript.dll 5.6.0.8513
|> vbscript.dll 5.6.0.8515
|>
|> ...are STILL lower than my versions. Jugding from this SFCLog.txt of
|> mine, you need at least one more update...
|>
|> [C:\WINDOWS]
|> wscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
|> [c:\windows\COMMAND]
|> cscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
|> [C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM]
|> jscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
|> scrobj.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
|> vbscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
|> wshext.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
|> scrrun.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
|> wshom.ocx Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
|>
|> I'm not sure Windows Update will get that done for you. If not, I'll
|> try harder to recall what it was that I ran (back in '06 says the
|> date in SFCLog.txt) that got me updated to that.
|>
|> Well... wait a minute... I am seeing those files with those dates in
|> my version of that file you mentioned... Scr56en.exe. Its Properties
|> says my version is 5.50.4134.600. (Not sure where I got it from.)
|
|
| Hi,PCR. Check again and you will notice that the version you quote is
| for Wextract.exe which is the package itself and NOT the update files
| it contains. Your vbs version of 5.6.0.8825 is the latest MS offered
| from this now dead URL:
|
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/downloads/list/webdev.asp
|
| Begining with Gary's Scr56en.exe of 6626 version, MS would silently
| update the version available from the above website such that one
| always got the latest version. I have archived versions
| 6626
| 8515
| 8825
|
| The only one I think I might be missing was 8513. You could only have
| gotten your version 8825 from that source as it was never available
| from the WinUP site for reasons I can't fathom at all. Update 917344
| does update just Jscript.dll to 8831 version, and once again NONE of
| these updates will retrograde any version of files backwards. Files
| are only replaced if the incoming files are the same or higher
| version. So when Franc re-applys his 6626 version update all his
| script files should be getting refreshed provided they ARE the same
| version.
|
| I'll be emailing Gary (from lee_454 AT Yahoo) the latest version for
| all to enjoy the latest scripting host package - it is NOT available
| anywhere else that I know of, so thanks a lot Gary, we need it hosted
| somewhere. To view the version of files inside, open it with WinZip
| and double click on the inf file to read, close to the bottom of it,
| the version number. WinZip extracts just the inf file as a temporary
| file in your TEMP folder and launches your default text file reader to
| view it with, in such double click situations. To ensure trust, do
| check the Digital Signature to see that it is a valid MS file that has
| not been tampered with.
|
| I once had a problem with script errors and found it was Norton's
| scripting guard causing it because when I removed Norton my vbs spell
| checker started working again with out the errors. Perhaps Franc has
| Norton? The "Can't create ActiveX Object" error report is a common
| one and more of a generic output than something specifically wrong
| with the script itself although the script CAN be wrong and generate
| the valid error - when the same script works for several other people
| it is NOT an ActiveX error after all. Something else is going on with
| Franc's machine. Getting him the latest Scripting Host package would
| be number one on my list of things to do.
|
|>
|> | The above security settings
|> | are also identical.
|> |
|> | These are the IE data for the good box:
|> |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/xp2500IE.txt
|> |
|> | These are the IE data for the bad box:
|> |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/xp2500IE.txt
|> |
|> | This is the difference between the two data sets:
|> |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/diff_ie.txt
|> |
|> | I can find only one real difference and that is that the good box
|> | has a later version of vbscript.dll. However using this version on
|> | the bad box doesn't make the error go away.
|> |
|> | The good box also has Opera installed on it, although it is a much
|> | earlier version.
|> |
|> | The same versions of wscript.exe are installed on both boxes.
|> |
|> | This a Filemon record up until the error box appears:
|> |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/vbs_filemon.txt
|> |
|> | The Filemon output screen isn't mousable, but holding down the
|> | Ctrl-Shift key plus Home/End/PgUp/PgDown and then selecting Edit >
|> | Copy enables one to copy and paste the output into Notepad. Thanks
|> | to MEB.
|> |
|> | As for TweakUI's IE settings, all but the following boxes are
|> | checked:
|> |
|> | Clear document, run, typed-URL history on exit
|> | Show Favorites on Start Menu
|> |
|> | If I use Opera to open a .vbs file, it merely displays its
|> | contents. Under Tools > Preferences > Advanced > Downloads there
|> | is no VBS file type.
|> |
|> | ===============================================================
|> |
|> | While writing the above and trying things as I went, I finally got
|> | the script to work. Unfortunately I lost track of what I did. :-(
|> |
|> | However, if I now rename scrrun.dll in the Windows\System
|> | directory to scrrun.dl_, then the VB script breaks as before.
|> | Renaming other files in the scr56en.exe package either has no
|> | effect, or produces other errors. I notice that scrrun.dll appears
|> | in MEB's Filemon output screen (thank you MEB) soon after mine
|> | errors out. Maybe that was the problem all along.
|> |
|> | The following URL may offer an explanation for what happened:
|> | http://www.auditmypc.com/process/scrrun.asp
|> |
|> | "The file, scrrun.dll, is used by windows when running scripts
|> | such as those written with JScript or VBScript. If scrrun.dll is
|> | unavailable, windows will not be able to execute scripts. If you
|> | do not use any scripting on your computer you may be able to
|> | remove this file."
|> |
|> | Anyway I suspect that something broke my IE6 or WSH installation. I
|> | hate installing updates and patches because this sort of thing
|> | seems to happen to me a lot.
|> |
|> | Thanks to all for your help.
|> |
|> | - Franc Zabkar
|> | --
|> | Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcr...@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

Lee · May 2, 2008

Re: Bootup - Shutdown logger

Thanks Gary, I can report not a single problem with version 8825
Scripting Host on my machine.

MEB - MDGx.com already has an unofficial 5.6 and 5.7 9x scripting host
packages, I was holding out for the official version for the very
reasons you mention.

PCR - Wextract is the engine of the update executable package itself,
it's version numbers vary a lot so it's not much use by itself. But
the digital signature of it both shows you the Signatory of the
package and that it has not been tampered with since by the word and
standing of the Signatory which in this case is MS - which is good
enough for me to trust it.

