Windows Vista Best Registry Cleaner for vista

[Adam Albright]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 15:15:23 -0400, "Daave"
<dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote:

>Adam Albright wrote:
>> On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 14:06:45 +0100, Alun Harford
>> <devnull@alunharford.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>> The tool is even more dangerous than doing it manually.
>>>>> Most users decide against the idea when confronted with the
>>>>> registry editor, because they realise that they don't know what
>>>>> they're doing. With a tool, most users go "Nice pretty wizard.
>>>>> Next, next, next, next, finish. Oh dear, my system doesn't boot
>>>>> any more." Only then do they realise that they didn't know what
>>>>> they were doing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alun Harford
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You're entitled to your opinion even if it isn't factual. The whole
>>>> point behind Registry Cleaners is to avoid deleting something by
>>>> mistake. Of course any tool used improperly isn't very smart. What
>>>> you avoid saying is Registry Tools while most have some automatic
>>>> feature also show you a list of what it is about to remove BEFORE
>>>> it actually does, allowing the user to decide what to delete and
>>>> what not to. Of course if anybody just haphazardly removes things
>>>> without knowing why that is dumb. However suggesting people
>>>> manually scan tens of
>>>> thousands of lines in the Registry looking for "bad" things on their
>>>> own is in my opinion equally risky and very time consuming. Stop
>>>> being anal.
>>>
>>> plonk
>>
>> When presented with facts, just plonk. How typical of fanboys.
>
>I'm anything but a "fanboy," but I would like to see you present these
>facts.

The fact is Registry Cleaners work when used properly is well
documented. All that's required is learning how to use Google and
you'll find countless articles from some REAL experts, not the fakers
that hang out here that confirm it.

 

[Mac]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-gb/default.htm?s_cid=ideas ?

Q. Why would anyone want to use a beta version of a MS registry cleaner?

"Gene85" <Gene85@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Microsoft has a FREE beta registry cleaner. It is part of One care! You
> can
> download it on their main page.
>
> "John Barnes" wrote:
>
>> I agree with most that it is not necessary and requires caution. That
>> said
>> Alias recommendation works fine and ALWAYS let it backup any entries you
>> are
>> going to delete. Unless you do a huge amount of installing and
>> uninstalling
>> of programs I would forget about it.
>>
>>
>> "Arun" <Arun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:50E926F2-55E9-4643-AAA7-BE185121B65C@microsoft.com...
>> > Can any One Suggest Best Registry Cleaner And residual file Cleaner for
>> > vista
>> > Ultimate.............
>>
>>

 

[Mac]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-gb/center/whatsnew.htm

"Gene85" <Gene85@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:758497C0-7622-4ACD-B9D6-5BFA81EFEA9D@microsoft.com...
> Microsoft has a FREE beta registry cleaner. It is part of One care! You
> can
> download it on their main page.
>
> "John Barnes" wrote:
>
>> I agree with most that it is not necessary and requires caution. That
>> said
>> Alias recommendation works fine and ALWAYS let it backup any entries you
>> are
>> going to delete. Unless you do a huge amount of installing and
>> uninstalling
>> of programs I would forget about it.
>>
>>
>> "Arun" <Arun@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:50E926F2-55E9-4643-AAA7-BE185121B65C@microsoft.com...
>> > Can any One Suggest Best Registry Cleaner And residual file Cleaner for
>> > vista
>> > Ultimate.............
>>
>>

 

[gizbug]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista


Tuneup Utilities 2007


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[Bruce Chambers]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

Adam Albright wrote:
>
>
> The fact is Registry Cleaners work when used properly is well
> documented.


Then please provide links to such purported documentation. In all the
years I've supported the various Windows operating systems, I've *never*
been able to find any verifiable, independent laboratory reports that
demonstrate the alleged value of registry cleaners. The only people
claiming that registry cleaners do any real good are the people selling
them.


> All that's required is learning how to use Google and
> you'll find countless articles from some REAL experts, not the fakers
> that hang out here that confirm it.
>

No, all Google turns up is marketing crap from the purveyors of these
snake oil products. No independent laboratory reports that even hint at
any benefits from using registry cleaners are to be found.


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[Alias]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

Bruce Chambers wrote:
> Adam Albright wrote:
>>
>>
>> The fact is Registry Cleaners work when used properly is well
>> documented.
>
>
> Then please provide links to such purported documentation. In all
> the years I've supported the various Windows operating systems, I've
> *never* been able to find any verifiable, independent laboratory reports
> that demonstrate the alleged value of registry cleaners. The only
> people claiming that registry cleaners do any real good are the people
> selling them.
>
>
>> All that's required is learning how to use Google and
>> you'll find countless articles from some REAL experts, not the fakers
>> that hang out here that confirm it.
>
> No, all Google turns up is marketing crap from the purveyors of
> these snake oil products. No independent laboratory reports that even
> hint at any benefits from using registry cleaners are to be found.
>
>

So don't use them.

