Deleting Files causes Freezup

[PCR]

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

Rick Chauvin wrote:
| "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
| news:39cgc4hjrfc32gqf68srm3aunbmb7amqp8@4ax.com
|> On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 19:59:37 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
|> finger to keyboard and composed:
|>
|>>IE6, for some, has a problem with Copy/Delete of very large files or
|>>folders full of folders & files. Here is the fix others have
|>>discovered for that. Basically, move the IE6 versions of
|>>BrowseLC.dll & BrowseUI.dll from "C:Windows\System\" to the folder
|>>that contains IE6 (IEXPLORE.EXE), which likely is "C:\Program
|>>Files\Internet Explorer\". Then, move the IE5.5 versions of those
|>>DLL's into "C:Windows\System\". Doing it that way allows IE6 to use
|>>its .dll's-- but Explorer & all else (if anything) will use the
|>>IE5.5 .dll's.
|>
|> I can't understand why, but after doing this, my Explorer settings
|> reverted to View as Web Page and with Large Icons. My previous
|> settings were to not View as Web Page and to show Details. I would
|> have thought these settings were stored in the registry.
|
| It will most times revert to View as Web Page, etc, like that when you
| change those dll's around.
|
| Anyway, I think the OP (letterman) got his situation solved?
| ..allbeit the long way around.
|
| I did have a write up about this a while ago, and even give the dll's
| needed; as Glen said though, this is old stuff and talked about more
| times than we wanted to remember. I never bothered to take the
| webpage down though so it's still active.
|
| http://rdchauvin.com/W98xIE6xBug.htm

It's only 7:19 PM, Chauvin-- your post shows 7:48!

For the others reading: IIRC, to run the IE Repair tool or an
over-install of IE, one must switch those .dll's back first.

| Rick
|
|
|>
|> - Franc Zabkar
|> --
|> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[Rick Chauvin]

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup



"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
news:39cgc4hjrfc32gqf68srm3aunbmb7amqp8@4ax.com
> On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 19:59:37 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
> finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>>IE6, for some, has a problem with Copy/Delete of very large files or
>>folders full of folders & files. Here is the fix others have discovered
>>for that. Basically, move the IE6 versions of BrowseLC.dll &
>>BrowseUI.dll from "C:Windows\System\" to the folder that contains IE6
>>(IEXPLORE.EXE), which likely is "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\".
>>Then, move the IE5.5 versions of those DLL's into "C:Windows\System\".
>>Doing it that way allows IE6 to use its .dll's-- but Explorer & all else
>>(if anything) will use the IE5.5 .dll's.
>
> I can't understand why, but after doing this, my Explorer settings
> reverted to View as Web Page and with Large Icons. My previous
> settings were to not View as Web Page and to show Details. I would
> have thought these settings were stored in the registry.

It will most times revert to View as Web Page, etc, like that when you
change those dll's around.

Anyway, I think the OP (letterman) got his situation solved? ..allbeit the
long way around.

I did have a write up about this a while ago, and even give the dll's
needed; as Glen said though, this is old stuff and talked about more times
than we wanted to remember. I never bothered to take the webpage down
though so it's still active.

http://rdchauvin.com/W98xIE6xBug.htm

Rick


>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

 

[FromTheRafters]

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup


"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E5B807E0-0EA9-40AE-9623-1FD6FAD53957@microsoft.com...
> Please Google Chris Quirke who is a most valuable Microsoft Professional
> and
> you will see he has the correct information.

He also has opinions - as do we all.

> His blog is most informative

I actually followed you to this newsgroup because you
led me to believe Chris posted here. I missed his sense
of humor - and the depth and width of his knowledge.

>and there is no true MS-DOS, maintenance operating system with the business
> source code line of Microsoft products which are NT, 2000, XP and Vista
> and
> there is with the 9x source code line of products although it is limited
> in
> Windows ME. {Note: I have even confirmed this with Microsoft so it is a
> fact.}

Okay - - did they happen to mention what the limitations
are in the Vista replacement for the recovery console?

