Re: Cloning Win98FE prior to SE upgrade
"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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| The question that I ask is if you reveal all files in XP Professional
| does it really reveal all the files or still keep some secret.
Looks like Terhune's lips are loose enough now to reveal the full truth.
I'll leave it to him!
| I
| have heard with 98SE when you reveal all the files then it actually
| reveals them.
It isn't like XP! Nothing is irradiated! BUT... I have found this
Registry key in Win98, named "ShowSuperHidden"...
You know, this will allow one to see in Explorer all files that have
the Hidden attribute...
"START, Settings, Folder Options, View tab", & bolt "Show all
files"; may as well uncheck "Hide file extensions..." too.
To know whether a file has that attribute, R-Clk it in Explorer, &
select "Properties". Alternatively...
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Adv
anced
ShowAttribCol 0x00000001 (1) <<--DWORD. Value data: 1
ShowSuperHidden 0x00000001 (1) <<--DWORD: 1
PersistBrowsers 0x00000001 (1) <<--DWORD: 1
ShowAttribCol See Attributes listed in Explorer
ShowSuperHidden Well, I think I saw my first .htt after setting that.
PersistBrowsers An open folder will remain open after a reboot.
"ShowAttribCol" has no space in it's name, although it seems that way
with this font. (None of them do.) Type a "1" in "Value Data". It won't
look like a simple "1" in the right pane. If the column doesn't appear
immediately in Explorer, then re-boot.
1. "START button, Run"; Type "RegEdit" & Enter.
2. Click the plus (+) signs in the left pane starting at
"HKEY_CURRENT_USER" & ending at "Explorer".
3. Finally, click the key "Advanced" in the left pane.
4. In the right pane, R-Clk an empty area; point to "new"; select
"Dword value"; type or paste "ShowAttribCol" & Enter.
5. R-Clk "ShowAttribCol"; select "Modify", enter "1" in Value Data, &
click OK.
6. Do the other two, as desired, from step (4).
7. Close RegEdit & reboot, if it doesn't already show in Explorer.
| I still see 98SE and the 9x source code as being the
| superior source code in terms of compatibility and working with APS
| has shown me how APS still needs and uses old 98SE computers for all
| of their older software that has cost too much to get rid of.
Uhuh. Stick with it, until the day it crumbles to dust!
| Now if
| Microsoft would only listen to me and realize they made a mistake by
| elimating the 9x line then maybe things would be better.
Absolutely-- & some day we must storm the castle at Redmond or some
other secret, irradiated city! A few more bolts of XP-irradiation-- &
Terhune or Christianson may reveal where that is!
| I am now
| using Millenium at work and it is not terrible. It is stupid that
| Microsoft removed the easy access to MS-DOS from Millenium. In
| addition, some of the tabing issues and style issues of ME irritate
| me. I may just have to format the ME machine and install 98 Second
| Edition on it.
I hope Win98 drivers will exist for all the peripherials!
| I already have some valid and legal copies of 98
| Second Edition and could always buy more on Ebay if it becomes
| necessary. Heck, I think 98 SE still has some life in it left
| despite the fact that support was elimated by Microsoft on July 11,
| 2006.
It WILL live, until our fingers fall through mush or dust & break on a
solid, wooden desktop!
| 98SE is still a killer operating system in my opinion and the
| best operating system Microsoft has to offer.
Yea!
| XP Professional would
| be my second choice after 98SE with Microsoft operating systems.
I don't know. I have no opinion yet on what's 2nd best. Seems doubtful
it could be XP, though!
|
| "PCR" wrote:
|
|> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message
|> news:e0G$qTp4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
|> | 1. He probably doesn't want the added expense of another HDD. Then
|> | again, sounds like he could use one. Drives are cheap, but I'd want
|> | one that's fairly small to avoid possible problems with the mobo
|> | supporting large drives. Might be hard to find, and the issues of
|> | incompatibility can be EXTREMELY frustrating.
|>
|> Understood. Still, Teflon may as well face those issues now-- & not
|> wait for the day an HDD crash puts his head through the ceiling!
