Re: Cloning Win98FE prior to SE upgrade
Like I said Dan, if it weren't for the fact this machine already had XP, I'd
be running 98. I was a diehard 98 person, and *hated* XP. Now that I've
been running it for about 1 1/2 years, I've grown to like it.
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"Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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| Thanks for your input, Curt. It is the masses loss, then imo.
|
| "Curt Christianson" wrote:
|
| > Hi Dan,
| >
| > I understand your fondness of 98SE, and I wouldn't consider giving up my
| > copy. I'm currently using XP Pro because that is what was on the
machine
| > when I got it.
| >
| > As far as others "jumping back on the 98 bandwagon", it ain't gonna
happen.
| > For one thing, there aren't that many copies just floating around any
| > longer. Secondly, fewer and fewer applications will run on 98, and very
| > little hardware is marketed with 98 in mind.
| >
| > I kind of doubt MS will re-release W98, and that would be the only way
it
| > could be available to "the masses" again. Besides, the masses are no
longer
| > interested in 98.
| >
| > --
| > Curt
| >
| > Windows Support Center
| >
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| >
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| >
| > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > news:287AE979-0755-4B0F-A6FE-42F41ED6D06A@microsoft.com...
| > | Ah, thank you and that makes so much sense. When I helped test Vista
| > | Ultimate, 32 bit for Microsoft; I burned the ISO image from the
website to
| > a
| > | DVD after I had downloaded the file. I have a CD burner and a DVD
burner
| > as
| > | well. I really do enjoy dual-booting with XP Professional and 98
Second
| > | Edition. I was talking to Microsoft support recently and the engineer
who
| > | said he was from India said that he did the same thing as I did with a
| > | dual-boot of 98SE and XP Pro. So it could be possible to remotely
| > transport
| > | someone's entire computer desktop via an ISO image to another computer
and
| > | then setup the account on that other computer. Ah, now I see why
Chris
| > | Quirke, MVP is so concerned about Windows XP Professional and the lack
of
| > | maintance operating system like 98SE has with DOS. The way I see it
now
| > is
| > | that XP has too many services and this makes it vulnerable. In
addition,
| > XP
| > | Pro. has remote desktop while really nice for remote admin. it allows
for
| > a
| > | vulnerability such as what happened at the school that I work at to
| > happen.
| > | 98SE is a closed system and has much more limited access by other
people
| > | remotely. 98SE also has DOS which allows for people to use older
programs
| > | and have great fun. Because, 98SE is tied with the 9x source code
then
| > this
| > | allows for people and even schools to use older programs like games
and
| > | educational software that will not run on XP. This is the reason that
I
| > | think 98SE is a great operating system and hopefully people will see
this
| > and
| > | jump back on the bandwagon by purchasing full copies of 98SE for
dual-boot
| > | systems and to allow schools to use all of their older educational
| > software
| > | that otherwise would have to be thrown away.
| > |
| > | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
| > |
| > | > An image is a regular file, Dan. Most often with the ISO extension.
You
| > can
| > | > do with it the same things you can do with any file. Because an
image of
| > a
| > | > hard drive partition is usually quite large, the only decent ways to
| > | > transport it are over a network, whether it's a LAN, WAN or the
| > internet, or
| > | > using an external hard drive. That or you break it up using some
utility
| > and
| > | > burn it to CDs or DVDs.
| > | >
| > | > No, the XP groups are not interested in this conversation.
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Gary S. Terhune
| > | > MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | >
www.grystmill.com
| > | >
| > | > "Dan" <Dan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:A4C0B217-5D65-40A9-8B0D-1794C9370057@microsoft.com...
| > | > >
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/imagew.html
| > | > >
| > | > > Is this the program you are referring to, Gary? Also, how does an
| > image
| > | > > of
| > | > > someone's computer get transferred from one computer to another
| > computer
| > | > > when
| > | > > they are both in different locations. Is it done through remote
| > access of
| > | > > XP
| > | > > Professional. Feel Free to add the XP newsgroup because I am not
sure
| > the
| > | > > best newsgroup there to post this under and this group has always
been
| > the
| > | > > most friendly to me out of all the other newsgroups.
| > | > >
| > | > > "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:
| > | > >
| > | > >> Connecting the computers is not a problem. The issue is what
program
| > to
| > | > >> use
| > | > >> that will create an image of Computer A on Computer B's storage
| > media. I
| > | > >> know of no such program for DOS, and only one for Windows that
will
| > work
| > | > >> in
| > | > >> Win98 and is currently available: Image, from Terabyte Unlimited.
