Windows Vista A correct "mojave" experiment for Vista

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Re: A correct "mojave" experiment for Vista

Im not a help desk support guy you moron liar!


That's YOUR dream job but they wanted people who actually knew what a
computer is!



"Frank" <aliasis@sheep-fukkin.babba> wrote in message
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> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>
>> "gerooky" <g@ish.com> wrote in message
>> news:48d7d84b@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>>
>>> "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find
>>> themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer
>>> exists."
>>> Eric Hoffer
>>>
>>>
>>> "iMav" <iMav.3g5g09@winvistaclub.com> wrote in message
>>> news:iMav.3g5g09@winvistaclub.com...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The last time I asked a thief whether he was thief he said he wasn't.
>>>> Mike told gerooky that you're trolling and he said he is not.
>>>> Interesting. Bash Vista all you like, as long as you are doing it on a
>>>> Vista centric forum. Cause if you were to analyze people who use Vista
>>>> come here. So your anti-Vista propaganda kinda makes no sense pretty
>>>> much like all your posts up until now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> iMav
>>>>
>>>> It's a Microsoft world kid, I am just living in it.
>>>> 'Being Manan' (http://beingmanan.com)
>>>> 'EverythigMS | Going Beyond Windows' (http://everythingms.com)
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> iMav's Profile: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/member.php?userid=35
>>>> View this thread: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22605
>>>>

>>
>>
>> Do you have any original material of your own, or do you live by the
>> quotes of others?
>>
>>

> He is nothing but a help desk google jockey!
 
Re: A correct "mojave" experiment for Vista

On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:46:58 -0500, Paul Montgomery
<i.m.nonnymous@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:58:29 +0300, "gerooky" <g@ish.com> wrote:
>
>>First of all lets get this straight.
>>I am not a troll.

>
>Technically - some of the time - you are correct.
>
>Troll: A troll is a user of a newsgroup, forum or message board that
>posts messages with the intent of inciting an argument or flame-war.
>
>Over time, the general usage of the term has rightfully come to
>include someone like yourself who has nothing better to do than hang
>around looking for someone to engage in argument and to flame.



Tell it to Frank, jackass.
 
Re: A correct "mojave" experiment for Vista

"gerooky" <g@ish.com> wrote in message
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> Sure, I have even made a trademark out of the following phrase
>
> "If you like Vista, you are stupid!" T. M.
>
> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
> news:uZjFUtNHJHA.3548@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> "gerooky" <g@ish.com> wrote in message
>> news:48d7d84b@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>>> "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find
>>> themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer
>>> exists."
>>> Eric Hoffer
>>>
>>>
>>> "iMav" <iMav.3g5g09@winvistaclub.com> wrote in message
>>> news:iMav.3g5g09@winvistaclub.com...
>>>>
>>>> The last time I asked a thief whether he was thief he said he wasn't.
>>>> Mike told gerooky that you're trolling and he said he is not.
>>>> Interesting. Bash Vista all you like, as long as you are doing it on a
>>>> Vista centric forum. Cause if you were to analyze people who use Vista
>>>> come here. So your anti-Vista propaganda kinda makes no sense pretty
>>>> much like all your posts up until now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> iMav
>>>>
>>>> It's a Microsoft world kid, I am just living in it.
>>>> 'Being Manan' (http://beingmanan.com)
>>>> 'EverythigMS | Going Beyond Windows' (http://everythingms.com)
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> iMav's Profile: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/member.php?userid=35
>>>> View this thread: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22605
>>>>

>>
>>
>> Do you have any original material of your own, or do you live by the
>> quotes of others?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mike Hall - MVP
>> How to construct a good post..
>> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
>> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
>> Mike's Window - My Blog..
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>>
>>
>>
>>



Stick with other peoples quotes.. They have more class than your own.. :-)


--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
 
Re: A correct "mojave" experiment for Vista

On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:53:57 +0300, "gerooky" <g@ish.com> wrote:

>Now I think I am doing lots of people good by making clear that vista is
>****.
>
>People will come here who are thinking about upgrading from XP to Vista...
>
>perhaps after reading my posts they will think about waiting until and if
>there is a better version of windows out.


You're suffering from delusions of grandeur. You should change
"gerooky" to "der kooky".
 
Re: A correct "mojave" experiment for Vista

On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:54:45 -0500, Ringmaster
<bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:41:46 -0500, Paul Montgomery
><i.m.nonnymous@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:42:57 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP"
>><mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote:
>>
>>>You change your name constantly to beat the kill files.
>>>
>>>You are a troll, and a fairly incompetent troll too if the problems which
>>>you claim to have can't be fixed.

>>
>>Nice summation! ;-)

>
>Typical MVP subterfuge. Deny Vista has problems. If that doesn't work,
>blame the end user. Just for variety toss in it's a driver issue once
>in awhile. Never ever under any circumstances ever hold Microsoft
>accountable for anything. That's the MVP way. After all, they depend
>on Microsoft for their free software. Most users couldn't be bought
>off so cheap. Some of us have principles.


Posted by:

"Ringmaster" <bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cPay9wPNbjzZquCj51Be0w.user.aioe.org

Who is also:

"TruthSquad@hope.com"
NNTP-Posting-Host: cPay9wPNbjzZquCj51Be0w.user.aioe.org

"Yanaire's Ass Kicker" <1234@noplace.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cPay9wPNbjzZquCj51Be0w.user.aioe.org

"Frank's Keeper" <SanDiego@zoo.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cPay9wPNbjzZquCj51Be0w.user.aioe.org
 
Re: Ringmaster, Frank's Ass Licker wrote:

Re: Ringmaster, Frank's Ass Licker wrote:

On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:50:55 -0700, Frank <aliasis@sheep-fukkin.babba>
wrote:

>gerooky wrote:
>> "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find
>> themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer
>> exists."
>> Eric Hoffer

>
>So explain why you're stuck in the XP zone, huh?