> "FromTheRafters" wrote:
>
>>
>> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:366C6894-9050-4EE1-8D63-B9B646831819@microsoft.com...
>>
>> > I do like MS-DOS that 98 Second Edition has as its maintenance
>> > operating
>> > system because it is fun to work in a true text based environment and
>> > not
>> > just
>> > a command.com prompt text based interface.
>>
>> Command.com *is* the MS-DOS user interface, especially
>> since they dropped the GUI Dosshell.exe.
>>
>>
>>

 

[letterman@invalid.com]

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 06:48:19 +1000, Franc Zabkar
<fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 19:59:37 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
>finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>>IE6, for some, has a problem with Copy/Delete of very large files or
>>folders full of folders & files. Here is the fix others have discovered
>>for that. Basically, move the IE6 versions of BrowseLC.dll &
>>BrowseUI.dll from "C:Windows\System\" to the folder that contains IE6
>>(IEXPLORE.EXE), which likely is "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\".
>>Then, move the IE5.5 versions of those DLL's into "C:Windows\System\".
>>Doing it that way allows IE6 to use its .dll's-- but Explorer & all else
>>(if anything) will use the IE5.5 .dll's.
>
>I can't understand why, but after doing this, my Explorer settings
>reverted to View as Web Page and with Large Icons. My previous
>settings were to not View as Web Page and to show Details. I would
>have thought these settings were stored in the registry.
>
>- Franc Zabkar

This makes me wonder if ANYONE hasever used and enjoyed that "View as
Web page" feature in Explorer? I hated it the first time I saw it,
and still do. It reminds me of XP, and I find XP absolutely
repulsive.
I have never known one person that uses that View as Web Page setting.
I wish it could be entirely removed.

 

[letterman@invalid.com]

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:48:30 -0500, "Rick Chauvin"
<justask@nospamz.com> wrote:

>
>
>"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
>news:39cgc4hjrfc32gqf68srm3aunbmb7amqp8@4ax.com
>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 19:59:37 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
>> finger to keyboard and composed:
>>
>>>IE6, for some, has a problem with Copy/Delete of very large files or
>>>folders full of folders & files. Here is the fix others have discovered
>>>for that. Basically, move the IE6 versions of BrowseLC.dll &
>>>BrowseUI.dll from "C:Windows\System\" to the folder that contains IE6
>>>(IEXPLORE.EXE), which likely is "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\".
>>>Then, move the IE5.5 versions of those DLL's into "C:Windows\System\".
>>>Doing it that way allows IE6 to use its .dll's-- but Explorer & all else
>>>(if anything) will use the IE5.5 .dll's.
>>
>> I can't understand why, but after doing this, my Explorer settings
>> reverted to View as Web Page and with Large Icons. My previous
>> settings were to not View as Web Page and to show Details. I would
>> have thought these settings were stored in the registry.
>
>It will most times revert to View as Web Page, etc, like that when you
>change those dll's around.
>
>Anyway, I think the OP (letterman) got his situation solved? ..allbeit the
>long way around.
>
>I did have a write up about this a while ago, and even give the dll's
>needed; as Glen said though, this is old stuff and talked about more times
>than we wanted to remember. I never bothered to take the webpage down
>though so it's still active.
>
>http://rdchauvin.com/W98xIE6xBug.htm
>
>Rick
>

I solved it by restoring an older backup, and not reinstalling IE6.
I still want to play around with the screwed up installation and
change these DLL files.

By the way, I learned something from this.
When you restore a backup, you can copy the desktop folder from your
current version into the backup after it's renamed to desktop2 or
something. That way you can copy new links and stuff to the actual
desktop.