On May 1, 7:48 am, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
> I have discovered that I also have version 8825 of SCR56EN. I'll put that on
> my site instead of v. 6626. Have you guys decided if there are any problems
> with 8825?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/Userwww.grystmill.com
>
> "Lee" <mel...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>
> news:234891b6-c92a-42dc-810e-18295566059a@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 23, 7:15 pm, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Franc Zabkar wrote:
>
> > | On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:42:49 -0400, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> put
> > | finger to keyboard and composed:
> > |
> > |>Another thing: what about your settings at...?...
> > |>
> > |>"Control Panel, Internet Options, Security tab, Select Internet (&
> > |>maybe Local Intranet)"
> > |>
> > |>Are you at Default or Custom? If Custom, are the 3 Scripting options
> > |>enabled? Mine are, (but not all the ActiveX options are enabled).
> > |
> > | I'll try to answer everyone's questions here.
> > |
> > | These are my security settings:
> > |
> > | Local intranet Medium-low
> > | Trusted sites Low
> > | Internet Medium
> > | Restricted sites High
> > |
> > | I've tried setting Local intranet to Low but the error remained.
>
> > Those settings were good, then. And I see you have solved the problem &
> > possibly could stop now. Probably, some 3rd-party software renamed your
> > Scrrun.dll as a security measure to prevent scripts from running, & you
> > will be fine now that you renamed it back.
>
> > | I've been able to successfully run Gary's .vbs script on my other
> > | Win98SE box. Now I'm trying to find what is different about them.
> > |
> > | According to msinfo32.exe, the two boxes are both using IE6SP1 with
> > | the same build version and same updates.
>
> > I'm not seeing that you have taken all the updates, at "IE, Help,
> > About"...!...
>
> > Yours... ;SP1;q240308;q313829;Q330994;Q828750
> > Mine....
> > SP1, Q313829, Q328970, Q328389, Q324929, Q810847, Q813951, Q816506,
> > Q813489, Q330994, Q818529, Q822925, Q828750, Q824145, Q832894,
> > Q837009, Q831167, Q823353, Q867801, Q833989, Q834707, Q889293,
> > Q867282, Q891781, Q890923, Q883939, Q896688, Q905915, Q912812,
> > Q916281 & Q918439.
>
> > Although mine is misleading (because the registry key the data comes
> > from is not cleared of superceded updates, but the later ones are just
> > added)... you need to go to Windows Update & get at least Q916281 &
> > Q918439...
>
> >http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-021.mspx
> > Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-021
> > Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer (916281)
>
> >http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-022.mspx
> > Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-022
> > Vulnerability in ART Image Rendering Could Allow Remote Code Execution
> > (918439)
>
> > REMEMBER... To see the Win98 updates at Windows Update, you must go
> > there from a Win98 machine. And that MSVCRT.dll you reported earlier
> > looks suspiciously XP/Vista-irradiated to me...!...
>
> > You Me
> > MSVCRT.dll 6.10.8924.0 6.00.8797.0
>
> > Also, your script files...
>
> > jscript.dll 5.6.0.8513
> > vbscript.dll 5.6.0.8515
>
> > ...are STILL lower than my versions. Jugding from this SFCLog.txt of
> > mine, you need at least one more update...
>
> > [C:\WINDOWS]
> > wscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> > [c:\windows\COMMAND]
> > cscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> > [C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM]
> > jscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> > scrobj.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> > vbscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> > wshext.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> > scrrun.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> > wshom.ocx Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
>
> > I'm not sure Windows Update will get that done for you. If not, I'll try
> > harder to recall what it was that I ran (back in '06 says the date in
> > SFCLog.txt) that got me updated to that.
>
> > Well... wait a minute... I am seeing those files with those dates in my
> > version of that file you mentioned... Scr56en.exe. Its Properties says
> > my version is 5.50.4134.600. (Not sure where I got it from.)
>
> Hi,PCR. Check again and you will notice that the version you quote is
> for Wextract.exe which is the package itself and NOT the update files
> it contains. Your vbs version of 5.6.0.8825 is the latest MS offered
> from this now dead URL:http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/downloads/list/web...
>
> Begining with Gary's Scr56en.exe of 6626 version, MS would silently
> update the version available from the above website such that one
> always got the latest version. I have archived versions
> 6626
> 8515
> 8825
>
> The only one I think I might be missing was 8513. You could only have
> gotten your version 8825 from that source as it was never available
> from the WinUP site for reasons I can't fathom at all. Update 917344
> does update just Jscript.dll to 8831 version, and once again NONE of
> these updates will retrograde any version of files backwards. Files
> are only replaced if the incoming files are the same or higher
> version. So when Franc re-applys his 6626 version update all his
> script files should be getting refreshed provided they ARE the same
> version.
>
> I'll be emailing Gary (from lee_454 AT Yahoo) the latest version for
> all to enjoy the latest scripting host package - it is NOT available
> anywhere else that I know of, so thanks a lot Gary, we need it hosted
> somewhere. To view the version of files inside, open it with WinZip
> and double click on the inf file to read, close to the bottom of it,
> the version number. WinZip extracts just the inf file as a temporary
> file in your TEMP folder and launches your default text file reader to
> view it with, in such double click situations. To ensure trust, do
> check the Digital Signature to see that it is a valid MS file that has
> not been tampered with.
>
> I once had a problem with script errors and found it was Norton's
> scripting guard causing it because when I removed Norton my vbs spell
> checker started working again with out the errors. Perhaps Franc has
> Norton? The "Can't create ActiveX Object" error report is a common
> one and more of a generic output than something specifically wrong
> with the script itself although the script CAN be wrong and generate
> the valid error - when the same script works for several other people
> it is NOT an ActiveX error after all. Something else is going on with
> Franc's machine. Getting him the latest Scripting Host package would
> be number one on my list of things to do.
>
>
>
>
>
> > | The above security settings
> > | are also identical.
> > |
> > | These are the IE data for the good box:
> > |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/xp2500IE.txt
> > |
> > | These are the IE data for the bad box:
> > |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/xp2500IE.txt
> > |
> > | This is the difference between the two data sets:
> > |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/diff_ie.txt
> > |
> > | I can find only one real difference and that is that the good box has
> > | a later version of vbscript.dll. However using this version on the bad
> > | box doesn't make the error go away.
> > |
> > | The good box also has Opera installed on it, although it is a much
> > | earlier version.
> > |
> > | The same versions of wscript.exe are installed on both boxes.
> > |
> > | This a Filemon record up until the error box appears:
> > |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/vbs_filemon.txt
> > |
> > | The Filemon output screen isn't mousable, but holding down the
> > | Ctrl-Shift key plus Home/End/PgUp/PgDown and then selecting Edit >
> > | Copy enables one to copy and paste the output into Notepad. Thanks to
> > | MEB.
> > |
> > | As for TweakUI's IE settings, all but the following boxes are checked:
> > |
> > | Clear document, run, typed-URL history on exit
> > | Show Favorites on Start Menu
> > |
> > | If I use Opera to open a .vbs file, it merely displays its contents.
> > | Under Tools > Preferences > Advanced > Downloads there is no VBS file
> > | type.
> > |
> > | ===============================================================
> > |
> > | While writing the above and trying things as I went, I finally got the
> > | script to work. Unfortunately I lost track of what I did. :-(
> > |
> > | However, if I now rename scrrun.dll in the Windows\System directory to
> > | scrrun.dl_, then the VB script breaks as before. Renaming other files
> > | in the scr56en.exe package either has no effect, or produces other
> > | errors. I notice that scrrun.dll appears in MEB's Filemon output
> > | screen (thank you MEB) soon after mine errors out. Maybe that was the
> > | problem all along.
> > |
> > | The following URL may offer an explanation for what happened:
> > |http://www.auditmypc.com/process/scrrun.asp
> > |
> > | "The file, scrrun.dll, is used by windows when running scripts such as
> > | those written with JScript or VBScript. If scrrun.dll is unavailable,
> > | windows will not be able to execute scripts. If you do not use any
> > | scripting on your computer you may be able to remove this file."
> > |
> > | Anyway I suspect that something broke my IE6 or WSH installation. I
> > | hate installing updates and patches because this sort of thing seems
> > | to happen to me a lot.
> > |
> > | Thanks to all for your help.
> > |
> > | - Franc Zabkar
> > | --
> > | Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
>
> > --
> > Thanks or Good Luck,
> > There may be humor in this post, and,
> > Naturally, you will not sue,
> > Should things get worse after this,
> > PCR
> > pcr...@netzero.net- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

PCR · May 2, 2008

Re: Bootup - Shutdown logger

Lee wrote:
| Thanks Gary, I can report not a single problem with version 8825
| Scripting Host on my machine.
|
| MEB - MDGx.com already has an unofficial 5.6 and 5.7 9x scripting host
| packages, I was holding out for the official version for the very
| reasons you mention.
|
| PCR - Wextract is the engine of the update executable package itself,
| it's version numbers vary a lot so it's not much use by itself. But
| the digital signature of it both shows you the Signatory of the
| package and that it has not been tampered with since by the word and
| standing of the Signatory which in this case is MS - which is good
| enough for me to trust it.

OK. There certainly are a lot version numbers associated with the
various Scr56en.exe. But why not just R-Clk it, Properties, Version tab?
Mine says v.5.50.4134.600 there. And inside are files of v...8825. Won't
that always be true?

| On May 1, 7:48 am, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
|> I have discovered that I also have version 8825 of SCR56EN. I'll put
|> that on
|> my site instead of v. 6626. Have you guys decided if there are any
|> problems
|> with 8825?
|>
|> --
|> Gary S. Terhune
|> MS-MVP Shell/Userwww.grystmill.com
|>

....snip
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

MEB · May 2, 2008

Re: Bootup - Shutdown logger

Interesting.

I have:
5.6.0.6626 wscript.exe
5.6.0.6626 cscript.exe

And those were provided by Windows Update in this last clean install...

So where did the updated files come from....

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"Lee" <melee5@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:f6690c5f-3fe5-4b3f-8ee6-27a6257c2837@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
Thanks Gary, I can report not a single problem with version 8825
Scripting Host on my machine.

MEB - MDGx.com already has an unofficial 5.6 and 5.7 9x scripting host
packages, I was holding out for the official version for the very
reasons you mention.

PCR - Wextract is the engine of the update executable package itself,
it's version numbers vary a lot so it's not much use by itself. But
the digital signature of it both shows you the Signatory of the
package and that it has not been tampered with since by the word and
standing of the Signatory which in this case is MS - which is good
enough for me to trust it.