Posted by:

"Frank" <aliais@sheep-fukkin.babba>
NNTP-Posting-Host: DtV7RP+DpsLHQB2m7vfMFQ.user.aioe.org

Who is also:

"Frank" <frank@nopam.org> (and more with @no*.org)
NNTP-Posting-Host: DtV7RP+DpsLHQB2m7vfMFQ.user.aioe.org

"fb" <aliasis@sheep-fukkin.babba>
aBJHA.3204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>
NNTP-Posting-Host: DtV7RP+DpsLHQB2m7vfMFQ.user.aioe.org

"Frank" <frank@nospom.org>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cpe-76-175-60-147.socal.res.rr.com
 
Re: A correct "mojave" experiment for Vista

On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:31:10 -0500, Paul Montgomery
<i.m.nonnymous@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:54:45 -0500, Ringmaster
><bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:41:46 -0500, Paul Montgomery
>><i.m.nonnymous@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 07:42:57 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP"
>>><mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>You change your name constantly to beat the kill files.
>>>>
>>>>You are a troll, and a fairly incompetent troll too if the problems which
>>>>you claim to have can't be fixed.
>>>
>>>Nice summation! ;-)

>>
>>Typical MVP subterfuge. Deny Vista has problems. If that doesn't work,
>>blame the end user. Just for variety toss in it's a driver issue once
>>in awhile. Never ever under any circumstances ever hold Microsoft
>>accountable for anything. That's the MVP way. After all, they depend
>>on Microsoft for their free software. Most users couldn't be bought
>>off so cheap. Some of us have principles.

>
>Posted by:
>
>"Ringmaster" <bigtop@VistaGeneralCircus.net>
>NNTP-Posting-Host: cPay9wPNbjzZquCj51Be0w.user.aioe.org
>
>Who is also:
>
>"TruthSquad@hope.com"
>NNTP-Posting-Host: cPay9wPNbjzZquCj51Be0w.user.aioe.org
>
>"Yanaire's Ass Kicker" <1234@noplace.com>
>NNTP-Posting-Host: cPay9wPNbjzZquCj51Be0w.user.aioe.org
>
>"Frank's Keeper" <SanDiego@zoo.com>
>NNTP-Posting-Host: cPay9wPNbjzZquCj51Be0w.user.aioe.org


Wow, you can read a header. After you pat yourself on your back for
being as smart as a sixth year old, lets see if you can list all the
names Spanky de monkey and Yanaire post under. Deal?
 
Re: A correct "mojave" experiment for Vista

On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:46:10 -0500, TruthSquad@hope.com wrote:

>Wow, you can read a header. After you pat yourself on your back for
>being as smart as a sixth year old, lets see if you can list all the
>names Spanky de monkey and Yanaire post under. Deal?


Sure, I'll help you out since you aren't sure who is who...

I already posted the nicks that Yanaire uses.

Here's Spanky's:

"Spanky deMonkey, ESQ" <spanky@demonkey.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.131.63.182

"Ringmaster's Psychiatrist" <ring@nutcase.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.131.63.182

"Ringmaster" <ringmas...@nutcase.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.131.63.182

"Span Key The Monkey key" <Iam@idiot.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.131.63.182

<kevpan815@comcast.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.131.63.182

"Theory of Nothing" <Theory@nothing.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.131.63.182

"Adam Albright" <adam.@albright.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.131.63.182

"Conda Lisa Rice" <condal...@rice.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.131.63.182
 
Re: A correct "mojave" experiment for Vista

As long as I'm on a roll, I might refresh on this one:

Current nick: Paul Montgumdrop (he emulates me)

Others used in the past 3 months or so in Vista groups:

Anti on Chicken Little(s)
Chicken Little Albright
Dan S-illy aka Barney Phife
Doctor Bee
General Paul Montgomery
General Paul Montgomery1
General Paul Montgomery2
General Paul Montgomery3
General Paul Montgomery4
General Paul Montgomery5
General Paul Montgomery6
General Paul Montgomery7
Hunting for JackA$$
Junk Yard Dog
Kotex Queen Clear Windows
Mick Murphy
Montgumdrop
Mr. Arnold
Paul Montgomery
Paul Montgomery 9000
Pauly
Ringmonster
Sudden Impact
Tall Tales Albright
The Bee
The Big Ticket
The Hornet
Van Helsing the Albright Hunter
 