Alias

 

[Mac]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

look up

"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
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> Bruce Chambers wrote:
>> Adam Albright wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> The fact is Registry Cleaners work when used properly is well
>>> documented.
>>
>>
>> Then please provide links to such purported documentation. In all
>> the years I've supported the various Windows operating systems, I've
>> *never* been able to find any verifiable, independent laboratory reports
>> that demonstrate the alleged value of registry cleaners. The only people
>> claiming that registry cleaners do any real good are the people selling
>> them.
>>
>>
>>> All that's required is learning how to use Google and
>>> you'll find countless articles from some REAL experts, not the fakers
>>> that hang out here that confirm it.
>>
>> No, all Google turns up is marketing crap from the purveyors of these
>> snake oil products. No independent laboratory reports that even hint at
>> any benefits from using registry cleaners are to be found.
>>
>>
>
> So don't use them.
>
> Alias

 

[keepout@yahoo.com.invalid]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 01:00:08 +0200, Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:

>So don't use them.

That right there is the BEST registry cleaner. NONE.
If someone wants to mess up their machine, just run regedit and start deleting things.
There's NEVER any need to physically by hand delete registry keys.
The key's are just taking up drive space until needed. Get a bigger HD if the registry's that big.
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[Alias]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

keepout@yahoo.com.invalid wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 01:00:08 +0200, Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote:
>
>> So don't use them.
>
> That right there is the BEST registry cleaner. NONE.
> If someone wants to mess up their machine, just run regedit and start deleting things.
> There's NEVER any need to physically by hand delete registry keys.
> The key's are just taking up drive space until needed. Get a bigger HD if the registry's that big.

I use SystemSuite5 and Crap Cleaner all the time and have never had a
problem on five Windows machines since 2000 when I started using first
SystemSuite4 and, later, Crap Cleaner. They have improved the
performance of my computers and have been *very* useful cleaning up the
crap that uninstalls and installs leave behind. As registry bloat is a
gradual thing, you don't even notice that your computer is getting
slower but it is.

Alias

 

[Mac]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

lookup

"Alias" <aka@maskedandanonymous.info> wrote in message
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> keepout@yahoo.com.invalid wrote:
>> On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 01:00:08 +0200, Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.info>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So don't use them.
>>
>> That right there is the BEST registry cleaner. NONE.
>> If someone wants to mess up their machine, just run regedit and start
>> deleting things.
>> There's NEVER any need to physically by hand delete registry keys.
>> The key's are just taking up drive space until needed. Get a bigger HD if
>> the registry's that big.
>
> I use SystemSuite5 and Crap Cleaner all the time and have never had a
> problem on five Windows machines since 2000 when I started using first
> SystemSuite4 and, later, Crap Cleaner. They have improved the performance
> of my computers and have been *very* useful cleaning up the crap that
> uninstalls and installs leave behind. As registry bloat is a gradual
> thing, you don't even notice that your computer is getting slower but it
> is.
>
> Alias

 

[Stephan Rose]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:35:45 +0100, Mac wrote:

> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-gb/default.htm?s_cid=ideas ?
>
> Q. Why would anyone want to use a beta version of a MS registry cleaner?

A. Because they are perfectly happy using a beta version of the Operating
System.

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[Mac]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

lol

"Stephan Rose" <nospam@spammer.com> wrote in message
news:xdudnULRgrqN5QzbRVnygwA@giganews.com...
> On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:35:45 +0100, Mac wrote:
>
>> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-gb/default.htm?s_cid=ideas ?
>>
>> Q. Why would anyone want to use a beta version of a MS registry cleaner?
>
> A. Because they are perfectly happy using a beta version of the Operating
> System.
>
> --
> Stephan
> 2003 Yamaha R6
>
> 君のこと思い出す日なんてないのは
> 君のこと忘れたときがないから

 

[OzBoy]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista


Bit lost here, thought the poster asked for a registry cleaner not
whether they work or not and especially not for the flaming that went
on. Only been coming here for a couple of weeks and was very surprised
by the contents of this post. Thought the idea was to help people????
Confused.


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[MICHAEL]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

* OzBoy:
> Bit lost here, thought the poster asked for a registry cleaner not
> whether they work or not and especially not for the flaming that went
> on. Only been coming here for a couple of weeks and was very surprised
> by the contents of this post. Thought the idea was to help people????
> Confused.