On May 1, 7:48 am, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
> I have discovered that I also have version 8825 of SCR56EN. I'll put that
on
> my site instead of v. 6626. Have you guys decided if there are any
problems
> with 8825?
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS-MVP Shell/Userwww.grystmill.com
>
> "Lee" <mel...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>
> news:234891b6-c92a-42dc-810e-18295566059a@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 23, 7:15 pm, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Franc Zabkar wrote:
>
> > | On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:42:49 -0400, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> put
> > | finger to keyboard and composed:
> > |
> > |>Another thing: what about your settings at...?...
> > |>
> > |>"Control Panel, Internet Options, Security tab, Select Internet (&
> > |>maybe Local Intranet)"
> > |>
> > |>Are you at Default or Custom? If Custom, are the 3 Scripting options
> > |>enabled? Mine are, (but not all the ActiveX options are enabled).
> > |
> > | I'll try to answer everyone's questions here.
> > |
> > | These are my security settings:
> > |
> > | Local intranet Medium-low
> > | Trusted sites Low
> > | Internet Medium
> > | Restricted sites High
> > |
> > | I've tried setting Local intranet to Low but the error remained.
>
> > Those settings were good, then. And I see you have solved the problem &
> > possibly could stop now. Probably, some 3rd-party software renamed your
> > Scrrun.dll as a security measure to prevent scripts from running, & you
> > will be fine now that you renamed it back.
>
> > | I've been able to successfully run Gary's .vbs script on my other
> > | Win98SE box. Now I'm trying to find what is different about them.
> > |
> > | According to msinfo32.exe, the two boxes are both using IE6SP1 with
> > | the same build version and same updates.
>
> > I'm not seeing that you have taken all the updates, at "IE, Help,
> > About"...!...
>
> > Yours... ;SP1;q240308;q313829;Q330994;Q828750
> > Mine....
> > SP1, Q313829, Q328970, Q328389, Q324929, Q810847, Q813951, Q816506,
> > Q813489, Q330994, Q818529, Q822925, Q828750, Q824145, Q832894,
> > Q837009, Q831167, Q823353, Q867801, Q833989, Q834707, Q889293,
> > Q867282, Q891781, Q890923, Q883939, Q896688, Q905915, Q912812,
> > Q916281 & Q918439.
>
> > Although mine is misleading (because the registry key the data comes
> > from is not cleared of superceded updates, but the later ones are just
> > added)... you need to go to Windows Update & get at least Q916281 &
> > Q918439...
>
> >http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-021.mspx
> > Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-021
> > Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer (916281)
>
> >http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-022.mspx
> > Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-022
> > Vulnerability in ART Image Rendering Could Allow Remote Code Execution
> > (918439)
>
> > REMEMBER... To see the Win98 updates at Windows Update, you must go
> > there from a Win98 machine. And that MSVCRT.dll you reported earlier
> > looks suspiciously XP/Vista-irradiated to me...!...
>
> > You Me
> > MSVCRT.dll 6.10.8924.0 6.00.8797.0
>
> > Also, your script files...
>
> > jscript.dll 5.6.0.8513
> > vbscript.dll 5.6.0.8515
>
> > ...are STILL lower than my versions. Jugding from this SFCLog.txt of
> > mine, you need at least one more update...
>
> > [C:\WINDOWS]
> > wscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> > [c:\windows\COMMAND]
> > cscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> > [C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM]
> > jscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> > scrobj.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> > vbscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> > wshext.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> > scrrun.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> > wshom.ocx Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
>
> > I'm not sure Windows Update will get that done for you. If not, I'll try
> > harder to recall what it was that I ran (back in '06 says the date in
> > SFCLog.txt) that got me updated to that.
>
> > Well... wait a minute... I am seeing those files with those dates in my
> > version of that file you mentioned... Scr56en.exe. Its Properties says
> > my version is 5.50.4134.600. (Not sure where I got it from.)
>
> Hi,PCR. Check again and you will notice that the version you quote is
> for Wextract.exe which is the package itself and NOT the update files
> it contains. Your vbs version of 5.6.0.8825 is the latest MS offered
> from this now dead
URL:http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/downloads/list/web...
>
> Begining with Gary's Scr56en.exe of 6626 version, MS would silently
> update the version available from the above website such that one
> always got the latest version. I have archived versions
> 6626
> 8515
> 8825
>
> The only one I think I might be missing was 8513. You could only have
> gotten your version 8825 from that source as it was never available
> from the WinUP site for reasons I can't fathom at all. Update 917344
> does update just Jscript.dll to 8831 version, and once again NONE of
> these updates will retrograde any version of files backwards. Files
> are only replaced if the incoming files are the same or higher
> version. So when Franc re-applys his 6626 version update all his
> script files should be getting refreshed provided they ARE the same
> version.
>
> I'll be emailing Gary (from lee_454 AT Yahoo) the latest version for
> all to enjoy the latest scripting host package - it is NOT available
> anywhere else that I know of, so thanks a lot Gary, we need it hosted
> somewhere. To view the version of files inside, open it with WinZip
> and double click on the inf file to read, close to the bottom of it,
> the version number. WinZip extracts just the inf file as a temporary
> file in your TEMP folder and launches your default text file reader to
> view it with, in such double click situations. To ensure trust, do
> check the Digital Signature to see that it is a valid MS file that has
> not been tampered with.
>
> I once had a problem with script errors and found it was Norton's
> scripting guard causing it because when I removed Norton my vbs spell
> checker started working again with out the errors. Perhaps Franc has
> Norton? The "Can't create ActiveX Object" error report is a common
> one and more of a generic output than something specifically wrong
> with the script itself although the script CAN be wrong and generate
> the valid error - when the same script works for several other people
> it is NOT an ActiveX error after all. Something else is going on with
> Franc's machine. Getting him the latest Scripting Host package would
> be number one on my list of things to do.
>
>
>
>
>
> > | The above security settings
> > | are also identical.
> > |
> > | These are the IE data for the good box:
> > |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/xp2500IE.txt
> > |
> > | These are the IE data for the bad box:
> > |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/xp2500IE.txt
> > |
> > | This is the difference between the two data sets:
> > |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/diff_ie.txt
> > |
> > | I can find only one real difference and that is that the good box has
> > | a later version of vbscript.dll. However using this version on the bad
> > | box doesn't make the error go away.
> > |
> > | The good box also has Opera installed on it, although it is a much
> > | earlier version.
> > |
> > | The same versions of wscript.exe are installed on both boxes.
> > |
> > | This a Filemon record up until the error box appears:
> > |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/vbs_filemon.txt
> > |
> > | The Filemon output screen isn't mousable, but holding down the
> > | Ctrl-Shift key plus Home/End/PgUp/PgDown and then selecting Edit >
> > | Copy enables one to copy and paste the output into Notepad. Thanks to
> > | MEB.
> > |
> > | As for TweakUI's IE settings, all but the following boxes are checked:
> > |
> > | Clear document, run, typed-URL history on exit
> > | Show Favorites on Start Menu
> > |
> > | If I use Opera to open a .vbs file, it merely displays its contents.
> > | Under Tools > Preferences > Advanced > Downloads there is no VBS file
> > | type.
> > |
> > | ===============================================================
> > |
> > | While writing the above and trying things as I went, I finally got the
> > | script to work. Unfortunately I lost track of what I did. :-(
> > |
> > | However, if I now rename scrrun.dll in the Windows\System directory to
> > | scrrun.dl_, then the VB script breaks as before. Renaming other files
> > | in the scr56en.exe package either has no effect, or produces other
> > | errors. I notice that scrrun.dll appears in MEB's Filemon output
> > | screen (thank you MEB) soon after mine errors out. Maybe that was the
> > | problem all along.
> > |
> > | The following URL may offer an explanation for what happened:
> > |http://www.auditmypc.com/process/scrrun.asp
> > |
> > | "The file, scrrun.dll, is used by windows when running scripts such as
> > | those written with JScript or VBScript. If scrrun.dll is unavailable,
> > | windows will not be able to execute scripts. If you do not use any
> > | scripting on your computer you may be able to remove this file."
> > |
> > | Anyway I suspect that something broke my IE6 or WSH installation. I
> > | hate installing updates and patches because this sort of thing seems
> > | to happen to me a lot.
> > |
> > | Thanks to all for your help.
> > |
> > | - Franc Zabkar
> > | --
> > | Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
>
> > --
> > Thanks or Good Luck,
> > There may be humor in this post, and,
> > Naturally, you will not sue,
> > Should things get worse after this,
> > PCR
> > pcr...@netzero.net- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Gary S. Terhune · May 2, 2008