 

[letterman@invalid.com]

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:24:31 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:

>Rick Chauvin wrote:
>| "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
>| news:39cgc4hjrfc32gqf68srm3aunbmb7amqp8@4ax.com
>|> On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 19:59:37 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
>|> finger to keyboard and composed:
>|>
>|>>IE6, for some, has a problem with Copy/Delete of very large files or
>|>>folders full of folders & files. Here is the fix others have
>|>>discovered for that. Basically, move the IE6 versions of
>|>>BrowseLC.dll & BrowseUI.dll from "C:Windows\System\" to the folder
>|>>that contains IE6 (IEXPLORE.EXE), which likely is "C:\Program
>|>>Files\Internet Explorer\". Then, move the IE5.5 versions of those
>|>>DLL's into "C:Windows\System\". Doing it that way allows IE6 to use
>|>>its .dll's-- but Explorer & all else (if anything) will use the
>|>>IE5.5 .dll's.
>|>
>|> I can't understand why, but after doing this, my Explorer settings
>|> reverted to View as Web Page and with Large Icons. My previous
>|> settings were to not View as Web Page and to show Details. I would
>|> have thought these settings were stored in the registry.
>|
>| It will most times revert to View as Web Page, etc, like that when you
>| change those dll's around.
>|
>| Anyway, I think the OP (letterman) got his situation solved?
>| ..allbeit the long way around.
>|
>| I did have a write up about this a while ago, and even give the dll's
>| needed; as Glen said though, this is old stuff and talked about more
>| times than we wanted to remember. I never bothered to take the
>| webpage down though so it's still active.
>|
>| http://rdchauvin.com/W98xIE6xBug.htm
>
>It's only 7:19 PM, Chauvin-- your post shows 7:48!
>
>For the others reading: IIRC, to run the IE Repair tool or an
>over-install of IE, one must switch those .dll's back first.
>
>| Rick

Yes, I believe that is true. I'd just keep a copy of the replacement
DLLs in a separate folder and copy them back. Better yet, ZIP them.

I wont have that problem, I am not going to reinstall IE6. IE5.5 is
fine, since I rarely ever use IE anyhow.

 

[letterman@invalid.com]

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:16:38 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:

>Glad to have been useful. But I don't know much more about it. And don't
>blame me if Terhune should show up & hit you over the head with a fat
>.dll for thinking of an over-install of Windows & the VCM!

Be thankful. You can killfile him online. Could you imagine having
to live with that bitter rude grump............
I bet he spends his whole life reinstalling Windows.....

 

[Dan]

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

Chris Quirke, mvp has posted here in the past. He is probably too busy to
post right now.

"FromTheRafters" wrote:

>
> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E5B807E0-0EA9-40AE-9623-1FD6FAD53957@microsoft.com...
> > Please Google Chris Quirke who is a most valuable Microsoft Professional
> > and
> > you will see he has the correct information.
>
> He also has opinions - as do we all.
>
> > His blog is most informative
>
> I actually followed you to this newsgroup because you
> led me to believe Chris posted here. I missed his sense
> of humor - and the depth and width of his knowledge.
>
> >and there is no true MS-DOS, maintenance operating system with the business
> > source code line of Microsoft products which are NT, 2000, XP and Vista
> > and
> > there is with the 9x source code line of products although it is limited
> > in
> > Windows ME. {Note: I have even confirmed this with Microsoft so it is a
> > fact.}
>
> Okay - - did they happen to mention what the limitations
> are in the Vista replacement for the recovery console?
>
> > "FromTheRafters" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:366C6894-9050-4EE1-8D63-B9B646831819@microsoft.com...
> >>
> >> > I do like MS-DOS that 98 Second Edition has as its maintenance
> >> > operating
> >> > system because it is fun to work in a true text based environment and
> >> > not
> >> > just
> >> > a command.com prompt text based interface.
> >>
> >> Command.com *is* the MS-DOS user interface, especially
> >> since they dropped the GUI Dosshell.exe.
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

 

[Franc Zabkar]

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:03:26 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