Re: A correct "mojave" experiment for Vista

"DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a.n.e.t> wrote in message
news:Xns9B211CDECF33Ethisnthatadelphianet@85.214.90.236...
> "D. Eth" <death@thedoor.nxt> wrote in news:gb6qmq$ntq$1@aioe.org:
>
>> "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a.n.e.t> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9B216DEAAA61thisnthatadelphianet@85.214.90.236...
>>> "D. Eth" <death@thedoor.nxt> wrote in news:gb6kt5$3oq$1@aioe.org:
>>>
>>>> "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a.n.e.t> wrote in message
>>>> news:Xns9B20EB701A683thisnthatadelphianet@85.214.90.236...
>>>>> "D.Eth" <death@thedoor.nxt> wrote in news:gb63ec$ee$1@aioe.org:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's not true at all. You can easily verify that for
>>>>>>> yourself.
>>>>>>> A PII-400 using a 8MB video card and 256MB will run XP just fine,
>>>>>>> and even play games that were current at the time such as quake.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not true ^
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I run XPsp2 on a PIII-600 with a 64MB Geforce400 and 384MB RAM and
>>>>>> it runs...but is real laggy. My son hated playing CS on that PC .
>>>>>> And god help you if you do an AV scan ... useless PC for 20
>>>>>> minutes. And that setup is with ~ 12 running processes and using
>>>>>> ~70MB ram post boot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not true based on my opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have NEVER seen an XP machine running with 12 processes and only
>>>>> 70 megs of RAM directly after boot unless in safe mode....even then
>>>>> the 70 megs RAM
>>>>> is really pushing it. And a full AV scan on that would take way
>>>>> more than 20 minutes...more like 2 hours.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is totally BS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I put an ~ for approx.
>>>>
>>>> I just booted in....16 processes right after boot, 15 once the
>>>> winupdate goes away.
>>>> perhaps you don't know how to disable services.
>>>
>>> Uh, yeah. That's the first thing I do when I install Window for
>>> anyone.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 82 MB used mem right after boot ... once again, you maybe can't
>>>> tweak an XP system.
>>>>
>>>> A full AV scan on that PC takes 20 minutes monkey boy...its only a
>>>> 20GB HD.
>>>>
>>>> But, ya , idiot...you know my PC's better than me.
>>>
>>> Why are you calling me monkeyboy and idiot ? Because you
>>> underestimated the processes running by ~25% and the RAM usage by
>>> ~18%. Even 16 processes is FAR away from 12.
>>>

>>
>> No...you said it was BS...it wasn't BS...it was an estimate.
>> I wasn't staring at the PC.
>> And my 15 is including taskmgr...so once I close that ...it's 14....my
>> "guess was 12"
>> My mem usage of 82 included 4 for taskmgr....so 78...my guess was 70.
>>
>> See how close that is ( without you trying to make it exaggerated by
>> turning it into a %).
>>
>> And taken into the context of the conversation...

>
> The context had nothing to do with it. My reply was based on your
> statements alone. FWIW, I don't think XP can run 'fine' on any PII
> system. I've got Server2003 running on an Intel-based dual P3 450 mHz
> system with 512Megs and a SCSI II HD, and no MS services running, like
> AD, web server, or anything, it's mostly just a file server and runs a
> dynamic IP updater...and it can barely do that.
>
>> it was about a poster
>> saying XP ran fine on a PII and 256M ram...if my tweaked down system
>> can barely run on a PIII 384M system...yet you chose to say MY
>> statement was BS.
>>
>> So if you cull out my post...call it BS (I got no reason to BS, unlike
>> the anti-Vista morons) ... then I don't mind coming right back at ya.
>> Can't take it ?
>>
>> Don't respond.

>
> I've got no problem with you 'coming back', and saying you just booted it
> up and this is what you saw...blah, blah, blah. If you've got opposing
> info say it. Fine. I can take it.
>
> But, I do take exception to being insulted...what were they....'perhaps
> you don't know how to disable services','monkey boy','idiot', and 'Better
> stick to flippen burgers'.......just because I don't believe something
> someone says.
>
> FWIW, my XPsp2 runs on a 1 Ghz Athlon w/512M RAM and the same video card
> as yours, and it runs fairly well. I don't play any games, so I'm sure it
> lacks in that. Well, newer games ,Unreal Tournament is installed an runs
> adequately, but not up to Crysis requirements obviously.
>



Yeah...I shouldn't have insulted you .... but I'd been wrestling with trolls
all day !
I apologise...and will try not to insult you again.

Can't say I definitely won't .

A Bills Fan ?
Didn't know the Bills still had fans since OJ left...lol

--
Ens causa sui
Fit caedes omnibus locis
 
Re: A correct "mojave" experiment for Vista

"D. Eth" <death@thedoor.nxt> wrote in news:gb92nd$cgj$1@aioe.org:

> A Bills Fan ?
> Didn't know the Bills still had fans since OJ left...lol


Actually, I just remembered a little tidbit which I found interesting.....

'Ralph Wilson Stadium', where the Bills play, has a capacity of a tad under
74K.

Of those 74K seats, 56K are held by season ticket holders.
 
Re: A correct "mojave" experiment for Vista

I have better ideas in the past... :-) And I hope I will have better ones in
the future.

now take a look at this article... its talking about many of the points im
trying to make...

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-10047704-17.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20

Windows Vista has been a tragedy on many levels for Microsoft. First, it was
marked with compatibility issues and annoyances with its User Access Control
feature that started a firestorm of epic proportions. But once those issues
improved, Microsoft ran into an even bigger issue: it wasn't able to satisfy
vendors, nor was it able to satisfy the geeks.

And that's where the biggest issue with Vista really is. The technology
space is looked at by many in the mainstream as a higher-level industry that
simply can't be understood by the average person. Software? Hardware? Huh?

Because of that, it's the geek that filters opinions and creates a
trickle-down effect in the space. Let's face it--if you don't know what
you're talking about and you know that your friend does, wouldn't you take
their word for it at the least or verify what they're saying at the very
most?

And when you verify what they're saying, you'll probably end up researching
the topic by going to the countless blog posts and articles by experts in
the field to decide if your friend is correct, right?

And what do you find there? A slew of stories written by geeks, for geeks.
And throughout the past year, those stories written by geeks for geeks were
littered with criticisms of Vista and countless reasons why the company made
mistakes. Sure, there were some sites that came to its defense, but the vast
majority of journalists took the opportunity to beat up on the OS.

So how did it get to the point where the Mojave Experiment became necessary?
How did it get to the point where Microsoft was forced to concede that it
was losing the PR game and it needed to tell the world about it?

You can blame it on the geeks and the trickle-down effect that makes the
technology industry such a unique space.