Re: Bootup - Shutdown logger

They were provided via separate download associated with TechNet or MSDN, I
forget which. Your version is the highest version distributed via Windows 9x
installers, WU(9x) and packages like IE6SP1. Since WSH was never considered
a Critical Update, and later versions, while backwards compatible
(apparently) were never added to the 9x update stream.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eG4cl3CrIHA.2520@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Interesting.
>
> I have:
> 5.6.0.6626 wscript.exe
> 5.6.0.6626 cscript.exe
>
> And those were provided by Windows Update in this last clean install...
>
> So where did the updated files come from....
>
> --
> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> --
> _________
>
> "Lee" <melee5@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:f6690c5f-3fe5-4b3f-8ee6-27a6257c2837@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> Thanks Gary, I can report not a single problem with version 8825
> Scripting Host on my machine.
>
> MEB - MDGx.com already has an unofficial 5.6 and 5.7 9x scripting host
> packages, I was holding out for the official version for the very
> reasons you mention.
>
> PCR - Wextract is the engine of the update executable package itself,
> it's version numbers vary a lot so it's not much use by itself. But
> the digital signature of it both shows you the Signatory of the
> package and that it has not been tampered with since by the word and
> standing of the Signatory which in this case is MS - which is good
> enough for me to trust it.
>
> On May 1, 7:48 am, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
>> I have discovered that I also have version 8825 of SCR56EN. I'll put that
> on
>> my site instead of v. 6626. Have you guys decided if there are any
> problems
>> with 8825?
>>
>> --
>> Gary S. Terhune
>> MS-MVP Shell/Userwww.grystmill.com
>>
>> "Lee" <mel...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:234891b6-c92a-42dc-810e-18295566059a@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Apr 23, 7:15 pm, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Franc Zabkar wrote:
>>
>> > | On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:42:49 -0400, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> put
>> > | finger to keyboard and composed:
>> > |
>> > |>Another thing: what about your settings at...?...
>> > |>
>> > |>"Control Panel, Internet Options, Security tab, Select Internet (&
>> > |>maybe Local Intranet)"
>> > |>
>> > |>Are you at Default or Custom? If Custom, are the 3 Scripting options
>> > |>enabled? Mine are, (but not all the ActiveX options are enabled).
>> > |
>> > | I'll try to answer everyone's questions here.
>> > |
>> > | These are my security settings:
>> > |
>> > | Local intranet Medium-low
>> > | Trusted sites Low
>> > | Internet Medium
>> > | Restricted sites High
>> > |
>> > | I've tried setting Local intranet to Low but the error remained.
>>
>> > Those settings were good, then. And I see you have solved the problem &
>> > possibly could stop now. Probably, some 3rd-party software renamed your
>> > Scrrun.dll as a security measure to prevent scripts from running, & you
>> > will be fine now that you renamed it back.
>>
>> > | I've been able to successfully run Gary's .vbs script on my other
>> > | Win98SE box. Now I'm trying to find what is different about them.
>> > |
>> > | According to msinfo32.exe, the two boxes are both using IE6SP1 with
>> > | the same build version and same updates.
>>
>> > I'm not seeing that you have taken all the updates, at "IE, Help,
>> > About"...!...
>>
>> > Yours... ;SP1;q240308;q313829;Q330994;Q828750
>> > Mine....
>> > SP1, Q313829, Q328970, Q328389, Q324929, Q810847, Q813951, Q816506,
>> > Q813489, Q330994, Q818529, Q822925, Q828750, Q824145, Q832894,
>> > Q837009, Q831167, Q823353, Q867801, Q833989, Q834707, Q889293,
>> > Q867282, Q891781, Q890923, Q883939, Q896688, Q905915, Q912812,
>> > Q916281 & Q918439.
>>
>> > Although mine is misleading (because the registry key the data comes
>> > from is not cleared of superceded updates, but the later ones are just
>> > added)... you need to go to Windows Update & get at least Q916281 &
>> > Q918439...
>>
>> >http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-021.mspx
>> > Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-021
>> > Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer (916281)
>>
>> >http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-022.mspx
>> > Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-022
>> > Vulnerability in ART Image Rendering Could Allow Remote Code Execution
>> > (918439)
>>
>> > REMEMBER... To see the Win98 updates at Windows Update, you must go
>> > there from a Win98 machine. And that MSVCRT.dll you reported earlier
>> > looks suspiciously XP/Vista-irradiated to me...!...
>>
>> > You Me
>> > MSVCRT.dll 6.10.8924.0 6.00.8797.0
>>
>> > Also, your script files...
>>
>> > jscript.dll 5.6.0.8513
>> > vbscript.dll 5.6.0.8515
>>
>> > ...are STILL lower than my versions. Jugding from this SFCLog.txt of
>> > mine, you need at least one more update...
>>
>> > [C:\WINDOWS]
>> > wscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
>> > [c:\windows\COMMAND]
>> > cscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
>> > [C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM]
>> > jscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
>> > scrobj.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
>> > vbscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
>> > wshext.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
>> > scrrun.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
>> > wshom.ocx Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
>>
>> > I'm not sure Windows Update will get that done for you. If not, I'll
>> > try
>> > harder to recall what it was that I ran (back in '06 says the date in
>> > SFCLog.txt) that got me updated to that.
>>
>> > Well... wait a minute... I am seeing those files with those dates in my
>> > version of that file you mentioned... Scr56en.exe. Its Properties says
>> > my version is 5.50.4134.600. (Not sure where I got it from.)
>>
>> Hi,PCR. Check again and you will notice that the version you quote is
>> for Wextract.exe which is the package itself and NOT the update files
>> it contains. Your vbs version of 5.6.0.8825 is the latest MS offered
>> from this now dead
> URL:http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/downloads/list/web...
>>
>> Begining with Gary's Scr56en.exe of 6626 version, MS would silently
>> update the version available from the above website such that one
>> always got the latest version. I have archived versions
>> 6626
>> 8515
>> 8825
>>
>> The only one I think I might be missing was 8513. You could only have
>> gotten your version 8825 from that source as it was never available
>> from the WinUP site for reasons I can't fathom at all. Update 917344
>> does update just Jscript.dll to 8831 version, and once again NONE of
>> these updates will retrograde any version of files backwards. Files
>> are only replaced if the incoming files are the same or higher
>> version. So when Franc re-applys his 6626 version update all his
>> script files should be getting refreshed provided they ARE the same
>> version.
>>
>> I'll be emailing Gary (from lee_454 AT Yahoo) the latest version for
>> all to enjoy the latest scripting host package - it is NOT available
>> anywhere else that I know of, so thanks a lot Gary, we need it hosted
>> somewhere. To view the version of files inside, open it with WinZip
>> and double click on the inf file to read, close to the bottom of it,
>> the version number. WinZip extracts just the inf file as a temporary
>> file in your TEMP folder and launches your default text file reader to
>> view it with, in such double click situations. To ensure trust, do
>> check the Digital Signature to see that it is a valid MS file that has
>> not been tampered with.
>>
>> I once had a problem with script errors and found it was Norton's
>> scripting guard causing it because when I removed Norton my vbs spell
>> checker started working again with out the errors. Perhaps Franc has
>> Norton? The "Can't create ActiveX Object" error report is a common
>> one and more of a generic output than something specifically wrong
>> with the script itself although the script CAN be wrong and generate
>> the valid error - when the same script works for several other people
>> it is NOT an ActiveX error after all. Something else is going on with
>> Franc's machine. Getting him the latest Scripting Host package would
>> be number one on my list of things to do.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > | The above security settings
>> > | are also identical.
>> > |
>> > | These are the IE data for the good box:
>> > |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/xp2500IE.txt
>> > |
>> > | These are the IE data for the bad box:
>> > |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/xp2500IE.txt
>> > |
>> > | This is the difference between the two data sets:
>> > |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/diff_ie.txt
>> > |
>> > | I can find only one real difference and that is that the good box has
>> > | a later version of vbscript.dll. However using this version on the
>> > bad
>> > | box doesn't make the error go away.
>> > |
>> > | The good box also has Opera installed on it, although it is a much
>> > | earlier version.
>> > |
>> > | The same versions of wscript.exe are installed on both boxes.
>> > |
>> > | This a Filemon record up until the error box appears:
>> > |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/vbs_filemon.txt
>> > |
>> > | The Filemon output screen isn't mousable, but holding down the
>> > | Ctrl-Shift key plus Home/End/PgUp/PgDown and then selecting Edit >
>> > | Copy enables one to copy and paste the output into Notepad. Thanks to
>> > | MEB.
>> > |
>> > | As for TweakUI's IE settings, all but the following boxes are
>> > checked:
>> > |
>> > | Clear document, run, typed-URL history on exit
>> > | Show Favorites on Start Menu
>> > |
>> > | If I use Opera to open a .vbs file, it merely displays its contents.
>> > | Under Tools > Preferences > Advanced > Downloads there is no VBS file
>> > | type.
>> > |
>> > | ===============================================================
>> > |
>> > | While writing the above and trying things as I went, I finally got
>> > the
>> > | script to work. Unfortunately I lost track of what I did. :-(
>> > |
>> > | However, if I now rename scrrun.dll in the Windows\System directory
>> > to
>> > | scrrun.dl_, then the VB script breaks as before. Renaming other files
>> > | in the scr56en.exe package either has no effect, or produces other
>> > | errors. I notice that scrrun.dll appears in MEB's Filemon output
>> > | screen (thank you MEB) soon after mine errors out. Maybe that was the
>> > | problem all along.
>> > |
>> > | The following URL may offer an explanation for what happened:
>> > |http://www.auditmypc.com/process/scrrun.asp
>> > |
>> > | "The file, scrrun.dll, is used by windows when running scripts such
>> > as
>> > | those written with JScript or VBScript. If scrrun.dll is unavailable,
>> > | windows will not be able to execute scripts. If you do not use any
>> > | scripting on your computer you may be able to remove this file."
>> > |
>> > | Anyway I suspect that something broke my IE6 or WSH installation. I
>> > | hate installing updates and patches because this sort of thing seems
>> > | to happen to me a lot.
>> > |
>> > | Thanks to all for your help.
>> > |
>> > | - Franc Zabkar
>> > | --
>> > | Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
>>
>> > --
>> > Thanks or Good Luck,
>> > There may be humor in this post, and,
>> > Naturally, you will not sue,
>> > Should things get worse after this,
>> > PCR
>> > pcr...@netzero.net- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>

MEB · May 2, 2008

Re: Bootup - Shutdown logger

Got it, literally. Have that version here as well as dozens of other
not-offered-by WU files, though offered by Microsoft elsewhere. Just one of
those annoying reference points/re-directions. I even made a point to note
this on the web page for updating WIN9X. Don't take offense, just an FYI for
those that might be following this thread, or find it during a search..