>Franc Zabkar wrote:
>| On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 19:59:37 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
>| finger to keyboard and composed:
>|
>|>IE6, for some, has a problem with Copy/Delete of very large files or
>|>folders full of folders & files. Here is the fix others have
>|>discovered for that. Basically, move the IE6 versions of BrowseLC.dll
>|>& BrowseUI.dll from "C:Windows\System\" to the folder that contains
>|>IE6 (IEXPLORE.EXE), which likely is "C:\Program Files\Internet
>|>Explorer\". Then, move the IE5.5 versions of those DLL's into
>|>"C:Windows\System\". Doing it that way allows IE6 to use its .dll's--
>|>but Explorer & all else (if anything) will use the IE5.5 .dll's.
>|
>| I can't understand why, but after doing this, my Explorer settings
>| reverted to View as Web Page and with Large Icons. My previous
>| settings were to not View as Web Page and to show Details. I would
>| have thought these settings were stored in the registry.
>
>I don't recall that happening when I tested it a while ago. As long as
>you could easily get the settings back to normal, it probably isn't
>worth an intensive investigation; otherwise, I'd mess with those
>settings while tracking with InCtrl5 to see what happens.

I recovered my old settings without too much hassle.

>The menu in
>Explorer could end up looking a tad different is the only anomaly I
>recall. I trust the main issue was solved for you & there was no
>detectable serious side effect (or you'd have said so & possibly have
>assasinated me or Bill of Co. &/or Chauvin). I should mention this
>switch of files should only be done after all updates at Windows Update
>have been taken; otherwise, the LC &/or UI file could get replaced
>again.

I copied and deleted several GB of files without the dreaded slowdown,
so your fix appears to have worked. Thanks.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

 

[Franc Zabkar]

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:55:29 -0500, letterman@invalid.com put finger
to keyboard and composed:

>This makes me wonder if ANYONE hasever used and enjoyed that "View as
>Web page" feature in Explorer? I hated it the first time I saw it,
>and still do. It reminds me of XP, and I find XP absolutely
>repulsive.
>I have never known one person that uses that View as Web Page setting.
>I wish it could be entirely removed.

I haven't tried it myself, but I believe you can "de-webify" Win98SE
with 98lite:
http://www.litepc.com/98lite.html

I'd only experiment with a fresh install, though, not an over-install.
I'd also expect the unexpected when you apply updates.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

 

[letterman@invalid.com]

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:05:51 +1000, Franc Zabkar
<fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:03:26 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
>finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>>Franc Zabkar wrote:
>>| On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 19:59:37 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
>>| finger to keyboard and composed:
>>|
>>|>IE6, for some, has a problem with Copy/Delete of very large files or
>>|>folders full of folders & files. Here is the fix others have
>>|>discovered for that. Basically, move the IE6 versions of BrowseLC.dll
>>|>& BrowseUI.dll from "C:Windows\System\" to the folder that contains
>>|>IE6 (IEXPLORE.EXE), which likely is "C:\Program Files\Internet
>>|>Explorer\". Then, move the IE5.5 versions of those DLL's into
>>|>"C:Windows\System\". Doing it that way allows IE6 to use its .dll's--
>>|>but Explorer & all else (if anything) will use the IE5.5 .dll's.
>>|
>>| I can't understand why, but after doing this, my Explorer settings
>>| reverted to View as Web Page and with Large Icons. My previous
>>| settings were to not View as Web Page and to show Details. I would
>>| have thought these settings were stored in the registry.
>>
>>I don't recall that happening when I tested it a while ago. As long as
>>you could easily get the settings back to normal, it probably isn't
>>worth an intensive investigation; otherwise, I'd mess with those
>>settings while tracking with InCtrl5 to see what happens.
>
>I recovered my old settings without too much hassle.
>
>>The menu in
>>Explorer could end up looking a tad different is the only anomaly I
>>recall. I trust the main issue was solved for you & there was no
>>detectable serious side effect (or you'd have said so & possibly have
>>assasinated me or Bill of Co. &/or Chauvin). I should mention this
>>switch of files should only be done after all updates at Windows Update
>>have been taken; otherwise, the LC &/or UI file could get replaced
>>again.
>
>I copied and deleted several GB of files without the dreaded slowdown,
>so your fix appears to have worked. Thanks.
>
>- Franc Zabkar

I just thought of something. What if someone installs a different
program as a file manager. Will the computer still freeze after a
major copy or delete? I just downloaded an old file manager called
Servant Salamander (freeware) from http://vorvan.sh.cvut.cz/salamander
I just installed it, but I kind of like it so far. I guess I can only
give this a try on my screwed up copy of win98, and see what happens.