Pointing out the possible dangers of registry cleaners
*is* helping the user.... and other users who may read the
posts. This debate comes up every time registry cleaners
are mentioned. I think a lot of the debate is a good thing-
it allows lurkers or others who may come across the posts later,
to see the good, the bad and the ugly of registry cleaners.
For the most part, I think using them are a bad idea... used only
as a last resort. They can be helpful, *if* you know what you
are deleting or "cleaning/fixing".... most average users have no idea.

User beware, have backups, and be prepared to live and learn...
maybe a hard lesson. Then again, most of us have been there,
done that. Perhaps, it's his turn.

At least now, the OP has received the various POV and can make
his own decision.... armed with a little more insight.


-Michael

 

[Adam Albright]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 00:00:58 -0400, MICHAEL <u158627_emr2@dslr.net>
wrote:

>* OzBoy:
>> Bit lost here, thought the poster asked for a registry cleaner not
>> whether they work or not and especially not for the flaming that went
>> on. Only been coming here for a couple of weeks and was very surprised
>> by the contents of this post. Thought the idea was to help people????
>> Confused.
>
>Pointing out the possible dangers of registry cleaners
>*is* helping the user.... and other users who may read the
>posts. This debate comes up every time registry cleaners
>are mentioned. I think a lot of the debate is a good thing-
>it allows lurkers or others who may come across the posts later,
>to see the good, the bad and the ugly of registry cleaners.
>For the most part, I think using them are a bad idea... used only
>as a last resort. They can be helpful, *if* you know what you
>are deleting or "cleaning/fixing".... most average users have no idea.
>
>User beware, have backups, and be prepared to live and learn...
>maybe a hard lesson. Then again, most of us have been there,
>done that. Perhaps, it's his turn.
>
>At least now, the OP has received the various POV and can make
>his own decision.... armed with a little more insight.
>
>
>-Michael

You know, not one of you anti-Registry Clearer guys have offered a
shred of evidence to support your claims. Nothing but the usual hot
air and the thinly veiled take my advice I know more than you BS
that's always present.

Give me some FACTS. Cite chapter and verse, not just bloated opinion.

Any application used improperly can pose a danger. Like Vista itself.
Funny the fanboys never ever are critical of the biggest enemy to PCs
everywhere: Windows. The point here being there would be little need
for Registry Cleaners IF Windows actually knew how to totally delete
applications you no longer wanted. The truth is it often doesn't clean
up totally and Windows is in part to blame. You would think with all
the mindless nag screens Vista has, it would be smart enough to pop up
a warning box saying such and such entry in Registry points to
nowhere. Wishful thinking.

 

[OzBoy]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista


MICHAEL;374457 Wrote:
> * OzBoy:
> > Bit lost here, thought the poster asked for a registry cleaner not
> > whether they work or not and especially not for the flaming that
> went
> > on. Only been coming here for a couple of weeks and was very
> surprised
> > by the contents of this post. Thought the idea was to help
> people????
> > Confused.
>
> Pointing out the possible dangers of registry cleaners
> *is* helping the user.... and other users who may read the
> posts. This debate comes up every time registry cleaners
> are mentioned. I think a lot of the debate is a good thing-
> it allows lurkers or others who may come across the posts later,
> to see the good, the bad and the ugly of registry cleaners.
> For the most part, I think using them are a bad idea... used only
> as a last resort. They can be helpful, *if* you know what you
> are deleting or "cleaning/fixing".... most average users have no idea.
>
> User beware, have backups, and be prepared to live and learn...
> maybe a hard lesson. Then again, most of us have been there,
> done that. Perhaps, it's his turn.
>
> At least now, the OP has received the various POV and can make
> his own decision.... armed with a little more insight.
>
>
> -Michael
Hi Michael

Understand exactly where you coming from but wouldn't it be best to
have a thread titled "Are registry cleaners any good?" and then let
people put there comments up. This thread is entitled best registry
cleaner for windows and over 6 pages I think only 4 are mentioned.

But I do understand what you mean just a little surprised at the some
of the posts under this topic.....no doubt I will continue to be
surprised as I get to know the site and it's members a little better.