--
MEB
--
_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:uaL8xyGrIHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| They were provided via separate download associated with TechNet or MSDN,
I
| forget which. Your version is the highest version distributed via Windows
9x
| installers, WU(9x) and packages like IE6SP1. Since WSH was never
considered
| a Critical Update, and later versions, while backwards compatible
| (apparently) were never added to the 9x update stream.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:eG4cl3CrIHA.2520@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > Interesting.
| >
| > I have:
| > 5.6.0.6626 wscript.exe
| > 5.6.0.6626 cscript.exe
| >
| > And those were provided by Windows Update in this last clean install...
| >
| > So where did the updated files come from....
| >
| > --
| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > --
| > _________
| >
| > "Lee" <melee5@my-deja.com> wrote in message
| >
news:f6690c5f-3fe5-4b3f-8ee6-27a6257c2837@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
| > Thanks Gary, I can report not a single problem with version 8825
| > Scripting Host on my machine.
| >
| > MEB - MDGx.com already has an unofficial 5.6 and 5.7 9x scripting host
| > packages, I was holding out for the official version for the very
| > reasons you mention.
| >
| > PCR - Wextract is the engine of the update executable package itself,
| > it's version numbers vary a lot so it's not much use by itself. But
| > the digital signature of it both shows you the Signatory of the
| > package and that it has not been tampered with since by the word and
| > standing of the Signatory which in this case is MS - which is good
| > enough for me to trust it.
| >
| > On May 1, 7:48 am, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
| >> I have discovered that I also have version 8825 of SCR56EN. I'll put
that
| > on
| >> my site instead of v. 6626. Have you guys decided if there are any
| > problems
| >> with 8825?
| >>
| >> --
| >> Gary S. Terhune
| >> MS-MVP Shell/Userwww.grystmill.com
| >>
| >> "Lee" <mel...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
| >>
| >>
news:234891b6-c92a-42dc-810e-18295566059a@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
| >> On Apr 23, 7:15 pm, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote:
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >> > Franc Zabkar wrote:
| >>
| >> > | On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:42:49 -0400, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> put
| >> > | finger to keyboard and composed:
| >> > |
| >> > |>Another thing: what about your settings at...?...
| >> > |>
| >> > |>"Control Panel, Internet Options, Security tab, Select Internet (&
| >> > |>maybe Local Intranet)"
| >> > |>
| >> > |>Are you at Default or Custom? If Custom, are the 3 Scripting
options
| >> > |>enabled? Mine are, (but not all the ActiveX options are enabled).
| >> > |
| >> > | I'll try to answer everyone's questions here.
| >> > |
| >> > | These are my security settings:
| >> > |
| >> > | Local intranet Medium-low
| >> > | Trusted sites Low
| >> > | Internet Medium
| >> > | Restricted sites High
| >> > |
| >> > | I've tried setting Local intranet to Low but the error remained.
| >>
| >> > Those settings were good, then. And I see you have solved the problem
&
| >> > possibly could stop now. Probably, some 3rd-party software renamed
your
| >> > Scrrun.dll as a security measure to prevent scripts from running, &
you
| >> > will be fine now that you renamed it back.
| >>
| >> > | I've been able to successfully run Gary's .vbs script on my other
| >> > | Win98SE box. Now I'm trying to find what is different about them.
| >> > |
| >> > | According to msinfo32.exe, the two boxes are both using IE6SP1 with
| >> > | the same build version and same updates.
| >>
| >> > I'm not seeing that you have taken all the updates, at "IE, Help,
| >> > About"...!...
| >>
| >> > Yours... ;SP1;q240308;q313829;Q330994;Q828750
| >> > Mine....
| >> > SP1, Q313829, Q328970, Q328389, Q324929, Q810847, Q813951, Q816506,
| >> > Q813489, Q330994, Q818529, Q822925, Q828750, Q824145, Q832894,
| >> > Q837009, Q831167, Q823353, Q867801, Q833989, Q834707, Q889293,
| >> > Q867282, Q891781, Q890923, Q883939, Q896688, Q905915, Q912812,
| >> > Q916281 & Q918439.
| >>
| >> > Although mine is misleading (because the registry key the data comes
| >> > from is not cleared of superceded updates, but the later ones are
just
| >> > added)... you need to go to Windows Update & get at least Q916281 &
| >> > Q918439...
| >>
| >> >http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-021.mspx
| >> > Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-021
| >> > Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer (916281)
| >>
| >> >http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-022.mspx
| >> > Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-022
| >> > Vulnerability in ART Image Rendering Could Allow Remote Code
Execution
| >> > (918439)
| >>
| >> > REMEMBER... To see the Win98 updates at Windows Update, you must go
| >> > there from a Win98 machine. And that MSVCRT.dll you reported earlier
| >> > looks suspiciously XP/Vista-irradiated to me...!...
| >>
| >> > You Me
| >> > MSVCRT.dll 6.10.8924.0 6.00.8797.0
| >>
| >> > Also, your script files...
| >>
| >> > jscript.dll 5.6.0.8513
| >> > vbscript.dll 5.6.0.8515
| >>
| >> > ...are STILL lower than my versions. Jugding from this SFCLog.txt of
| >> > mine, you need at least one more update...
| >>
| >> > [C:\WINDOWS]
| >> > wscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
| >> > [c:\windows\COMMAND]
| >> > cscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
| >> > [C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM]
| >> > jscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
| >> > scrobj.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
| >> > vbscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
| >> > wshext.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
| >> > scrrun.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
| >> > wshom.ocx Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
| >>
| >> > I'm not sure Windows Update will get that done for you. If not, I'll
| >> > try
| >> > harder to recall what it was that I ran (back in '06 says the date in
| >> > SFCLog.txt) that got me updated to that.
| >>
| >> > Well... wait a minute... I am seeing those files with those dates in
my
| >> > version of that file you mentioned... Scr56en.exe. Its Properties
says
| >> > my version is 5.50.4134.600. (Not sure where I got it from.)
| >>
| >> Hi,PCR. Check again and you will notice that the version you quote is
| >> for Wextract.exe which is the package itself and NOT the update files
| >> it contains. Your vbs version of 5.6.0.8825 is the latest MS offered
| >> from this now dead
| >
URL:http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/downloads/list/web...
| >>
| >> Begining with Gary's Scr56en.exe of 6626 version, MS would silently
| >> update the version available from the above website such that one
| >> always got the latest version. I have archived versions
| >> 6626
| >> 8515
| >> 8825
| >>
| >> The only one I think I might be missing was 8513. You could only have
| >> gotten your version 8825 from that source as it was never available
| >> from the WinUP site for reasons I can't fathom at all. Update 917344
| >> does update just Jscript.dll to 8831 version, and once again NONE of
| >> these updates will retrograde any version of files backwards. Files
| >> are only replaced if the incoming files are the same or higher
| >> version. So when Franc re-applys his 6626 version update all his
| >> script files should be getting refreshed provided they ARE the same
| >> version.
| >>
| >> I'll be emailing Gary (from lee_454 AT Yahoo) the latest version for
| >> all to enjoy the latest scripting host package - it is NOT available
| >> anywhere else that I know of, so thanks a lot Gary, we need it hosted
| >> somewhere. To view the version of files inside, open it with WinZip
| >> and double click on the inf file to read, close to the bottom of it,
| >> the version number. WinZip extracts just the inf file as a temporary
| >> file in your TEMP folder and launches your default text file reader to
| >> view it with, in such double click situations. To ensure trust, do
| >> check the Digital Signature to see that it is a valid MS file that has
| >> not been tampered with.
| >>
| >> I once had a problem with script errors and found it was Norton's
| >> scripting guard causing it because when I removed Norton my vbs spell
| >> checker started working again with out the errors. Perhaps Franc has
| >> Norton? The "Can't create ActiveX Object" error report is a common
| >> one and more of a generic output than something specifically wrong
| >> with the script itself although the script CAN be wrong and generate
| >> the valid error - when the same script works for several other people
| >> it is NOT an ActiveX error after all. Something else is going on with
| >> Franc's machine. Getting him the latest Scripting Host package would
| >> be number one on my list of things to do.
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >> > | The above security settings
| >> > | are also identical.
| >> > |
| >> > | These are the IE data for the good box:
| >> > |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/xp2500IE.txt
| >> > |
| >> > | These are the IE data for the bad box:
| >> > |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/xp2500IE.txt
| >> > |
| >> > | This is the difference between the two data sets:
| >> > |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/diff_ie.txt
| >> > |
| >> > | I can find only one real difference and that is that the good box
has
| >> > | a later version of vbscript.dll. However using this version on the
| >> > bad
| >> > | box doesn't make the error go away.
| >> > |
| >> > | The good box also has Opera installed on it, although it is a much
| >> > | earlier version.
| >> > |
| >> > | The same versions of wscript.exe are installed on both boxes.
| >> > |
| >> > | This a Filemon record up until the error box appears:
| >> > |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/vbs_filemon.txt
| >> > |
| >> > | The Filemon output screen isn't mousable, but holding down the
| >> > | Ctrl-Shift key plus Home/End/PgUp/PgDown and then selecting Edit >
| >> > | Copy enables one to copy and paste the output into Notepad. Thanks
to
| >> > | MEB.
| >> > |
| >> > | As for TweakUI's IE settings, all but the following boxes are
| >> > checked:
| >> > |
| >> > | Clear document, run, typed-URL history on exit
| >> > | Show Favorites on Start Menu
| >> > |
| >> > | If I use Opera to open a .vbs file, it merely displays its
contents.
| >> > | Under Tools > Preferences > Advanced > Downloads there is no VBS
file
| >> > | type.
| >> > |
| >> > | ===============================================================
| >> > |
| >> > | While writing the above and trying things as I went, I finally got
| >> > the
| >> > | script to work. Unfortunately I lost track of what I did. :-(
| >> > |
| >> > | However, if I now rename scrrun.dll in the Windows\System directory
| >> > to
| >> > | scrrun.dl_, then the VB script breaks as before. Renaming other
files
| >> > | in the scr56en.exe package either has no effect, or produces other
| >> > | errors. I notice that scrrun.dll appears in MEB's Filemon output
| >> > | screen (thank you MEB) soon after mine errors out. Maybe that was
the
| >> > | problem all along.
| >> > |
| >> > | The following URL may offer an explanation for what happened:
| >> > |http://www.auditmypc.com/process/scrrun.asp
| >> > |
| >> > | "The file, scrrun.dll, is used by windows when running scripts such
| >> > as
| >> > | those written with JScript or VBScript. If scrrun.dll is
unavailable,
| >> > | windows will not be able to execute scripts. If you do not use any
| >> > | scripting on your computer you may be able to remove this file."
| >> > |
| >> > | Anyway I suspect that something broke my IE6 or WSH installation. I
| >> > | hate installing updates and patches because this sort of thing
seems
| >> > | to happen to me a lot.
| >> > |
| >> > | Thanks to all for your help.
| >> > |
| >> > | - Franc Zabkar
| >> > | --
| >> > | Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
| >>
| >> > --
| >> > Thanks or Good Luck,
| >> > There may be humor in this post, and,
| >> > Naturally, you will not sue,
| >> > Should things get worse after this,
| >> > PCR
| >> > pcr...@netzero.net- Hide quoted text -
| >>
| >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
| >>
| >> - Show quoted text -
| >
| >
|