|>
|> | 2. Outside of using BING, he has no imaging app that will likely
|> | run on the 98 machine, whether it's run from Windows or run from a
|> | bootable CD.
|>
|> BING is good enough for it, then...
|>
|>
http://www.bootitng.com/ 's BootIt NG, has a variety of backup
|> capabilities & works with all OS: Copy partition(s) to HDD, or Image
|> to HDD or to CD or DVD. Create, move, shrink or expand partitions
|> without data loss. Multi-boot too. To install & use beyond 30 days,
|> $34.95.
|>
|> | My ideal solution would be another HD (one that's large enough to
|> | hold images of C: and D
and BING. Partition letters don't enter
|> | into the equation, since the machine never needs to be booted with
|> | the disk connected. But Teflon sounds like he has a decent plan,
|> | already.
|>
|> I guess his plan is a good one, except he'll need that 2nd HDD some
|> day anyhow. And there is the caveat you did bring up about booting
|> XP & the secret folders it may create.
|>
|> | --
|> | Gary S. Terhune
|> | MS-MVP Shell/User
|> |
www.grystmill.com
|> |
|> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
|> | news:%23AL0YGp4HHA.5852@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
|> |> "Teflon" <spambaitmeister@gmail.com> wrote in message
|> |> news:1187537643.175079.269170@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com
|> |> | On Aug 18, 9:56 pm, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
|> |> |> Same applies to Ghost (more so -- I doubt any recent version of
|> |> |> Ghost will run on Win98, period.) Maybe OP already has a legacy
|> |> |> copy. However, OP is using a newer XP machine to do the task.
|> |> |> If the imaging app needs to run on the Win98 machine, then I'd
|> |> |> recommend BootIt NG.
|> |> |
|> |> | Being referred to as OP always makes me think I'm Ron Howard on
|> |> | Mayberry RFD with Andy Griffith (don't I wish).
|> |> |
|> |> | Anyway, thanks for your input. I'm not going to try running
|> |> | Ghost or True Image on the 98FE machine. Since the machine only
|> |> | has a CD ROM drive, and I can't connect an external HDD or DVD
|> |> | burner to that machine, plus the partitioned internal HDD's D:
|> |> | drive is full, the only option I saw to get an 'image / clone'
|> |> | (always got those two confused) of the C: drive was to remove
|> |> | it and use my XP machine's more robust facilities to create
|> |> | that image for backup (fall-back) purposes.
|> |>
|> |> Are C:\ & D:\ two partitions on a single master HDD on the Primary
|> |> IDE connector of the motherboard in the 98FE machine? And is the
|> |> CD drive connected as a master on the Secondary IDE connector of
|> |> the motherboard? That's the setup I had! So... a second option is
|> |> to connect a second HDD as a slave to the first & cut the
|> |> XP-machine out of the picture altogether! I have a master on how
|> |> to do that! Probably, when done, your D
artition will become
|> |> E
artition, if you elect to keep the second HDD permanently
|> |> installed.
|> |>
|> |> | I do have both Ghost and True Image, so will try both to create
|> |> | an image on the external HDD, then burn them to DVD. Will have
|> |> | to transfer to several CD's if I do need to fall-back, since
|> |> | the 98 machine only has CD ROM and floppy drives. Would
|> |> | multiple CD's be a problem?
|> |> |
|> |> | Thanks again for your comments and suggestions.
|> |> |
|> |> | One other question, could I install SE over FE and save the
|> |> | effort of reapplying all the MS fixes and reinstalling all the
|> |> | apps? Probably not, or someone probably would have suggested
|> |> | that.
|> |> |
|> |> | Some may consider that to be a really dumb question, but I've
|> |> | found the only really dumb question is the one that isn't asked.
|> |>
|> |> --
|> |> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> |> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> |> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> |> Should things get worse after this,
|> |> PCR
|> |>
pcrrcp@netzero.net
|>
|> --
|> Thanks or Good Luck,
|> There may be humor in this post, and,
|> Naturally, you will not sue,
|> Should things get worse after this,
|> PCR
|>
pcrrcp@netzero.net
--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
Should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net