Technology's trickle-down effect is simple: a tech company screws up a
product in ways that the tech-savvy crowd will notice, but the mainstream
crowd won't. Once that happens, geeks start railing on the product and
discuss why it's so bad. Eventually, they start complaining to their family
and friends, who don't know much about it and the distaste for products
starts entering the mainstream. Once that happens, those people will start
talking to others and soon it becomes viral.

And that's exactly why Microsoft can't make the same mistake it made with
Vista. That operating system didn't appeal to the geeks and they spent the
past year telling the world about it. Once that happened, the world started
believing it (regardless of whether or not it was true) and Microsoft has
paid the price.

So what does it need to do with Windows 7? Make sure the geeks love it.

But making sure the geeks love it will be difficult. Microsoft isn't one of
the most well-liked companies in the space and any chance to beat up on the
company will make even the most objective geek happy.

Realizing that, Microsoft can't expect to quiet every critic, but it needs
to be more proactive in ensuring that more geeks will be happy. First off,
it needs to ensure that the geeks' desires are met as effectively as
possible: the geeks want better security, more customization, and full
compatibility. Secondly, it has to play the right PR game: make Windows 7
about the desires of the tech-savvy crowd and stop pretending like that
crowd doesn't matter.

The one thing I don't understand about Microsoft and countless other
companies in the technology industry is why they don't realize that the
influential people are not the average John and Jane Doe. Instead, the
technology industry is dominated by a select few who tell their friends and
family why a certain product or service is useless.

And that's exactly why I don't like what I'm hearing already about Windows
7. Microsoft isn't doing enough to appeal to the geeks and it's instead
tying its success to the mainstream. From a business standpoint that may
make sense--the majority of people are in the mainstream--but from a
strategical perspective, the company has it all wrong.

Microsoft needs to start leaking information that discusses some of the
features that would make the tech-savvy crowd go wild. It doesn't have to be
anything special, just enough to start building some hype. After that, it
needs to give the niche press unprecedented access to Windows 7 and create a
product that appeals to them. And simply by embracing the niche press,
Microsoft can start rebuilding its image in that space.

The technology industry is unique because it's segmented by a perceived
knowledge barrier. Because of that, a select few are looked at as the source
for knowledge and thus, provide the general public with the opinions they
should be formulating. Apple has realized that--just look at the press
coverage--but Microsoft failed to do so with Vista and now needs to repair
its image before Windows 7 throws the company into disaster mode.

Playing nicely with the mainstream means nothing in this industry unless the
niche is happy. And if Microsoft wants Windows 7 to be a success, it better
create a product that appeals to that niche and start playing nice with it.
If it doesn't, look for Microsoft's PR troubles to continue indefinitely.
"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
news:e9QDMdOHJHA.1676@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "gerooky" <g@ish.com> wrote in message
> news:48d7ea1f$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>> Sure, I have even made a trademark out of the following phrase
>>
>> "If you like Vista, you are stupid!" T. M.
>>
>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
>> news:uZjFUtNHJHA.3548@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> "gerooky" <g@ish.com> wrote in message
>>> news:48d7d84b@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>>>> "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find
>>>> themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer
>>>> exists."
>>>> Eric Hoffer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "iMav" <iMav.3g5g09@winvistaclub.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:iMav.3g5g09@winvistaclub.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> The last time I asked a thief whether he was thief he said he wasn't.
>>>>> Mike told gerooky that you're trolling and he said he is not.
>>>>> Interesting. Bash Vista all you like, as long as you are doing it on a
>>>>> Vista centric forum. Cause if you were to analyze people who use Vista
>>>>> come here. So your anti-Vista propaganda kinda makes no sense pretty
>>>>> much like all your posts up until now.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> iMav
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a Microsoft world kid, I am just living in it.
>>>>> 'Being Manan' (http://beingmanan.com)
>>>>> 'EverythigMS | Going Beyond Windows' (http://everythingms.com)
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> iMav's Profile: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/member.php?userid=35
>>>>> View this thread: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22605
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you have any original material of your own, or do you live by the
>>> quotes of others?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mike Hall - MVP
>>> How to construct a good post..
>>> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
>>> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
>>> Mike's Window - My Blog..
>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>
>
> Stick with other peoples quotes.. They have more class than your own.. :-)
>
>
> --
> Mike Hall - MVP
> How to construct a good post..
> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
> Mike's Window - My Blog..
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>
>
>
>
 
Re: A correct "mojave" experiment for Vista

Ken, please read this article, it illustrates many of the points I make in a
very clear way

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-10047704-17.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20

Windows Vista has been a tragedy on many levels for Microsoft. First, it was
marked with compatibility issues and annoyances with its User Access Control
feature that started a firestorm of epic proportions. But once those issues
improved, Microsoft ran into an even bigger issue: it wasn't able to satisfy
vendors, nor was it able to satisfy the geeks.

And that's where the biggest issue with Vista really is. The technology
space is looked at by many in the mainstream as a higher-level industry that
simply can't be understood by the average person. Software? Hardware? Huh?

Because of that, it's the geek that filters opinions and creates a
trickle-down effect in the space. Let's face it--if you don't know what
you're talking about and you know that your friend does, wouldn't you take
their word for it at the least or verify what they're saying at the very
most?

And when you verify what they're saying, you'll probably end up researching
the topic by going to the countless blog posts and articles by experts in
the field to decide if your friend is correct, right?

And what do you find there? A slew of stories written by geeks, for geeks.
And throughout the past year, those stories written by geeks for geeks were
littered with criticisms of Vista and countless reasons why the company made
mistakes. Sure, there were some sites that came to its defense, but the vast
majority of journalists took the opportunity to beat up on the OS.