Gary S. Terhune · May 2, 2008

Re: Bootup - Shutdown logger

Talk about losing data, relatively recent changes at Microsoft.com have
apparently removed a TON of downloads from availability.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e87ohEIrIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Got it, literally. Have that version here as well as dozens of other
> not-offered-by WU files, though offered by Microsoft elsewhere. Just one
> of
> those annoying reference points/re-directions. I even made a point to note
> this on the web page for updating WIN9X. Don't take offense, just an FYI
> for
> those that might be following this thread, or find it during a search..
>
> --
> MEB
> --
> _________
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
> news:uaL8xyGrIHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> | They were provided via separate download associated with TechNet or
> MSDN,
> I
> | forget which. Your version is the highest version distributed via
> Windows
> 9x
> | installers, WU(9x) and packages like IE6SP1. Since WSH was never
> considered
> | a Critical Update, and later versions, while backwards compatible
> | (apparently) were never added to the 9x update stream.
> |
> | --
> | Gary S. Terhune
> | MS-MVP Shell/User
> | www.grystmill.com
> |
> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:eG4cl3CrIHA.2520@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | > Interesting.
> | >
> | > I have:
> | > 5.6.0.6626 wscript.exe
> | > 5.6.0.6626 cscript.exe
> | >
> | > And those were provided by Windows Update in this last clean
> install...
> | >
> | > So where did the updated files come from....
> | >
> | > --
> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
> | > --
> | > _________
> | >
> | > "Lee" <melee5@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> | >
> news:f6690c5f-3fe5-4b3f-8ee6-27a6257c2837@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> | > Thanks Gary, I can report not a single problem with version 8825
> | > Scripting Host on my machine.
> | >
> | > MEB - MDGx.com already has an unofficial 5.6 and 5.7 9x scripting host
> | > packages, I was holding out for the official version for the very
> | > reasons you mention.
> | >
> | > PCR - Wextract is the engine of the update executable package itself,
> | > it's version numbers vary a lot so it's not much use by itself. But
> | > the digital signature of it both shows you the Signatory of the
> | > package and that it has not been tampered with since by the word and
> | > standing of the Signatory which in this case is MS - which is good
> | > enough for me to trust it.
> | >
> | > On May 1, 7:48 am, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
> | >> I have discovered that I also have version 8825 of SCR56EN. I'll put
> that
> | > on
> | >> my site instead of v. 6626. Have you guys decided if there are any
> | > problems
> | >> with 8825?
> | >>
> | >> --
> | >> Gary S. Terhune
> | >> MS-MVP Shell/Userwww.grystmill.com
> | >>
> | >> "Lee" <mel...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> | >>
> | >>
> news:234891b6-c92a-42dc-810e-18295566059a@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> | >> On Apr 23, 7:15 pm, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote:
> | >>
> | >>
> | >>
> | >>
> | >>
> | >> > Franc Zabkar wrote:
> | >>
> | >> > | On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:42:49 -0400, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net>
> put
> | >> > | finger to keyboard and composed:
> | >> > |
> | >> > |>Another thing: what about your settings at...?...
> | >> > |>
> | >> > |>"Control Panel, Internet Options, Security tab, Select Internet
> (&
> | >> > |>maybe Local Intranet)"
> | >> > |>
> | >> > |>Are you at Default or Custom? If Custom, are the 3 Scripting
> options
> | >> > |>enabled? Mine are, (but not all the ActiveX options are enabled).
> | >> > |
> | >> > | I'll try to answer everyone's questions here.
> | >> > |
> | >> > | These are my security settings:
> | >> > |
> | >> > | Local intranet Medium-low
> | >> > | Trusted sites Low
> | >> > | Internet Medium
> | >> > | Restricted sites High
> | >> > |
> | >> > | I've tried setting Local intranet to Low but the error remained.
> | >>
> | >> > Those settings were good, then. And I see you have solved the
> problem
> &
> | >> > possibly could stop now. Probably, some 3rd-party software renamed
> your
> | >> > Scrrun.dll as a security measure to prevent scripts from running, &
> you
> | >> > will be fine now that you renamed it back.
> | >>
> | >> > | I've been able to successfully run Gary's .vbs script on my other
> | >> > | Win98SE box. Now I'm trying to find what is different about them.
> | >> > |
> | >> > | According to msinfo32.exe, the two boxes are both using IE6SP1
> with
> | >> > | the same build version and same updates.
> | >>
> | >> > I'm not seeing that you have taken all the updates, at "IE, Help,
> | >> > About"...!...
> | >>
> | >> > Yours... ;SP1;q240308;q313829;Q330994;Q828750
> | >> > Mine....
> | >> > SP1, Q313829, Q328970, Q328389, Q324929, Q810847, Q813951, Q816506,
> | >> > Q813489, Q330994, Q818529, Q822925, Q828750, Q824145, Q832894,
> | >> > Q837009, Q831167, Q823353, Q867801, Q833989, Q834707, Q889293,
> | >> > Q867282, Q891781, Q890923, Q883939, Q896688, Q905915, Q912812,
> | >> > Q916281 & Q918439.
> | >>
> | >> > Although mine is misleading (because the registry key the data
> comes
> | >> > from is not cleared of superceded updates, but the later ones are
> just
> | >> > added)... you need to go to Windows Update & get at least Q916281 &
> | >> > Q918439...
> | >>
> | >> >http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-021.mspx
> | >> > Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-021
> | >> > Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer (916281)
> | >>
> | >> >http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-022.mspx
> | >> > Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-022
> | >> > Vulnerability in ART Image Rendering Could Allow Remote Code
> Execution
> | >> > (918439)
> | >>
> | >> > REMEMBER... To see the Win98 updates at Windows Update, you must go
> | >> > there from a Win98 machine. And that MSVCRT.dll you reported
> earlier
> | >> > looks suspiciously XP/Vista-irradiated to me...!...
> | >>
> | >> > You Me
> | >> > MSVCRT.dll 6.10.8924.0 6.00.8797.0
> | >>
> | >> > Also, your script files...
> | >>
> | >> > jscript.dll 5.6.0.8513
> | >> > vbscript.dll 5.6.0.8515
> | >>
> | >> > ...are STILL lower than my versions. Jugding from this SFCLog.txt
> of
> | >> > mine, you need at least one more update...
> | >>
> | >> > [C:\WINDOWS]
> | >> > wscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> | >> > [c:\windows\COMMAND]
> | >> > cscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> | >> > [C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM]
> | >> > jscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> | >> > scrobj.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> | >> > vbscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> | >> > wshext.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> | >> > scrrun.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> | >> > wshom.ocx Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
> | >>
> | >> > I'm not sure Windows Update will get that done for you. If not,
> I'll
> | >> > try
> | >> > harder to recall what it was that I ran (back in '06 says the date
> in
> | >> > SFCLog.txt) that got me updated to that.
> | >>
> | >> > Well... wait a minute... I am seeing those files with those dates
> in
> my
> | >> > version of that file you mentioned... Scr56en.exe. Its Properties
> says
> | >> > my version is 5.50.4134.600. (Not sure where I got it from.)
> | >>
> | >> Hi,PCR. Check again and you will notice that the version you quote is
> | >> for Wextract.exe which is the package itself and NOT the update files
> | >> it contains. Your vbs version of 5.6.0.8825 is the latest MS offered
> | >> from this now dead
> | >
> URL:http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/downloads/list/web...
> | >>
> | >> Begining with Gary's Scr56en.exe of 6626 version, MS would silently
> | >> update the version available from the above website such that one
> | >> always got the latest version. I have archived versions
> | >> 6626
> | >> 8515
> | >> 8825
> | >>
> | >> The only one I think I might be missing was 8513. You could only have
> | >> gotten your version 8825 from that source as it was never available
> | >> from the WinUP site for reasons I can't fathom at all. Update 917344
> | >> does update just Jscript.dll to 8831 version, and once again NONE of
> | >> these updates will retrograde any version of files backwards. Files
> | >> are only replaced if the incoming files are the same or higher
> | >> version. So when Franc re-applys his 6626 version update all his
> | >> script files should be getting refreshed provided they ARE the same
> | >> version.
> | >>
> | >> I'll be emailing Gary (from lee_454 AT Yahoo) the latest version for
> | >> all to enjoy the latest scripting host package - it is NOT available
> | >> anywhere else that I know of, so thanks a lot Gary, we need it hosted
> | >> somewhere. To view the version of files inside, open it with WinZip
> | >> and double click on the inf file to read, close to the bottom of it,
> | >> the version number. WinZip extracts just the inf file as a temporary
> | >> file in your TEMP folder and launches your default text file reader
> to
> | >> view it with, in such double click situations. To ensure trust, do
> | >> check the Digital Signature to see that it is a valid MS file that
> has
> | >> not been tampered with.
> | >>
> | >> I once had a problem with script errors and found it was Norton's
> | >> scripting guard causing it because when I removed Norton my vbs spell
> | >> checker started working again with out the errors. Perhaps Franc has
> | >> Norton? The "Can't create ActiveX Object" error report is a common
> | >> one and more of a generic output than something specifically wrong
> | >> with the script itself although the script CAN be wrong and generate
> | >> the valid error - when the same script works for several other people
> | >> it is NOT an ActiveX error after all. Something else is going on with
> | >> Franc's machine. Getting him the latest Scripting Host package would
> | >> be number one on my list of things to do.
> | >>
> | >>
> | >>
> | >>
> | >>
> | >> > | The above security settings
> | >> > | are also identical.
> | >> > |
> | >> > | These are the IE data for the good box:
> | >> > |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/xp2500IE.txt
> | >> > |
> | >> > | These are the IE data for the bad box:
> | >> > |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/xp2500IE.txt
> | >> > |
> | >> > | This is the difference between the two data sets:
> | >> > |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/diff_ie.txt
> | >> > |
> | >> > | I can find only one real difference and that is that the good box
> has
> | >> > | a later version of vbscript.dll. However using this version on
> the
> | >> > bad
> | >> > | box doesn't make the error go away.
> | >> > |
> | >> > | The good box also has Opera installed on it, although it is a
> much
> | >> > | earlier version.
> | >> > |
> | >> > | The same versions of wscript.exe are installed on both boxes.
> | >> > |
> | >> > | This a Filemon record up until the error box appears:
> | >> > |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/vbs_filemon.txt
> | >> > |
> | >> > | The Filemon output screen isn't mousable, but holding down the
> | >> > | Ctrl-Shift key plus Home/End/PgUp/PgDown and then selecting Edit
> >
> | >> > | Copy enables one to copy and paste the output into Notepad.
> Thanks
> to
> | >> > | MEB.
> | >> > |
> | >> > | As for TweakUI's IE settings, all but the following boxes are
> | >> > checked:
> | >> > |
> | >> > | Clear document, run, typed-URL history on exit
> | >> > | Show Favorites on Start Menu
> | >> > |
> | >> > | If I use Opera to open a .vbs file, it merely displays its
> contents.
> | >> > | Under Tools > Preferences > Advanced > Downloads there is no VBS
> file
> | >> > | type.
> | >> > |
> | >> > | ===============================================================
> | >> > |
> | >> > | While writing the above and trying things as I went, I finally
> got
> | >> > the
> | >> > | script to work. Unfortunately I lost track of what I did. :-(
> | >> > |
> | >> > | However, if I now rename scrrun.dll in the Windows\System
> directory
> | >> > to
> | >> > | scrrun.dl_, then the VB script breaks as before. Renaming other
> files
> | >> > | in the scr56en.exe package either has no effect, or produces
> other
> | >> > | errors. I notice that scrrun.dll appears in MEB's Filemon output
> | >> > | screen (thank you MEB) soon after mine errors out. Maybe that was
> the
> | >> > | problem all along.
> | >> > |
> | >> > | The following URL may offer an explanation for what happened:
> | >> > |http://www.auditmypc.com/process/scrrun.asp
> | >> > |
> | >> > | "The file, scrrun.dll, is used by windows when running scripts
> such
> | >> > as
> | >> > | those written with JScript or VBScript. If scrrun.dll is
> unavailable,
> | >> > | windows will not be able to execute scripts. If you do not use
> any
> | >> > | scripting on your computer you may be able to remove this file."
> | >> > |
> | >> > | Anyway I suspect that something broke my IE6 or WSH installation.
> I
> | >> > | hate installing updates and patches because this sort of thing
> seems
> | >> > | to happen to me a lot.
> | >> > |
> | >> > | Thanks to all for your help.
> | >> > |
> | >> > | - Franc Zabkar
> | >> > | --
> | >> > | Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
> | >>
> | >> > --
> | >> > Thanks or Good Luck,
> | >> > There may be humor in this post, and,
> | >> > Naturally, you will not sue,
> | >> > Should things get worse after this,
> | >> > PCR
> | >> > pcr...@netzero.net- Hide quoted text -
> | >>
> | >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
> | >>
> | >> - Show quoted text -
> | >
> | >
> |
>
>

MEB · May 2, 2008

Re: Bootup - Shutdown logger

Right, you noticed that too, huh. Here's a good one, search the Knowledge
Base, dang near everything of relevance to OSs other than XP and VISTA is
gone.

