Deleting Files causes Freezup

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Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

letterman@invalid.com wrote:
| On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:24:31 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:
|
|>Rick Chauvin wrote:
|>| "Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message
|>| news:39cgc4hjrfc32gqf68srm3aunbmb7amqp8@4ax.com
|>|> On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 19:59:37 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> put
|>|> finger to keyboard and composed:
|>|>
|>|>>IE6, for some, has a problem with Copy/Delete of very large files
|>|>>or folders full of folders & files. Here is the fix others have
|>|>>discovered for that. Basically, move the IE6 versions of
|>|>>BrowseLC.dll & BrowseUI.dll from "C:Windows\System\" to the folder
|>|>>that contains IE6 (IEXPLORE.EXE), which likely is "C:\Program
|>|>>Files\Internet Explorer\". Then, move the IE5.5 versions of those
|>|>>DLL's into "C:Windows\System\". Doing it that way allows IE6 to use
|>|>>its .dll's-- but Explorer & all else (if anything) will use the
|>|>>IE5.5 .dll's.
|>|>
|>|> I can't understand why, but after doing this, my Explorer settings
|>|> reverted to View as Web Page and with Large Icons. My previous
|>|> settings were to not View as Web Page and to show Details. I would
|>|> have thought these settings were stored in the registry.
|>|
|>| It will most times revert to View as Web Page, etc, like that when
|>| you change those dll's around.
|>|
|>| Anyway, I think the OP (letterman) got his situation solved?
|>| ..allbeit the long way around.
|>|
|>| I did have a write up about this a while ago, and even give the
|>| dll's needed; as Glen said though, this is old stuff and talked
|>| about more times than we wanted to remember. I never bothered to
|>| take the webpage down though so it's still active.
|>|
|>| http://rdchauvin.com/W98xIE6xBug.htm
|>
|>It's only 7:19 PM, Chauvin-- your post shows 7:48!
|>
|>For the others reading: IIRC, to run the IE Repair tool or an
|>over-install of IE, one must switch those .dll's back first.
|>
|>| Rick
|
| Yes, I believe that is true. I'd just keep a copy of the replacement
| DLLs in a separate folder and copy them back. Better yet, ZIP them.
|
| I wont have that problem, I am not going to reinstall IE6. IE5.5 is
| fine, since I rarely ever use IE anyhow.

The use of IE5.5 may give up certain protections & improvements of IE6,
but IE6 isn't getting any new ones, anyhow.

Yes, one should keep the two .dll's handy for a switch back to get a new
Windows Update or to run the IE Repair Tool. Chauvin actually wrote an
app to do that & also should be thanked for that info. But MS has
stopped providing updates to IE6 for Win98. Also, it is exceedingly rare
one need to run the IE Repair tool (or that it would fix anything if
run, even).


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Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

Rick Chauvin wrote:
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:uKyylx5EJHA.5224@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
| [....]
|
|> It's only 7:19 PM, Chauvin-- your post shows 7:48!
|
| ? My computer tray clock is showing me it's within seconds of my
| Atomic Clock on the wall, so I'm not sure what you're seeing with
| those odd # minutes.

Well, I ran NisTime & stand by my observation!

| Although I've had glimpses on other forum posts on the past, that my
| ISP's server in some cases ends up posting a 1 hour difference
| depending on where I'm posting too; however when I post here and when
| the post shows up the time it says it's posted as is accurate to my
| clock.

Do you see 7:48 PM for that post & 7:24 PM for my response to it? Are
you using the MS server to post & read the posts? The new season of
Heroes hasn't even begun-- so, I can't accuse you of time travel!

| Rick
|
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

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Should things get worse after this,
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Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup



"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:eR5LrzGFJHA.4304@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl
> Rick Chauvin wrote:
>| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
>| news:uKyylx5EJHA.5224@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
>| [....]
>|
>|> It's only 7:19 PM, Chauvin-- your post shows 7:48!
>|
>| ? My computer tray clock is showing me it's within seconds of my
>| Atomic Clock on the wall, so I'm not sure what you're seeing with
>| those odd # minutes.
>
> Well, I ran NisTime & stand by my observation!
>
>| Although I've had glimpses on other forum posts on the past, that my
>| ISP's server in some cases ends up posting a 1 hour difference
>| depending on where I'm posting too; however when I post here and when
>| the post shows up the time it says it's posted as is accurate to my
>| clock.
>
> Do you see 7:48 PM for that post & 7:24 PM for my response to it? Are
> you using the MS server to post & read the posts? The new season of


Yes I post directly to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, and when my
posts show up I can see the time stamp is current and accurate.

> Heroes hasn't even begun-- so, I can't accuse you of time travel!


Very soon though :)
The few series I indulge in are already auto set to record from last
seasons settings, I can see them showing up now on the to do list (using
DTV) and in 1080i HiDef as well.