 

[Dan]

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

Windows 98 Second Edition is lite and so what is the point of lightening it
up more?

"Franc Zabkar" wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:55:29 -0500, letterman@invalid.com put finger
> to keyboard and composed:
>
> >This makes me wonder if ANYONE hasever used and enjoyed that "View as
> >Web page" feature in Explorer? I hated it the first time I saw it,
> >and still do. It reminds me of XP, and I find XP absolutely
> >repulsive.
> >I have never known one person that uses that View as Web Page setting.
> >I wish it could be entirely removed.
>
> I haven't tried it myself, but I believe you can "de-webify" Win98SE
> with 98lite:
> http://www.litepc.com/98lite.html
>
> I'd only experiment with a fresh install, though, not an over-install.
> I'd also expect the unexpected when you apply updates.
>
> - Franc Zabkar
> --
> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
>

 

[dadiOH]

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

letterman@invalid.com wrote:
> This makes me wonder if ANYONE hasever used and enjoyed that "View as
> Web page" feature in Explorer? I hated it the first time I saw it,
> and still do. It reminds me of XP, and I find XP absolutely
> repulsive.

XP can look just like Win98. Mine does.

--

dadiOH
____________________________

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....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

 

[Rick Chauvin]

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup



"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:uKyylx5EJHA.5224@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
[....]

> It's only 7:19 PM, Chauvin-- your post shows 7:48!

? My computer tray clock is showing me it's within seconds of my Atomic
Clock on the wall, so I'm not sure what you're seeing with those odd #
minutes.

Although I've had glimpses on other forum posts on the past, that my ISP's
server in some cases ends up posting a 1 hour difference depending on where
I'm posting too; however when I post here and when the post shows up the
time it says it's posted as is accurate to my clock.

Rick

>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

[Dan]

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

My XP Professional does too. BTW, I wanted to switch from Internet Explorer
7 to IE 6 for XP Pro. and even with Microsoft's help, I now have *.dll with
application failed. Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.16 on XP Professional SP3 is now
gone and removed at Microsoft's suggestion because I wanted to attend their
Live Meeting and Microsoft told me it could only be done within Internet
Explorer and so XP Professional web browsers are now all toast. The rest of
the operating system still works normally and I will eventually do a full
backup and clean install. I will not go with Internet Explorer 7 again
because it does not work as well as Internet Explorer 6 fully updated. I am
glad IE 5.5 works well for the poster and on my 98 SE side, it works well
fully updated with one MS-DOS error that I am still investigating but I will
post about that another time when I actually have time to work on it. I know
I am hijacking this post but I figured it is okay since the issue has been
resolved and all the people are posting here in this topic that I want to see
this post. Have a great September 11, 2001 and remember it has already been
7 years which I can hardly believe because the event is still so fresh in my
mind but enough of that and God Bless Everyone especially Canada, Ireland,
USA, Africa, New Zealand, Australia, England, France, Spain, Scotland,
Belgium, Germany and yes even Russia. <smile>

"dadiOH" wrote:

> letterman@invalid.com wrote:
> > This makes me wonder if ANYONE hasever used and enjoyed that "View as
> > Web page" feature in Explorer? I hated it the first time I saw it,
> > and still do. It reminds me of XP, and I find XP absolutely
> > repulsive.
>
> XP can look just like Win98. Mine does.
>
> --
>
> dadiOH
> ____________________________
>
> dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
> ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
> Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
>
>
>
>

 

[Franc Zabkar]

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 04:50:01 -0700, Dan
<Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>Windows 98 Second Edition is lite and so what is the point of lightening it
>up more?

http://www.litepc.com/swap.html

"The CHUBBY desktop is 100% Windows98, and is the ideal speed boost
for people who do not own Windows95, or that simply must have the
Windows98 shell enhancements. The CHUBBY desktop is the same Explorer
desktop that is installed with Windows98, but the View as a Web Page
and Active Desktop features have been totally removed to breath some
life back into Explorer. You can turn these features off normally, but
Explorer is still doing a lot of redundant work in the background.
98lite removes the features completely, including all the associated
registry baggage to maximise the performance of your desktop
environment."