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
news:udZwaMIrIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| Talk about losing data, relatively recent changes at Microsoft.com have
| apparently removed a TON of downloads from availability.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:e87ohEIrIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > Got it, literally. Have that version here as well as dozens of other
| > not-offered-by WU files, though offered by Microsoft elsewhere. Just one
| > of
| > those annoying reference points/re-directions. I even made a point to
note
| > this on the web page for updating WIN9X. Don't take offense, just an FYI
| > for
| > those that might be following this thread, or find it during a search..
| >
| > --
| > MEB
| > --
| > _________
| >
| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
| > news:uaL8xyGrIHA.4788@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| > | They were provided via separate download associated with TechNet or
| > MSDN,
| > I
| > | forget which. Your version is the highest version distributed via
| > Windows
| > 9x
| > | installers, WU(9x) and packages like IE6SP1. Since WSH was never
| > considered
| > | a Critical Update, and later versions, while backwards compatible
| > | (apparently) were never added to the 9x update stream.
| > |
| > | --
| > | Gary S. Terhune
| > | MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | www.grystmill.com
| > |
| > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | news:eG4cl3CrIHA.2520@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| > | > Interesting.
| > | >
| > | > I have:
| > | > 5.6.0.6626 wscript.exe
| > | > 5.6.0.6626 cscript.exe
| > | >
| > | > And those were provided by Windows Update in this last clean
| > install...
| > | >
| > | > So where did the updated files come from....
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
| > | > --
| > | > _________
| > | >
| > | > "Lee" <melee5@my-deja.com> wrote in message
| > | >
| >
news:f6690c5f-3fe5-4b3f-8ee6-27a6257c2837@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
| > | > Thanks Gary, I can report not a single problem with version 8825
| > | > Scripting Host on my machine.
| > | >
| > | > MEB - MDGx.com already has an unofficial 5.6 and 5.7 9x scripting
host
| > | > packages, I was holding out for the official version for the very
| > | > reasons you mention.
| > | >
| > | > PCR - Wextract is the engine of the update executable package
itself,
| > | > it's version numbers vary a lot so it's not much use by itself. But
| > | > the digital signature of it both shows you the Signatory of the
| > | > package and that it has not been tampered with since by the word and
| > | > standing of the Signatory which in this case is MS - which is good
| > | > enough for me to trust it.
| > | >
| > | > On May 1, 7:48 am, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
| > | >> I have discovered that I also have version 8825 of SCR56EN. I'll
put
| > that
| > | > on
| > | >> my site instead of v. 6626. Have you guys decided if there are any
| > | > problems
| > | >> with 8825?
| > | >>
| > | >> --
| > | >> Gary S. Terhune
| > | >> MS-MVP Shell/Userwww.grystmill.com
| > | >>
| > | >> "Lee" <mel...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
| > | >>
| > | >>
| >
news:234891b6-c92a-42dc-810e-18295566059a@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
| > | >> On Apr 23, 7:15 pm, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote:
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >> > Franc Zabkar wrote:
| > | >>
| > | >> > | On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:42:49 -0400, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net>
| > put
| > | >> > | finger to keyboard and composed:
| > | >> > |
| > | >> > |>Another thing: what about your settings at...?...
| > | >> > |>
| > | >> > |>"Control Panel, Internet Options, Security tab, Select Internet
| > (&
| > | >> > |>maybe Local Intranet)"
| > | >> > |>
| > | >> > |>Are you at Default or Custom? If Custom, are the 3 Scripting
| > options
| > | >> > |>enabled? Mine are, (but not all the ActiveX options are
enabled).
| > | >> > |
| > | >> > | I'll try to answer everyone's questions here.
| > | >> > |
| > | >> > | These are my security settings:
| > | >> > |
| > | >> > | Local intranet Medium-low
| > | >> > | Trusted sites Low
| > | >> > | Internet Medium
| > | >> > | Restricted sites High
| > | >> > |
| > | >> > | I've tried setting Local intranet to Low but the error
remained.
| > | >>
| > | >> > Those settings were good, then. And I see you have solved the
| > problem
| > &
| > | >> > possibly could stop now. Probably, some 3rd-party software
renamed
| > your
| > | >> > Scrrun.dll as a security measure to prevent scripts from running,
&
| > you
| > | >> > will be fine now that you renamed it back.
| > | >>
| > | >> > | I've been able to successfully run Gary's .vbs script on my
other
| > | >> > | Win98SE box. Now I'm trying to find what is different about
them.
| > | >> > |
| > | >> > | According to msinfo32.exe, the two boxes are both using IE6SP1
| > with
| > | >> > | the same build version and same updates.
| > | >>
| > | >> > I'm not seeing that you have taken all the updates, at "IE, Help,
| > | >> > About"...!...
| > | >>
| > | >> > Yours... ;SP1;q240308;q313829;Q330994;Q828750
| > | >> > Mine....
| > | >> > SP1, Q313829, Q328970, Q328389, Q324929, Q810847, Q813951,
Q816506,
| > | >> > Q813489, Q330994, Q818529, Q822925, Q828750, Q824145, Q832894,
| > | >> > Q837009, Q831167, Q823353, Q867801, Q833989, Q834707, Q889293,
| > | >> > Q867282, Q891781, Q890923, Q883939, Q896688, Q905915, Q912812,
| > | >> > Q916281 & Q918439.
| > | >>
| > | >> > Although mine is misleading (because the registry key the data
| > comes
| > | >> > from is not cleared of superceded updates, but the later ones are
| > just
| > | >> > added)... you need to go to Windows Update & get at least Q916281
&
| > | >> > Q918439...
| > | >>
| > | >> >http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-021.mspx
| > | >> > Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-021
| > | >> > Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer (916281)
| > | >>
| > | >> >http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-022.mspx
| > | >> > Microsoft Security Bulletin MS06-022
| > | >> > Vulnerability in ART Image Rendering Could Allow Remote Code
| > Execution
| > | >> > (918439)
| > | >>
| > | >> > REMEMBER... To see the Win98 updates at Windows Update, you must
go
| > | >> > there from a Win98 machine. And that MSVCRT.dll you reported
| > earlier
| > | >> > looks suspiciously XP/Vista-irradiated to me...!...
| > | >>
| > | >> > You Me
| > | >> > MSVCRT.dll 6.10.8924.0 6.00.8797.0
| > | >>
| > | >> > Also, your script files...
| > | >>
| > | >> > jscript.dll 5.6.0.8513
| > | >> > vbscript.dll 5.6.0.8515
| > | >>
| > | >> > ...are STILL lower than my versions. Jugding from this SFCLog.txt
| > of
| > | >> > mine, you need at least one more update...
| > | >>
| > | >> > [C:\WINDOWS]
| > | >> > wscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
| > | >> > [c:\windows\COMMAND]
| > | >> > cscript.exe Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
| > | >> > [C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM]
| > | >> > jscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
| > | >> > scrobj.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
| > | >> > vbscript.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
| > | >> > wshext.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
| > | >> > scrrun.dll Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
| > | >> > wshom.ocx Updated 5.6.0.8515 1/14/03 5.6.0.8825 8/9/04 No
| > | >>
| > | >> > I'm not sure Windows Update will get that done for you. If not,
| > I'll
| > | >> > try
| > | >> > harder to recall what it was that I ran (back in '06 says the
date
| > in
| > | >> > SFCLog.txt) that got me updated to that.
| > | >>
| > | >> > Well... wait a minute... I am seeing those files with those dates
| > in
| > my
| > | >> > version of that file you mentioned... Scr56en.exe. Its Properties
| > says
| > | >> > my version is 5.50.4134.600. (Not sure where I got it from.)
| > | >>
| > | >> Hi,PCR. Check again and you will notice that the version you quote
is
| > | >> for Wextract.exe which is the package itself and NOT the update
files
| > | >> it contains. Your vbs version of 5.6.0.8825 is the latest MS
offered
| > | >> from this now dead
| > | >
| >
URL:http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/downloads/list/web...
| > | >>
| > | >> Begining with Gary's Scr56en.exe of 6626 version, MS would silently
| > | >> update the version available from the above website such that one
| > | >> always got the latest version. I have archived versions
| > | >> 6626
| > | >> 8515
| > | >> 8825
| > | >>
| > | >> The only one I think I might be missing was 8513. You could only
have
| > | >> gotten your version 8825 from that source as it was never available
| > | >> from the WinUP site for reasons I can't fathom at all. Update
917344
| > | >> does update just Jscript.dll to 8831 version, and once again NONE
of
| > | >> these updates will retrograde any version of files backwards. Files
| > | >> are only replaced if the incoming files are the same or higher
| > | >> version. So when Franc re-applys his 6626 version update all his
| > | >> script files should be getting refreshed provided they ARE the same
| > | >> version.
| > | >>
| > | >> I'll be emailing Gary (from lee_454 AT Yahoo) the latest version
for
| > | >> all to enjoy the latest scripting host package - it is NOT
available
| > | >> anywhere else that I know of, so thanks a lot Gary, we need it
hosted
| > | >> somewhere. To view the version of files inside, open it with WinZip
| > | >> and double click on the inf file to read, close to the bottom of
it,
| > | >> the version number. WinZip extracts just the inf file as a
temporary
| > | >> file in your TEMP folder and launches your default text file reader
| > to
| > | >> view it with, in such double click situations. To ensure trust, do
| > | >> check the Digital Signature to see that it is a valid MS file that
| > has
| > | >> not been tampered with.
| > | >>
| > | >> I once had a problem with script errors and found it was Norton's
| > | >> scripting guard causing it because when I removed Norton my vbs
spell
| > | >> checker started working again with out the errors. Perhaps Franc
has
| > | >> Norton? The "Can't create ActiveX Object" error report is a common
| > | >> one and more of a generic output than something specifically wrong
| > | >> with the script itself although the script CAN be wrong and
generate
| > | >> the valid error - when the same script works for several other
people
| > | >> it is NOT an ActiveX error after all. Something else is going on
with
| > | >> Franc's machine. Getting him the latest Scripting Host package
would
| > | >> be number one on my list of things to do.
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >> > | The above security settings
| > | >> > | are also identical.
| > | >> > |
| > | >> > | These are the IE data for the good box:
| > | >> > |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/xp2500IE.txt
| > | >> > |
| > | >> > | These are the IE data for the bad box:
| > | >> > |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/xp2500IE.txt
| > | >> > |
| > | >> > | This is the difference between the two data sets:
| > | >> > |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/diff_ie.txt
| > | >> > |
| > | >> > | I can find only one real difference and that is that the good
box
| > has
| > | >> > | a later version of vbscript.dll. However using this version on
| > the
| > | >> > bad
| > | >> > | box doesn't make the error go away.
| > | >> > |
| > | >> > | The good box also has Opera installed on it, although it is a
| > much
| > | >> > | earlier version.
| > | >> > |
| > | >> > | The same versions of wscript.exe are installed on both boxes.
| > | >> > |
| > | >> > | This a Filemon record up until the error box appears:
| > | >> > |http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/VBS_problem/vbs_filemon.txt
| > | >> > |
| > | >> > | The Filemon output screen isn't mousable, but holding down the
| > | >> > | Ctrl-Shift key plus Home/End/PgUp/PgDown and then selecting
Edit
| > >
| > | >> > | Copy enables one to copy and paste the output into Notepad.
| > Thanks
| > to
| > | >> > | MEB.
| > | >> > |
| > | >> > | As for TweakUI's IE settings, all but the following boxes are
| > | >> > checked:
| > | >> > |
| > | >> > | Clear document, run, typed-URL history on exit
| > | >> > | Show Favorites on Start Menu
| > | >> > |
| > | >> > | If I use Opera to open a .vbs file, it merely displays its
| > contents.
| > | >> > | Under Tools > Preferences > Advanced > Downloads there is no
VBS
| > file
| > | >> > | type.
| > | >> > |
| > | >> > | ===============================================================
| > | >> > |
| > | >> > | While writing the above and trying things as I went, I finally
| > got
| > | >> > the
| > | >> > | script to work. Unfortunately I lost track of what I did. :-(
| > | >> > |
| > | >> > | However, if I now rename scrrun.dll in the Windows\System
| > directory
| > | >> > to
| > | >> > | scrrun.dl_, then the VB script breaks as before. Renaming other
| > files
| > | >> > | in the scr56en.exe package either has no effect, or produces
| > other
| > | >> > | errors. I notice that scrrun.dll appears in MEB's Filemon
output
| > | >> > | screen (thank you MEB) soon after mine errors out. Maybe that
was
| > the
| > | >> > | problem all along.
| > | >> > |
| > | >> > | The following URL may offer an explanation for what happened:
| > | >> > |http://www.auditmypc.com/process/scrrun.asp
| > | >> > |
| > | >> > | "The file, scrrun.dll, is used by windows when running scripts
| > such
| > | >> > as
| > | >> > | those written with JScript or VBScript. If scrrun.dll is
| > unavailable,
| > | >> > | windows will not be able to execute scripts. If you do not use
| > any
| > | >> > | scripting on your computer you may be able to remove this
file."
| > | >> > |
| > | >> > | Anyway I suspect that something broke my IE6 or WSH
installation.
| > I
| > | >> > | hate installing updates and patches because this sort of thing
| > seems
| > | >> > | to happen to me a lot.
| > | >> > |
| > | >> > | Thanks to all for your help.
| > | >> > |
| > | >> > | - Franc Zabkar
| > | >> > | --
| > | >> > | Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
| > | >>
| > | >> > --
| > | >> > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > | >> > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > | >> > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > | >> > Should things get worse after this,
| > | >> > PCR
| > | >> > pcr...@netzero.net- Hide quoted text -
| > | >>
| > | >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
| > | >>
| > | >> - Show quoted text -
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| >
| >
|