Rick


>
>| Rick
>|
>|>
>|> --
>|> Thanks or Good Luck,
>|> There may be humor in this post, and,
>|> Naturally, you will not sue,
>|> Should things get worse after this,
>|> PCR
>|> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> Should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
 
Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:45:39 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:

>letterman@invalid.com wrote:
>| On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:16:38 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:
>|
>|>Glad to have been useful. But I don't know much more about it. And
>|>don't blame me if Terhune should show up & hit you over the head with
>|>a fat .dll for thinking of an over-install of Windows & the VCM!
>|
>| Be thankful. You can killfile him online. Could you imagine having
>| to live with that bitter rude grump............
>| I bet he spends his whole life reinstalling Windows.....
>
>That isn't his fault! He lives in an earthquake zone where windows break
>easily!


[ROTFL]
 
Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

letterman@invalid.com wrote:
| On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:45:39 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:
|
|>letterman@invalid.com wrote:
|>| On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:16:38 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net>
|>| wrote:
|>|
|>|>Glad to have been useful. But I don't know much more about it. And
|>|>don't blame me if Terhune should show up & hit you over the head
|>|>with a fat .dll for thinking of an over-install of Windows & the
|>|>VCM!
|>|
|>| Be thankful. You can killfile him online. Could you imagine having
|>| to live with that bitter rude grump............
|>| I bet he spends his whole life reinstalling Windows.....
|>
|>That isn't his fault! He lives in an earthquake zone where windows
|>break easily!
|
| [ROTFL]

Hmm... [ROTFL].


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Should things get worse after this,
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Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

Rick Chauvin wrote:
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:eR5LrzGFJHA.4304@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl
|> Rick Chauvin wrote:
|>| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|>| news:uKyylx5EJHA.5224@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl
|>| [....]
|>|
|>|> It's only 7:19 PM, Chauvin-- your post shows 7:48!
|>|
|>| ? My computer tray clock is showing me it's within seconds of my
|>| Atomic Clock on the wall, so I'm not sure what you're seeing with
|>| those odd # minutes.
|>
|> Well, I ran NisTime & stand by my observation!
|>
|>| Although I've had glimpses on other forum posts on the past, that my
|>| ISP's server in some cases ends up posting a 1 hour difference
|>| depending on where I'm posting too; however when I post here and
|>| when the post shows up the time it says it's posted as is accurate
|>| to my clock.
|>
|> Do you see 7:48 PM for that post & 7:24 PM for my response to it? Are
|> you using the MS server to post & read the posts? The new season of
|
| Yes I post directly to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion, and
| when my posts show up I can see the time stamp is current and
| accurate.

Very strange, then. Looking at the Properties of our posts, I see...

Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:48:30 -0500 << Yours
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:24:31 -0400 << My response

....But I am in...

(GMT-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)

....in Date/Time Properties. Maybe something is wrong on my end!?! I
guess I'll have to look over that zone change thing I did so long ago!
Can I have undone it somehow? Now I have to remember what that was all
about-- sheesh! Are you on a Win98? Does your Registry key look like
this...?...

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Time
Zones\Eastern]
"Display"="(GMT-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)"
"Dlt"="Eastern Daylight Time"
"Std"="Eastern Standard Time"
"MapID"="38,39"
"TZI"=hex:2c,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,c4,ff,ff,ff,00,00,0b,00,00,00,01,00,02
,00,00,\
00,00,00,00,00,00,00,03,00,00,00,02,00,02,00,00,00,00,00,00,00

I'm thinking my post's Properties could be showing -04:00 because we are
in the "daylight savings" period or visa versa. What do you think?

|> Heroes hasn't even begun-- so, I can't accuse you of time travel!
|
| Very soon though :)
| The few series I indulge in are already auto set to record from last
| seasons settings, I can see them showing up now on the to do list
| (using DTV) and in 1080i HiDef as well.

I have that too now. I was surprised I could pick up HDTV over the air
with my Vizio VW37L TV & a Philips Mant510 indoor antenna. And it's
working fine again after a spell of lost DTV channels!

| Rick
|
|
|>
|>| Rick
|>|
|>|>
|>|> --
|>|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|>|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|>|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|>|> Should things get worse after this,
|>|> PCR
|>|> pcrrcp@netzero.net
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
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Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

Just goes to show what a real idiot you are.

--
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MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

<letterman@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:2n2hc4t21n5rvhhvnjo65j2mgvdmr4cluq@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:16:38 -0400, "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:
>
>>Glad to have been useful. But I don't know much more about it. And don't
>>blame me if Terhune should show up & hit you over the head with a fat
>>.dll for thinking of an over-install of Windows & the VCM!