98lite is claimed to "eliminate the performance robbing waste of
resources from features you don't use". If this means that my
ResourceMeter won't go into the red as often as it does now, then
maybe 98lite is worth a look.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

 

[Dan]

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

Thanks, my customized 98 Second Edition certainly does not need lite. I
agree with Gary S. Terhune that it is essential to be edit to manually edit
the registry to remove old entries and also it is great because it is a
complete clean install on a custom build with a Falcon Northwest case because
it was originally a Falcon Nortwest with Windows 98 back in about the year
2000. Now with 2 hard drives and 98 Second Edition as the primary operating
system it is awesome and the nice thing is 98 SE does not go down for me at
least like XP Professional does or like even Vista Home Premium can. I will
indeed have to eventually do a clean install of XP Professional but wonder
whether I should have the file system for XP Pro. in Fat32 rather than NTFS
because despite the security of NTFS it does not seem to have the stability
of the Fat32 file system at least in my testing of computers and my
observations. I am sure everyone will be outraged to hear my opinion about
this and strongly disagree but that is why we all post here to share our
ideas and opinions and allow others to correct us despite when it hurts.

"Franc Zabkar" wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 04:50:01 -0700, Dan
> <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>
> >Windows 98 Second Edition is lite and so what is the point of lightening it
> >up more?
>
> http://www.litepc.com/swap.html
>
> "The CHUBBY desktop is 100% Windows98, and is the ideal speed boost
> for people who do not own Windows95, or that simply must have the
> Windows98 shell enhancements. The CHUBBY desktop is the same Explorer
> desktop that is installed with Windows98, but the View as a Web Page
> and Active Desktop features have been totally removed to breath some
> life back into Explorer. You can turn these features off normally, but
> Explorer is still doing a lot of redundant work in the background.
> 98lite removes the features completely, including all the associated
> registry baggage to maximise the performance of your desktop
> environment."
>
> 98lite is claimed to "eliminate the performance robbing waste of
> resources from features you don't use". If this means that my
> ResourceMeter won't go into the red as often as it does now, then
> maybe 98lite is worth a look.
>
> - Franc Zabkar
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>

 

[PCR]

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

letterman@invalid.com wrote:
| On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:16:38 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:
|
|>Glad to have been useful. But I don't know much more about it. And
|>don't blame me if Terhune should show up & hit you over the head with
|>a fat .dll for thinking of an over-install of Windows & the VCM!
|
| Be thankful. You can killfile him online. Could you imagine having
| to live with that bitter rude grump............
| I bet he spends his whole life reinstalling Windows.....

That isn't his fault! He lives in an earthquake zone where windows break
easily!


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[PCR]

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

Franc Zabkar wrote:
| On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:03:26 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
| finger to keyboard and composed:
|
|>Franc Zabkar wrote:
|>| On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 19:59:37 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
|>| finger to keyboard and composed:
|>|
|>|>IE6, for some, has a problem with Copy/Delete of very large files or
|>|>folders full of folders & files. Here is the fix others have
|>|>discovered for that. Basically, move the IE6 versions of
|>|>BrowseLC.dll & BrowseUI.dll from "C:Windows\System\" to the folder
|>|>that contains IE6 (IEXPLORE.EXE), which likely is "C:\Program
|>|>Files\Internet Explorer\". Then, move the IE5.5 versions of those
|>|>DLL's into "C:Windows\System\". Doing it that way allows IE6 to use
|>|>its .dll's-- but Explorer & all else (if anything) will use the
|>|>IE5.5 .dll's.
|>|
|>| I can't understand why, but after doing this, my Explorer settings
|>| reverted to View as Web Page and with Large Icons. My previous
|>| settings were to not View as Web Page and to show Details. I would
|>| have thought these settings were stored in the registry.
|>
|>I don't recall that happening when I tested it a while ago. As long as
|>you could easily get the settings back to normal, it probably isn't
|>worth an intensive investigation; otherwise, I'd mess with those
|>settings while tracking with InCtrl5 to see what happens.
|
| I recovered my old settings without too much hassle.