So how did it get to the point where the Mojave Experiment became necessary?
How did it get to the point where Microsoft was forced to concede that it
was losing the PR game and it needed to tell the world about it?

You can blame it on the geeks and the trickle-down effect that makes the
technology industry such a unique space.

Technology's trickle-down effect is simple: a tech company screws up a
product in ways that the tech-savvy crowd will notice, but the mainstream
crowd won't. Once that happens, geeks start railing on the product and
discuss why it's so bad. Eventually, they start complaining to their family
and friends, who don't know much about it and the distaste for products
starts entering the mainstream. Once that happens, those people will start
talking to others and soon it becomes viral.

And that's exactly why Microsoft can't make the same mistake it made with
Vista. That operating system didn't appeal to the geeks and they spent the
past year telling the world about it. Once that happened, the world started
believing it (regardless of whether or not it was true) and Microsoft has
paid the price.

So what does it need to do with Windows 7? Make sure the geeks love it.

But making sure the geeks love it will be difficult. Microsoft isn't one of
the most well-liked companies in the space and any chance to beat up on the
company will make even the most objective geek happy.

Realizing that, Microsoft can't expect to quiet every critic, but it needs
to be more proactive in ensuring that more geeks will be happy. First off,
it needs to ensure that the geeks' desires are met as effectively as
possible: the geeks want better security, more customization, and full
compatibility. Secondly, it has to play the right PR game: make Windows 7
about the desires of the tech-savvy crowd and stop pretending like that
crowd doesn't matter.

The one thing I don't understand about Microsoft and countless other
companies in the technology industry is why they don't realize that the
influential people are not the average John and Jane Doe. Instead, the
technology industry is dominated by a select few who tell their friends and
family why a certain product or service is useless.

And that's exactly why I don't like what I'm hearing already about Windows
7. Microsoft isn't doing enough to appeal to the geeks and it's instead
tying its success to the mainstream. From a business standpoint that may
make sense--the majority of people are in the mainstream--but from a
strategical perspective, the company has it all wrong.

Microsoft needs to start leaking information that discusses some of the
features that would make the tech-savvy crowd go wild. It doesn't have to be
anything special, just enough to start building some hype. After that, it
needs to give the niche press unprecedented access to Windows 7 and create a
product that appeals to them. And simply by embracing the niche press,
Microsoft can start rebuilding its image in that space.

The technology industry is unique because it's segmented by a perceived
knowledge barrier. Because of that, a select few are looked at as the source
for knowledge and thus, provide the general public with the opinions they
should be formulating. Apple has realized that--just look at the press
coverage--but Microsoft failed to do so with Vista and now needs to repair
its image before Windows 7 throws the company into disaster mode.

Playing nicely with the mainstream means nothing in this industry unless the
niche is happy. And if Microsoft wants Windows 7 to be a success, it better
create a product that appeals to that niche and start playing nice with it.
If it doesn't, look for Microsoft's PR troubles to continue indefinitely.

"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:58mfd4pnbcqv7s2lolhom0vagttc36sci0@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:02:49 +0300, "gerooky" <g@ish.com> wrote:
>
>> >That is exactly what *does* make you a troll.

>>
>> No this newsgroup does not say vista.fanboy.only

>
>
> As I said, this is a general Vista *support* newsgroup. It has nothing
> to do with being a fanboy. Being a fanboy is not required.
>
>
>> It says vista.general
>>
>> I can bash vista all I like, because vista is stupid

>
>
> You are certainly entitled to that view, even though it's the opposite
> of mine. I really don't care what your view is. But when you express
> that view in a Vista support newsgroup, you are clearly trolling. As
> an obvious troll, you are almost certainly killfiled by many people
> here, and if you continue doing it, you will quickly find yourself in
> the killfiles of many others here, including me.
>
>
>
>> I am not off topic as long as I am insulting vista.
>>
>> Im not talking about politics or sports or music. Im talking about vista.
>>
>> If you want a fanboy newsgroup make a moderated forum.. ok?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
>> news:fpcfd4tg6vs1fuhaj9n8rmaobucjeeote3@4ax.com...
>> >
>> > On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:58:29 +0300, "gerooky" <g@ish.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> First of all lets get this straight.
>> >> I am not a troll.
>> >>
>> >> Just because I continuislly bash vista doesn't make me a troll. It
>> >> makes
>> >> me
>> >> a person with a very valid opinon.
>> >> If you don't think its valid.. ok.. good for you, but that doesn't
>> >> make
>> >> me a
>> >> troll.
>> >
>> >
>> > That is exactly what *does* make you a troll.
>> >
>> > This is a newsgroup for a single purpose: helping people with general
>> > Windows Vista problems.
>> >
>> > If you are asking for help or providing it to those who ask, you are
>> > on topic and not trolling.
>> >
>> > If you are continually bashing Vista, you are off-topic and clearly
>> > trolling. Whether your opinion or right is wrong doesn't matter; it's
>> > off-topic, therefore trolling, and doesn't belong here.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
Re: A correct "mojave" experiment for Vista

Although I must point out that there is an opposite trickle effect.

I try to remain positive about vista, but almost EVERY simple non geek user
that has vista keeps asking me why its so bad/slow/incompatible

Its true!