Cheers OzBoy


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[MICHAEL]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista



* Adam Albright:
> On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 00:00:58 -0400, MICHAEL <u158627_emr2@dslr.net>
> wrote:
>
>> * OzBoy:
>>> Bit lost here, thought the poster asked for a registry cleaner not
>>> whether they work or not and especially not for the flaming that went
>>> on. Only been coming here for a couple of weeks and was very surprised
>>> by the contents of this post. Thought the idea was to help people????
>>> Confused.
>> Pointing out the possible dangers of registry cleaners
>> *is* helping the user.... and other users who may read the
>> posts. This debate comes up every time registry cleaners
>> are mentioned. I think a lot of the debate is a good thing-
>> it allows lurkers or others who may come across the posts later,
>> to see the good, the bad and the ugly of registry cleaners.
>> For the most part, I think using them are a bad idea... used only
>> as a last resort. They can be helpful, *if* you know what you
>> are deleting or "cleaning/fixing".... most average users have no idea.
>>
>> User beware, have backups, and be prepared to live and learn...
>> maybe a hard lesson. Then again, most of us have been there,
>> done that. Perhaps, it's his turn.
>>
>> At least now, the OP has received the various POV and can make
>> his own decision.... armed with a little more insight.
>>
>>
>> -Michael
>
> You know, not one of you anti-Registry Clearer guys have offered a
> shred of evidence to support your claims. Nothing but the usual hot
> air and the thinly veiled take my advice I know more than you BS
> that's always present.

Adam,

I never said I was "anti" anything, you big dummy.

Take a breath, put down the booze, pull your finger(s)
out of your bung hole, and know there are other ways
than just your way..... you're just as guilty as those you accuse.


-Michael

 

[The Sand]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista


My system (Vista) crashed July 5th due to Trend Micro Anti-Spyware and I
paid $59. to talk to the people at Microsoft for 6 HOURS to get it
running again (best $59 bucks I ever spent.) Anyway... he (the
Microsoft guy) installed CCeaner on it... it's on my desktop right now.
I haven't used it again but clearly Microsoft thinks it's good and/or
safe or they wouldn't of installed it.


--
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[MICHAEL]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

* OzBoy:
> MICHAEL;374457 Wrote:
>> * OzBoy:
>>> Bit lost here, thought the poster asked for a registry cleaner not
>>> whether they work or not and especially not for the flaming that
>> went
>>> on. Only been coming here for a couple of weeks and was very
>> surprised
>>> by the contents of this post. Thought the idea was to help
>> people????
>>> Confused.
>> Pointing out the possible dangers of registry cleaners
>> *is* helping the user.... and other users who may read the
>> posts. This debate comes up every time registry cleaners
>> are mentioned. I think a lot of the debate is a good thing-
>> it allows lurkers or others who may come across the posts later,
>> to see the good, the bad and the ugly of registry cleaners.
>> For the most part, I think using them are a bad idea... used only
>> as a last resort. They can be helpful, *if* you know what you
>> are deleting or "cleaning/fixing".... most average users have no idea.
>>
>> User beware, have backups, and be prepared to live and learn...
>> maybe a hard lesson. Then again, most of us have been there,
>> done that. Perhaps, it's his turn.
>>
>> At least now, the OP has received the various POV and can make
>> his own decision.... armed with a little more insight.
>>
>>
>> -Michael
> Hi Michael
>
> Understand exactly where you coming from but wouldn't it be best to
> have a thread titled "Are registry cleaners any good?" and then let
> people put there comments up. This thread is entitled best registry
> cleaner for windows and over 6 pages I think only 4 are mentioned.
>
> But I do understand what you mean just a little surprised at the some
> of the posts under this topic.....no doubt I will continue to be
> surprised as I get to know the site and it's members a little better.
>
> Cheers OzBoy

Since this is a very busy group, I think it works a bit better
to just address issues as they come up, instead of adding
random discussion topics.

Either way, I reckon there will alway be folks who have very
strong opinions and things can get heated at times... no biggie.

Registry cleaners *can* be dangerous, they *may* be helpful.
I wouldn't suggest people use them as part of routine maintenance.
But, they may be useful when trying to fix a specific problem.
I think for most users, CrapCleaner should be fine. It doesn't
"dig" too deep and prompts to make a backup.

Stick around, OZ. You might find there are actually some
helpful folks around here and quite a bit of good info.
I've been participating in this group since June 2006, and
I really believe I've gotten a great deal from this group.


Take care,

Michael

 

[Hugh Jass]

Re: Best Registry Cleaner for vista

But if I had a car, and took out the V6 engine, and put in a V8 engine, I
would want the V6 distributor out, because it isn't doing anything.


"Myweb" <meiweb@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Hello Arun,
>
> For what did you have the need for cleaning your registry? If you delete
> something without knowledge and about the need for the entry you can break
> your system. Then maybe you have to reinstall. So why not using it like it
> is? If you buy a car you also will not take out some electronic or some
> devices from the engine.
>
> Best regards
>
> Myweb
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
>
>> Can any One Suggest Best Registry Cleaner And residual file Cleaner
>> for vista Ultimate.............
>>
>
>


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