Lee · May 4, 2008

Re: Bootup - Shutdown logger

On May 2, 1:57 am, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote:
> Lee wrote:
>
> | Thanks Gary, I can report not a single problem with version 8825
> | Scripting Host on my machine.
> |
> | MEB - MDGx.com already has an unofficial 5.6 and 5.7 9x scripting host
> | packages, I was holding out for the official version for the very
> | reasons you mention.
> |
> | PCR - Wextract is the engine of the update executable package itself,
> | it's version numbers vary a lot so it's not much use by itself. But
> | the digital signature of it both shows you the Signatory of the
> | package and that it has not been tampered with since by the word and
> | standing of the Signatory which in this case is MS - which is good
> | enough for me to trust it.
>
> OK. There certainly are a lot version numbers associated with the
> various Scr56en.exe. But why not just R-Clk it, Properties, Version tab?
> Mine says v.5.50.4134.600 there. And inside are files of v...8825. Won't
> that always be true?
>

While it will always be true just as you say, the version number
5.50.4134.600 is forever linked to IE 5.50 as per http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=164539.
So what happens when someone overthinks this part and wrongly assumes
the package can't/shouldn't be applied to IE 6.00 SP1? I'd rather
avoid the issue of the version of Wextract file and just tell them how
to view the insides to get the real version numbers. BTW the default
action for inf files is to OPEN them in the default text editor, never
to install them - unlike .reg files which merge with prompt as the
default action . So it's OK to double click inf files in the WinZip
window to read them.

As part of every IE version release, MS would also release an
Administrator's Kit to go with it, it was called IEAK and inside the
package there was the iexpress.exe file which would make these update
packages just so an admininistrator could roll his own installation
packages for delivery to the Network he was in charge of. Since
Win2000, the iexpress files have been a default install option such
that the general public is slowly being exposed to the Wextract engine
but some of us 98 users missed that boat entirely. The above simply a
means to explain away the many different version numbers of the MS
updates themselves.

> | On May 1, 7:48 am, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
> |> I have discovered that I also have version 8825 of SCR56EN. I'll put
> |> that on
> |> my site instead of v. 6626. Have you guys decided if there are any
> |> problems
> |> with 8825?
> |>
> |> --
> |> Gary S. Terhune
> |> MS-MVP Shell/Userwww.grystmill.com
> |>
>
> ...snip
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcr...@netzero.net

PCR · May 5, 2008

Re: Bootup - Shutdown logger

Lee wrote:
| On May 2, 1:57 am, "PCR" <pcr...@netzero.net> wrote:
|> Lee wrote:
|>
|> | Thanks Gary, I can report not a single problem with version 8825
|> | Scripting Host on my machine.
|> |
|> | MEB - MDGx.com already has an unofficial 5.6 and 5.7 9x scripting
|> | host packages, I was holding out for the official version for the
|> | very reasons you mention.
|> |
|> | PCR - Wextract is the engine of the update executable package
|> | itself, it's version numbers vary a lot so it's not much use by
|> | itself. But the digital signature of it both shows you the
|> | Signatory of the package and that it has not been tampered with
|> | since by the word and standing of the Signatory which in this case
|> | is MS - which is good enough for me to trust it.
|>
|> OK. There certainly are a lot version numbers associated with the
|> various Scr56en.exe. But why not just R-Clk it, Properties, Version
|> tab? Mine says v.5.50.4134.600 there. And inside are files of
|> v...8825. Won't that always be true?
|>
|
| While it will always be true just as you say, the version number
| 5.50.4134.600 is forever linked to IE 5.50 as per
| http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=164539.

Yikes! According to that list...

6.00.2800.1106 Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (Windows XP SP1)

....my own version is XP-irradiated! But I am Win98SE & never did defect
to XP!!!

| So what happens when someone overthinks this part and wrongly assumes
| the package can't/shouldn't be applied to IE 6.00 SP1? I'd rather
| avoid the issue of the version of Wextract file and just tell them how
| to view the insides to get the real version numbers.

I wouldn't, myself, suspect the version of Scr56en.exe (or WExtract, as
you call it) necessarily must match the version of IE. But I guess I see
what you are saying, especially if folk can create their own Scr56en.exe
using IExpress.exe.

| BTW the default
| action for inf files is to OPEN them in the default text editor, never
| to install them - unlike .reg files which merge with prompt as the
| default action . So it's OK to double click inf files in the WinZip
| window to read them.

It may be the default to open .inf files as you say in Notepad, instead
of running them-- and indeed mine do default to that. To get mine to
run, I must R-Clk, & select "Run". HOWEVER, WinZip puts up the scary
caution...

This file has a potentially unsafe file type of .INF:
SCR56EN.INF
You should not open this file if you received it from an untrusted
source, or in an attachment to an unexpected or suspicious
e-mail message.
Do you still want to open this file?

I'm just uncertain what WinZip intends to do, despite Windows's default.
You have only sworn twice that WinZip will have the same default. If you
swear it once more-- I will try it! Also, you must swear thrice that
WinZip v.9.0 SR-1 gives you the same scary warning!

| As part of every IE version release, MS would also release an
| Administrator's Kit to go with it, it was called IEAK and inside the
| package there was the iexpress.exe file which would make these update
| packages just so an admininistrator could roll his own installation
| packages for delivery to the Network he was in charge of. Since
| Win2000, the iexpress files have been a default install option such
| that the general public is slowly being exposed to the Wextract engine
| but some of us 98 users missed that boat entirely. The above simply a
| means to explain away the many different version numbers of the MS
| updates themselves.

I have no IExpress.exe that I can find, not even in my Win98SE .cabs.

|> | On May 1, 7:48 am, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
|> |> I have discovered that I also have version 8825 of SCR56EN. I'll
|> |> put that on
|> |> my site instead of v. 6626. Have you guys decided if there are any
|> |> problems
|> |> with 8825?
|> |>
|> |> --
|> |> Gary S. Terhune
|> |> MS-MVP Shell/Userwww.grystmill.com
|> |>
|>
|> ...snip
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcr...@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

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