Very good. I see Chauvin has confirmed the phenomenon. I guess I was too
busy testing to notice it.

|>The menu in
|>Explorer could end up looking a tad different is the only anomaly I
|>recall. I trust the main issue was solved for you & there was no
|>detectable serious side effect (or you'd have said so & possibly have
|>assasinated me or Bill of Co. &/or Chauvin). I should mention this
|>switch of files should only be done after all updates at Windows
|>Update have been taken; otherwise, the LC &/or UI file could get
|>replaced again.
|
| I copied and deleted several GB of files without the dreaded slowdown,
| so your fix appears to have worked. Thanks.

You are welcome. Glad to have been helpful.

| - Franc Zabkar
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[PCR]

Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

letterman@invalid.com wrote:
| On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:05:51 +1000, Franc Zabkar
| <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote:
|
|>On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:03:26 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
|>finger to keyboard and composed:
|>
|>>Franc Zabkar wrote:
|>>| On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 19:59:37 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
|>>| finger to keyboard and composed:
|>>|
|>>|>IE6, for some, has a problem with Copy/Delete of very large files
|>>|>or folders full of folders & files. Here is the fix others have
|>>|>discovered for that. Basically, move the IE6 versions of
|>>|>BrowseLC.dll & BrowseUI.dll from "C:Windows\System\" to the folder
|>>|>that contains IE6 (IEXPLORE.EXE), which likely is "C:\Program
|>>|>Files\Internet Explorer\". Then, move the IE5.5 versions of those
|>>|>DLL's into "C:Windows\System\". Doing it that way allows IE6 to
|>>|>use its .dll's-- but Explorer & all else (if anything) will use
|>>|>the IE5.5 .dll's.
|>>|
|>>| I can't understand why, but after doing this, my Explorer settings
|>>| reverted to View as Web Page and with Large Icons. My previous
|>>| settings were to not View as Web Page and to show Details. I would
|>>| have thought these settings were stored in the registry.
|>>
|>>I don't recall that happening when I tested it a while ago. As long
|>>as you could easily get the settings back to normal, it probably
|>>isn't worth an intensive investigation; otherwise, I'd mess with
|>>those settings while tracking with InCtrl5 to see what happens.
|>
|>I recovered my old settings without too much hassle.
|>
|>>The menu in
|>>Explorer could end up looking a tad different is the only anomaly I
|>>recall. I trust the main issue was solved for you & there was no
|>>detectable serious side effect (or you'd have said so & possibly have
|>>assasinated me or Bill of Co. &/or Chauvin). I should mention this
|>>switch of files should only be done after all updates at Windows
|>>Update have been taken; otherwise, the LC &/or UI file could get
|>>replaced again.
|>
|>I copied and deleted several GB of files without the dreaded slowdown,
|>so your fix appears to have worked. Thanks.
|>
|>- Franc Zabkar
|
| I just thought of something. What if someone installs a different
| program as a file manager. Will the computer still freeze after a
| major copy or delete? I just downloaded an old file manager called
| Servant Salamander (freeware) from http://vorvan.sh.cvut.cz/salamander
| I just installed it, but I kind of like it so far. I guess I can only
| give this a try on my screwed up copy of win98, and see what happens.

3rd-party products have a chance to circumvent the problem. I know that
HDValet can do the deletes just fine-- so long as the option to use the
Recycle Bin is not used...!...

http://www.pcmag.com/ 's HDValet is configurable & installs with
pre-configured suggestions. It can delete to the Recycle Bin, to a
holding folder of its own or to oblivion. By design, it will not
delete empty folders, after the files are gone. Also, it will not delete
files that are "in use". It isn't pre-configured to delete its own log
& doesn't over-write it; so, occasionally, do go in and trim it.


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Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
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