>
> Be thankful. You can killfile him online. Could you imagine having
> to live with that bitter rude grump............
> I bet he spends his whole life reinstalling Windows.....
 
Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

On Sep 19, 2:34 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:

> Just goes to show what a real idiot you are.


You been on vacation? Had to do a Google AGS to find you!

It's been kinda dull over in the Vista groups while you've been gone ;-
>
 
Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

Took a break for some medical treatment that couldn't be done in-house. Had
to travel to the other end of the River where the water tastes like blech! I
don't own a working laptop, and there you have it.

Might be a while getting back into full swing, but you never know when I
might decide it's show time, eh?(Wow! Some Canadian has taken over my
tongue!) Am I especially needed over there?

--
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MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Paul Montgomery" <i.m.nonnymous@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:98d3af60-5982-4284-97ac-c3656152dc22@b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 19, 2:34 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:

> Just goes to show what a real idiot you are.


You been on vacation? Had to do a Google AGS to find you!

It's been kinda dull over in the Vista groups while you've been gone ;-
>
 
Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

letterman@invalid.com wrote:

> Franc Zabkar wrote:
>
>> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:
>>
>>> IE6, for some, has a problem with Copy/Delete of very large files or
>>> folders full of folders & files. Here is the fix others have discovered
>>> for that. Basically, move the IE6 versions of BrowseLC.dll &
>>> BrowseUI.dll from "C:Windows\System\" to the folder that contains IE6
>>> (IEXPLORE.EXE), which likely is "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\".
>>> Then, move the IE5.5 versions of those DLL's into "C:Windows\System\".
>>> Doing it that way allows IE6 to use its .dll's-- but Explorer & all else
>>> (if anything) will use the IE5.5 .dll's.

>>
>>
>> I can't understand why, but after doing this, my Explorer settings
>> reverted to View as Web Page and with Large Icons. My previous
>> settings were to not View as Web Page and to show Details. I would
>> have thought these settings were stored in the registry.
>>

>
> This makes me wonder if ANYONE hasever used and enjoyed that "View as
> Web page" feature in Explorer? I hated it the first time I saw it,
> and still do. It reminds me of XP, and I find XP absolutely
> repulsive.
> I have never known one person that uses that View as Web Page setting.
> I wish it could be entirely removed.



Try this. (in both Win98xE and WinXP)

--------------------------- Cut Here ---------------------------
REGEDIT4

[HKey_Current_User\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoActiveDesktop"=hex:01,00,00,00
; There needs to be a blank line below this line

--------------------------- Cut Here ---------------------------

Should help when exchanging the DLL's mentioned above as well.


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Re: Deleting Files causes Freezup

Etal wrote:

> letterman@invalid.com wrote:
>
>> Franc Zabkar wrote:
>>
>>> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> IE6, for some, has a problem with Copy/Delete of very large files or
>>>> folders full of folders & files. Here is the fix others have discovered
>>>> for that. Basically, move the IE6 versions of BrowseLC.dll &
>>>> BrowseUI.dll from "C:Windows\System\" to the folder that contains IE6
>>>> (IEXPLORE.EXE), which likely is "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\".
>>>> Then, move the IE5.5 versions of those DLL's into "C:Windows\System\".
>>>> Doing it that way allows IE6 to use its .dll's-- but Explorer & all
>>>> else
>>>> (if anything) will use the IE5.5 .dll's.
>>>
>>>
>>> I can't understand why, but after doing this, my Explorer settings
>>> reverted to View as Web Page and with Large Icons. My previous
>>> settings were to not View as Web Page and to show Details. I would
>>> have thought these settings were stored in the registry.
>>>

>>
>> This makes me wonder if ANYONE hasever used and enjoyed that "View as
>> Web page" feature in Explorer? I hated it the first time I saw it,
>> and still do. It reminds me of XP, and I find XP absolutely
>> repulsive.
>> I have never known one person that uses that View as Web Page setting.
>> I wish it could be entirely removed.

>
>
> Try this. (in both Win98xE and WinXP)
>
> --------------------------- Cut Here ---------------------------
> REGEDIT4
>
> [HKey_Current_User\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
>
> "NoActiveDesktop"=hex:01,00,00,00
> ; There needs to be a blank line below this line
>
> --------------------------- Cut Here ---------------------------
>
> Should help when exchanging the DLL's mentioned above as well.
>


Oh, and of course i also do the following:

[Start] : [Run...] : Command : [Ok] :

RegSvr32.exe /u WebVw.dll

Acknowledge the dialog saying it worked.

Exit [Return]
.... to close the Command Window.

(Reboot)



( I'm suddenly unsure which one does what, i use both. )

( [WebVw.dll] can be re-registered, 'RegSvr32.exe WebVw.dll' if
need arise and the 'NoActiveDesktop' reg-entry can be deleted or
set to numerical 'Zero', if so desired. )


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