"gerooky" <g@ish.com> wrote in message
news:48d81b03@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> I have better ideas in the past... :-) And I hope I will have better ones
> in the future.
>
> now take a look at this article... its talking about many of the points im
> trying to make...
>
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-10047704-17.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20
>
> Windows Vista has been a tragedy on many levels for Microsoft. First, it
> was
> marked with compatibility issues and annoyances with its User Access
> Control
> feature that started a firestorm of epic proportions. But once those
> issues
> improved, Microsoft ran into an even bigger issue: it wasn't able to
> satisfy
> vendors, nor was it able to satisfy the geeks.
>
> And that's where the biggest issue with Vista really is. The technology
> space is looked at by many in the mainstream as a higher-level industry
> that
> simply can't be understood by the average person. Software? Hardware? Huh?
>
> Because of that, it's the geek that filters opinions and creates a
> trickle-down effect in the space. Let's face it--if you don't know what
> you're talking about and you know that your friend does, wouldn't you take
> their word for it at the least or verify what they're saying at the very
> most?
>
> And when you verify what they're saying, you'll probably end up
> researching
> the topic by going to the countless blog posts and articles by experts in
> the field to decide if your friend is correct, right?
>
> And what do you find there? A slew of stories written by geeks, for geeks.
> And throughout the past year, those stories written by geeks for geeks
> were
> littered with criticisms of Vista and countless reasons why the company
> made
> mistakes. Sure, there were some sites that came to its defense, but the
> vast
> majority of journalists took the opportunity to beat up on the OS.
>
> So how did it get to the point where the Mojave Experiment became
> necessary?
> How did it get to the point where Microsoft was forced to concede that it
> was losing the PR game and it needed to tell the world about it?
>
> You can blame it on the geeks and the trickle-down effect that makes the
> technology industry such a unique space.
>
> Technology's trickle-down effect is simple: a tech company screws up a
> product in ways that the tech-savvy crowd will notice, but the mainstream
> crowd won't. Once that happens, geeks start railing on the product and
> discuss why it's so bad. Eventually, they start complaining to their
> family
> and friends, who don't know much about it and the distaste for products
> starts entering the mainstream. Once that happens, those people will start
> talking to others and soon it becomes viral.
>
> And that's exactly why Microsoft can't make the same mistake it made with
> Vista. That operating system didn't appeal to the geeks and they spent the
> past year telling the world about it. Once that happened, the world
> started
> believing it (regardless of whether or not it was true) and Microsoft has
> paid the price.
>
> So what does it need to do with Windows 7? Make sure the geeks love it.
>
> But making sure the geeks love it will be difficult. Microsoft isn't one
> of
> the most well-liked companies in the space and any chance to beat up on
> the
> company will make even the most objective geek happy.
>
> Realizing that, Microsoft can't expect to quiet every critic, but it needs
> to be more proactive in ensuring that more geeks will be happy. First off,
> it needs to ensure that the geeks' desires are met as effectively as
> possible: the geeks want better security, more customization, and full
> compatibility. Secondly, it has to play the right PR game: make Windows 7
> about the desires of the tech-savvy crowd and stop pretending like that
> crowd doesn't matter.
>
> The one thing I don't understand about Microsoft and countless other
> companies in the technology industry is why they don't realize that the
> influential people are not the average John and Jane Doe. Instead, the
> technology industry is dominated by a select few who tell their friends
> and
> family why a certain product or service is useless.
>
> And that's exactly why I don't like what I'm hearing already about Windows
> 7. Microsoft isn't doing enough to appeal to the geeks and it's instead
> tying its success to the mainstream. From a business standpoint that may
> make sense--the majority of people are in the mainstream--but from a
> strategical perspective, the company has it all wrong.
>
> Microsoft needs to start leaking information that discusses some of the
> features that would make the tech-savvy crowd go wild. It doesn't have to
> be
> anything special, just enough to start building some hype. After that, it
> needs to give the niche press unprecedented access to Windows 7 and create
> a
> product that appeals to them. And simply by embracing the niche press,
> Microsoft can start rebuilding its image in that space.
>
> The technology industry is unique because it's segmented by a perceived
> knowledge barrier. Because of that, a select few are looked at as the
> source
> for knowledge and thus, provide the general public with the opinions they
> should be formulating. Apple has realized that--just look at the press
> coverage--but Microsoft failed to do so with Vista and now needs to repair
> its image before Windows 7 throws the company into disaster mode.
>
> Playing nicely with the mainstream means nothing in this industry unless
> the
> niche is happy. And if Microsoft wants Windows 7 to be a success, it
> better
> create a product that appeals to that niche and start playing nice with
> it.
> If it doesn't, look for Microsoft's PR troubles to continue indefinitely.
> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
> news:e9QDMdOHJHA.1676@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> "gerooky" <g@ish.com> wrote in message
>> news:48d7ea1f$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>>> Sure, I have even made a trademark out of the following phrase
>>>
>>> "If you like Vista, you are stupid!" T. M.
>>>
>>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uZjFUtNHJHA.3548@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> "gerooky" <g@ish.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:48d7d84b@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>>>>> "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned
>>>>> find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no
>>>>> longer exists."
>>>>> Eric Hoffer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "iMav" <iMav.3g5g09@winvistaclub.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:iMav.3g5g09@winvistaclub.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The last time I asked a thief whether he was thief he said he wasn't.
>>>>>> Mike told gerooky that you're trolling and he said he is not.
>>>>>> Interesting. Bash Vista all you like, as long as you are doing it on
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> Vista centric forum. Cause if you were to analyze people who use
>>>>>> Vista
>>>>>> come here. So your anti-Vista propaganda kinda makes no sense pretty
>>>>>> much like all your posts up until now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> iMav
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a Microsoft world kid, I am just living in it.
>>>>>> 'Being Manan' (http://beingmanan.com)
>>>>>> 'EverythigMS | Going Beyond Windows' (http://everythingms.com)
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> iMav's Profile: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/member.php?userid=35
>>>>>> View this thread:
>>>>>> http://winvistaclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22605
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you have any original material of your own, or do you live by the
>>>> quotes of others?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Mike Hall - MVP
>>>> How to construct a good post..
>>>> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
>>>> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
>>>> Mike's Window - My Blog..
>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

>>
>>
>> Stick with other peoples quotes.. They have more class than your own..
>> :-)
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mike Hall - MVP
>> How to construct a good post..
>> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
>> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
>> Mike's Window - My Blog..
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>>
>>
>>
>>
 
Re: A correct "mojave" experiment for Vista

On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:32:46 +0300, gerooky wrote:

> Although I must point out that there is an opposite trickle effect.
>
> I try to remain positive about vista, but almost EVERY simple non geek
> user that has vista keeps asking me why its so bad/slow/incompatible
>
> Its true!
>


Why the hell are they asking you ?