I
| > don't
| > | > >> *think* there is an evaluation version, I *think* you have to pay
for
| > it,
| > | > >> period. Whereas BootIt NG has an imaging program built-in, is
free
| > for
| > | > >> the
| > | > >> purpose, and can write to CD, to an external drive (if the mobo
has
| > | > >> native
| > | > >> USB support), to an existing partition on the hard drive (as an
ISO
| > | > >> file),
| > | > >> or to free space on the hard drive.
| > | > >>
| > | > >> If Teflon's intent is to create a one-time backup in preparation
for
| > an
| > | > >> upgrade, without incurring costs, BootIt NG is the solution, and
| > writing
| > | > >> to
| > | > >> the same partition and then copying the ISO file to Computer B
using
| > some
| > | > >> sort of networking, which I guess in this case is the LPT link.
| > Writing
| > | > >> the
| > | > >> BootIt NG to free space on the disk, after shrinking the existing
| > | > >> partition
| > | > >> is a distant second, since it can't be copied the Computer B.
| > | > >>
| > | > >> --
| > | > >> Gary S. Terhune
| > | > >> MS-MVP Shell/User
| > | > >>
www.grystmill.com
| > | > >>
| > | > >> "Wandering" <AmoreDei@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > >> news:tpOdnaLBR5m1903bnZ2dnUVZ_sGvnZ2d@comcast.com...
| > | > >> > In the good old DOS days stuff like Laplink and others
connected
| > | > >> > things with serial or parallel ports. Since you have a suitable
| > cable,
| > | > >> > why not try it. You can get it and others at:
| > | > >> >
| > | > >> >
http://vetusware.com/
| > | > >> >
| > | > >> > Good luck!
| > | > >> >
| > | > >> >
| > | > >> > "Teflon" <spambaitmeister@gmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > >> > news:1188056925.770017.298540@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
| > | > >> >> On Aug 20, 9:22 am, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote:
| > | > >> >> > I wouldn't trust an internet backup solution. If you had the
| > disk
| > | > >> > space, you
| > | > >> >> > could make an image and then store that on the internet, but
any
| > | > >> > scheme that
| > | > >> >> > has the backup writing directly to the remote server is
almost
| > | > >> > bound to
| > | > >> >> > fail, and would take a long, long time. It's the slowest and
| > least
| > | > >> > reliable
| > | > >> >> > of all the solutions thus far, and I don't think either True
| > Image
| > | > >> > or Ghost
| > | > >> >> > will do the job. Internet backup is a special program that I
| > | > >> > consider OK for
| > | > >> >> > backing up a few files, but not for an image.
| > | > >> >> >
| > | > >> >> > Your laptop has no LAN or USB port? Does it have a serial
port?
| > | > >> > Does your
| > | > >> >> > desktop machine have a serial port? What about LPT ports?
| > | > >> >> >
| > | > >> >> > --
| > | > >> >> > Gary S. Terhune
| > | > >> >> > MS-MVP Shell/Userwww.grystmill.com
| > | > >> >>
| > | > >> >> Yes Gary, the 98 FE laptop does not have a LAN connection, but
| > does
| > | > >> >> have a wireless card, a 1.0 USB port, a serial port and a
parallel
| > | > >> >> port. Don't think I can drive an external HDD via that 1.0
USB
| > | > >> > port,
| > | > >> >> or run Ghost or True Image with the 98FE's laptop's limited
| > | > >> > resources.
| > | > >> >>
| > | > >> >> My XP machine is also a laptop with wireless, a 2.0 USB port
and a
| > | > >> >> parallel (printer) port. I used to be able to get them to
talk to
| > | > >> >> each other via an ad hoc wireless connection, but that stopped
| > | > >> >> working. Also had a crossover cable that connected them via
the
| > | > >> >> parallel port, but haven't used that for awhile.
| > | > >> >>
| > | > >> >> Does that generate ideas about any other possabilities?
| > | > >> >>
| > | > >> >> I do like Lil Dave's idea about creating space for a 3rd
partition
| > | > >> > on
| > | > >> >> the 98 HDD and creating an image of C: there. I do have
Partition
| > | > >> >> Magic. Will check to see if anything I have will run on FE to
| > | > >> > create
| > | > >> >> the image.
| > | > >> >>
| > | > >> >> Thanks again to you all for hanging in here. Nothing
critical,
| > more
| > | > >> > a
| > | > >> >> learning experience than anything else, so all your help,
advise
| > and
| > | > >> >> observations is much appreciated.
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