You must be the MOST irritating mudder - fusker walking the planet.
Most people would knock your teeth out before they'd listen to you ramble.

--
Ens causa sui
Fit caedes omnibus locis
 
Re: A correct "mojave" experiment for Vista

You are not the most positive person I have seen in this newsgroup either.

:-) And you have such a charming nick... Deth... wow.. so optimistic! lol



"D.Eth" <death@thedoor.nxt> wrote in message news:gb97kt$v5k$1@aioe.org...
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:32:46 +0300, gerooky wrote:
>
>> Although I must point out that there is an opposite trickle effect.
>>
>> I try to remain positive about vista, but almost EVERY simple non geek
>> user that has vista keeps asking me why its so bad/slow/incompatible
>>
>> Its true!
>>

>
> Why the hell are they asking you ?
>
> You must be the MOST irritating mudder - fusker walking the planet.
> Most people would knock your teeth out before they'd listen to you ramble.
>
> --
> Ens causa sui
> Fit caedes omnibus locis
 
Re: A correct "mojave" experiment for Vista

"gerooky" <g@ish.com> wrote in message
news:48d81d21$2@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> Although I must point out that there is an opposite trickle effect.
>
> I try to remain positive about vista, but almost EVERY simple non geek
> user that has vista keeps asking me why its so bad/slow/incompatible
>
> Its true!
>
>
>
>
> "gerooky" <g@ish.com> wrote in message
> news:48d81b03@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>> I have better ideas in the past... :-) And I hope I will have better ones
>> in the future.
>>
>> now take a look at this article... its talking about many of the points
>> im trying to make...
>>
>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-10047704-17.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20
>>
>> Windows Vista has been a tragedy on many levels for Microsoft. First, it
>> was
>> marked with compatibility issues and annoyances with its User Access
>> Control
>> feature that started a firestorm of epic proportions. But once those
>> issues
>> improved, Microsoft ran into an even bigger issue: it wasn't able to
>> satisfy
>> vendors, nor was it able to satisfy the geeks.
>>
>> And that's where the biggest issue with Vista really is. The technology
>> space is looked at by many in the mainstream as a higher-level industry
>> that
>> simply can't be understood by the average person. Software? Hardware?
>> Huh?
>>
>> Because of that, it's the geek that filters opinions and creates a
>> trickle-down effect in the space. Let's face it--if you don't know what
>> you're talking about and you know that your friend does, wouldn't you
>> take
>> their word for it at the least or verify what they're saying at the very
>> most?
>>
>> And when you verify what they're saying, you'll probably end up
>> researching
>> the topic by going to the countless blog posts and articles by experts in
>> the field to decide if your friend is correct, right?
>>
>> And what do you find there? A slew of stories written by geeks, for
>> geeks.
>> And throughout the past year, those stories written by geeks for geeks
>> were
>> littered with criticisms of Vista and countless reasons why the company
>> made
>> mistakes. Sure, there were some sites that came to its defense, but the
>> vast
>> majority of journalists took the opportunity to beat up on the OS.
>>
>> So how did it get to the point where the Mojave Experiment became
>> necessary?
>> How did it get to the point where Microsoft was forced to concede that it
>> was losing the PR game and it needed to tell the world about it?
>>
>> You can blame it on the geeks and the trickle-down effect that makes the
>> technology industry such a unique space.
>>
>> Technology's trickle-down effect is simple: a tech company screws up a
>> product in ways that the tech-savvy crowd will notice, but the mainstream
>> crowd won't. Once that happens, geeks start railing on the product and
>> discuss why it's so bad. Eventually, they start complaining to their
>> family
>> and friends, who don't know much about it and the distaste for products
>> starts entering the mainstream. Once that happens, those people will
>> start
>> talking to others and soon it becomes viral.
>>
>> And that's exactly why Microsoft can't make the same mistake it made with
>> Vista. That operating system didn't appeal to the geeks and they spent
>> the
>> past year telling the world about it. Once that happened, the world
>> started
>> believing it (regardless of whether or not it was true) and Microsoft has
>> paid the price.
>>
>> So what does it need to do with Windows 7? Make sure the geeks love it.
>>
>> But making sure the geeks love it will be difficult. Microsoft isn't one
>> of
>> the most well-liked companies in the space and any chance to beat up on
>> the
>> company will make even the most objective geek happy.
>>
>> Realizing that, Microsoft can't expect to quiet every critic, but it
>> needs
>> to be more proactive in ensuring that more geeks will be happy. First
>> off,
>> it needs to ensure that the geeks' desires are met as effectively as
>> possible: the geeks want better security, more customization, and full
>> compatibility. Secondly, it has to play the right PR game: make Windows 7
>> about the desires of the tech-savvy crowd and stop pretending like that
>> crowd doesn't matter.
>>
>> The one thing I don't understand about Microsoft and countless other
>> companies in the technology industry is why they don't realize that the
>> influential people are not the average John and Jane Doe. Instead, the
>> technology industry is dominated by a select few who tell their friends
>> and
>> family why a certain product or service is useless.
>>
>> And that's exactly why I don't like what I'm hearing already about
>> Windows
>> 7. Microsoft isn't doing enough to appeal to the geeks and it's instead
>> tying its success to the mainstream. From a business standpoint that may
>> make sense--the majority of people are in the mainstream--but from a
>> strategical perspective, the company has it all wrong.
>>
>> Microsoft needs to start leaking information that discusses some of the
>> features that would make the tech-savvy crowd go wild. It doesn't have to
>> be
>> anything special, just enough to start building some hype. After that, it
>> needs to give the niche press unprecedented access to Windows 7 and
>> create a
>> product that appeals to them. And simply by embracing the niche press,
>> Microsoft can start rebuilding its image in that space.
>>
>> The technology industry is unique because it's segmented by a perceived
>> knowledge barrier. Because of that, a select few are looked at as the
>> source
>> for knowledge and thus, provide the general public with the opinions they
>> should be formulating. Apple has realized that--just look at the press
>> coverage--but Microsoft failed to do so with Vista and now needs to
>> repair
>> its image before Windows 7 throws the company into disaster mode.
>>
>> Playing nicely with the mainstream means nothing in this industry unless
>> the
>> niche is happy. And if Microsoft wants Windows 7 to be a success, it
>> better
>> create a product that appeals to that niche and start playing nice with
>> it.
>> If it doesn't, look for Microsoft's PR troubles to continue indefinitely.
>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
>> news:e9QDMdOHJHA.1676@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> "gerooky" <g@ish.com> wrote in message
>>> news:48d7ea1f$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>>>> Sure, I have even made a trademark out of the following phrase
>>>>
>>>> "If you like Vista, you are stupid!" T. M.
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:uZjFUtNHJHA.3548@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> "gerooky" <g@ish.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:48d7d84b@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>>>>>> "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned
>>>>>> find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no
>>>>>> longer exists."
>>>>>> Eric Hoffer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "iMav" <iMav.3g5g09@winvistaclub.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:iMav.3g5g09@winvistaclub.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The last time I asked a thief whether he was thief he said he
>>>>>>> wasn't.
>>>>>>> Mike told gerooky that you're trolling and he said he is not.
>>>>>>> Interesting. Bash Vista all you like, as long as you are doing it on
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> Vista centric forum. Cause if you were to analyze people who use
>>>>>>> Vista
>>>>>>> come here. So your anti-Vista propaganda kinda makes no sense pretty
>>>>>>> much like all your posts up until now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> iMav
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's a Microsoft world kid, I am just living in it.
>>>>>>> 'Being Manan' (http://beingmanan.com)
>>>>>>> 'EverythigMS | Going Beyond Windows' (http://everythingms.com)
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> iMav's Profile: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/member.php?userid=35
>>>>>>> View this thread:
>>>>>>> http://winvistaclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22605
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have any original material of your own, or do you live by the
>>>>> quotes of others?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP
>>>>> How to construct a good post..
>>>>> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
>>>>> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
>>>>> Mike's Window - My Blog..
>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Stick with other peoples quotes.. They have more class than your own..
>>> :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mike Hall - MVP
>>> How to construct a good post..
>>> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
>>> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
>>> Mike's Window - My Blog..
>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>



But it isn't bad, slow, incompatible anymore. Why not tell them that?


--
Mike Hall - MVP
How to construct a good post..
http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=newswhelp&style=toc
Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
 
Re: A correct "mojave" experiment for Vista

"gerooky" <g@ish.com> wrote in message
news:48d8247f$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> You are not the most positive person I have seen in this newsgroup either.
>
> :-) And you have such a charming nick... Deth... wow.. so optimistic! lol
>
>



I am a very positive person.
I just don't like morons that think they know what's best for others...and
using this NG as a platform for their idiotic rantings.

But you gotta do it here, because nowhere else do people listen to you.

Death is very optimistic.
Realist know it is a consequence of life.

It will come to you one day ( soon, hopefully)

>
> "D.Eth" <death@thedoor.nxt> wrote in message news:gb97kt$v5k$1@aioe.org...
>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:32:46 +0300, gerooky wrote:
>>
>>> Although I must point out that there is an opposite trickle effect.
>>>
>>> I try to remain positive about vista, but almost EVERY simple non geek
>>> user that has vista keeps asking me why its so bad/slow/incompatible
>>>
>>> Its true!
>>>

>>
>> Why the hell are they asking you ?
>>
>> You must be the MOST irritating mudder - fusker walking the planet.
>> Most people would knock your teeth out before they'd listen to you
>> ramble.
>>
>> --
>> Ens causa sui
>> Fit caedes omnibus locis

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Fit caedes omnibus locis
 
Re: Ringmaster, Frank's Ass Licker wrote:

Re: Ringmaster, Frank's Ass Licker wrote:

Frank wrote:

> someday you'll be
> talking to me while flat on your back and you won't even know who I am
> or what has just happened!...Hahahaha!


You keep saying that but so far you're all bark and no bite. Course, you
only threaten someone with your "#13's" when you've been brutally and
totally shown up as a complete fool and even you begin to realize it.
It's called a "knee-jerk reaction" that you do on instinct, not logic.

Got any more empty threats or have you run out of ideas again and we'll
be treated to your usual barrage of lies, insults, profanity, weird
sexual fantasies about your perceived enemies and a whole lot of bluster?

Alias
 
Re: A correct "mojave" experiment for Vista

On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:13:02 -0400, "Mike Hall - MVP"
<mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote:

[over 200 lines of quotes snipped]

>But it isn't bad, slow, incompatible anymore. Why not tell them that?


200 lines of quotes for ONE line of reply??

SHEESH!

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