Windows Vista Linux - Software that doesn't deliver

[Stephan Rose]

Re: Linux - Software that doesn't deliver

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 08:50:51 -0500, The poster formerly known as Nina
DiBoy wrote:

> GO wrote:
>>> And, lately, the games originally
>>> made for a console are horrible to play on a PC.
>>
>> You think that too eh? I've actually grown concerned for the future of PC
>> gaming lately. Too many games these days are being released cross-platform,
>> but the PC version seems to be an after thought. I understand why they
>> develop cross-platform as it increases their potential sales, but too many
>> games just don't translate well, or maybe they would if they put a little
>> more effort/thought into it.
>>
>
> Yes, the field of PC gaming is dying. It's sad, I'm sure gonna miss it
> one day. When my son was very young, he wanted gameboys and Nintendos
> and all that stuff just like his friends had. But I saved my money and
> bought him a computer instead. Now 10 years later he's loves PC gaming,
> but also does all kinds of other cool stuff on his machine like movies,
> stop motion animation, authors music, science stuff (he has a USB
> microscope and telescope), websites, etc. And he doesn't really like
> game consoles, he says they are boring because all you can do is play
> games.

I think though that a large contributor to the death to PC Gaming aren't
the consoles. It's the stupid huge amount of resources it takes to make a
game that can still compete.

Players want near photorealistic graphics and physics. The bar is being
pushed higher and higher ever year with games these days using budgets in
the several millions and higher to be developed.

Who can still compete with that? Who can still compete with giants like
Blizzard, EA, and the like?

Game development is something I've personally always been interested in
but competing with anything available on the shelf these days is virtually
impossible without a huge team of developers.

Individual developers or very small teams have huge difficulties competing
with that, which I think is what largely is starving the PC in particular
of gaming. There just aren't enough developers left that can still produce
anything that can compete because the price of entry is far too high.

Sad really...

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

君のこと思い出す日なんてないのは
君のこと忘れたときがないから

 

[Frank]

Re: Linux - Software that doesn't deliver

Alias wrote:


>
> All the programs I need come with Ubuntu and Automatix2. What I don't
> need and you do are anti virus and anti malware programs. With a hard
> firewall router, I don't need a soft firewall either. I also don't need
> the WPA and WGA programs.
>
> Alias

You're running a toy for pete's sake! It's just above etch-a-sketch.
For you I guess that's enough.
Fro a business, forget it.
How many times do you need to hear the truth before it sinks into that
little pointy head of yours, huh.
Frank

 

[Stephan Rose]

Re: Linux - Software that doesn't deliver

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 07:29:58 -0700, Frank wrote:

> Alias wrote:
>
>
>>
>> All the programs I need come with Ubuntu and Automatix2. What I don't
>> need and you do are anti virus and anti malware programs. With a hard
>> firewall router, I don't need a soft firewall either. I also don't need
>> the WPA and WGA programs.
>>
>> Alias
>
> You're running a toy for pete's sake! It's just above etch-a-sketch.
> For you I guess that's enough.
> Fro a business, forget it.
> How many times do you need to hear the truth before it sinks into that
> little pointy head of yours, huh.

Works very well for me and my business needs Frank. Matter of fact,
Eclipse's C/C++ Editor is far more advanced than Visual Studio is. =)

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

君のこと思い出す日なんてないのは
君のこと忘れたときがないから

 

[Alias]

Re: Linux - Software that doesn't deliver

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>
>>
>> All the programs I need come with Ubuntu and Automatix2. What I don't
>> need and you do are anti virus and anti malware programs. With a hard
>> firewall router, I don't need a soft firewall either. I also don't
>> need the WPA and WGA programs.
>>
>> Alias
>
> You're running a toy for pete's [sic] sake!

False.

> It's just above etch-a-sketch.

False.

> For you I guess that's enough.

For many people, governments and businesses, it's enough.

> Fro [sic] a business, forget it.

It's not our fault that you're too stupid to install Ubunut, Frankie Boy.

> How many times do you need to hear the truth before it sinks into that
> little pointy head of yours, huh.
> Frank

You've posted these lies repeatedly and you've been repeatedly and
soundly refuted.

Alias

 

[Frank]

Re: Linux - Software that doesn't deliver

Alias wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> All the programs I need come with Ubuntu and Automatix2. What I don't
>>> need and you do are anti virus and anti malware programs. With a hard
>>> firewall router, I don't need a soft firewall either. I also don't
>>> need the WPA and WGA programs.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>> You're running a toy for pete's [sic] sake!
>
>
> False.
>
>> It's just above etch-a-sketch.
>
>
> False.
>
>> For you I guess that's enough.
>
>
> For many people, governments and businesses, it's enough.
>
>> Fro [sic] a business, forget it.
>
>
> It's not our fault that you're too stupid to install Ubunut, Frankie Boy.
>
>> How many times do you need to hear the truth before it sinks into that
>> little pointy head of yours, huh.
>> Frank
>
>
> You've posted these lies repeatedly and you've been repeatedly and
> soundly refuted.
>
> Alias

Still making a fool out of yourself I see!
Good, we enjoy the laughter...hahaha...lol.
Frank

 

[Frank Bright]

Re: Linux - Software that doesn't deliver


"Lang Murphy" <lang_murphy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:0494211B-0B41-4CCD-A6C1-565D4D7B76CF@microsoft.com...
> <snip>
>> GOOD THINGS ABOUT LINUX:
> <snip>
>
> Yes, there are good things about nix...
>
> <snip>
>> Failures of Linux:
> <snip>
>
> Yes, there are places where nix fails...
>
> From my perspective, which maps very much to your perspective, nix
> requires -too much time- of it's user to get things working as expected.
> I'm playing around with Ubuntu 7.04 right now. There appears to be pretty
> good support in alt.os.linux.ubuntu, but, like here, depends on who
> responds to one's queries. No doubt my view is slanted by being one of
> those folks who, pretty much, has no problems with Vista. Sure, I've got
> my one or two nits that I don't like about Vista, but, generally, I'm a
> happy camper.
>
> All that said... ultimately, no pun intended, one must spend a fair amount
> of time learning nix's different way of doing things. If one is willing to
> invest the time, from what I've read, there are few things that nix won't
> do that Windows can. Can't comment on the gaming aspect... not a gamer.
> But if one is a gamer, and that support happens to be, in fact, one of the
> major deficiencies of nix, then, no doubt, I can see that as being a major
> road block to moving to nix as a desktop replacement for Windows.
>
> Like yourself, I like to keep an open mind on nix and dip my toes into the
> nix pool every couple of years, just to see how things are progressing. I
> think some folks may take your indictment of nix as an indication that
> you're closed minded. Well... you never would have come to the conclusions
> you did, without having attempted using a nix distro. Whether you invested
> as much time as nix fans might deem appropriate, is beyond me. No doubt
> this thread will generate plenty of replies from that camp, given the
> number of nix aficionados who hang out in this ng.
>
> Thanks for the detailed post; appreciated!
>
> Lang

I'm a technological agnostic, so I go for what works and runs well. I am a
dual-booter. (Vista/Mandriva & XP/Ubuntu Studio) That said, I do identify
with the author of this forum, although I won't get into dismissing Linux
the way he seems to do. I try to keep an open mind, so...

I've been fooling around with Linux for 3 to 4 months now. Ubuntu IS easy
and I've learned a lot from it. And while I am grateful to Ubuntu for
helping me enter the Linux world, I must say this in all honesty: Ubuntu is
UgLy!! (Studio is a lot better) Please, get a web designer in here fast, a
color coordinator, anything !! And for those who love the 'Eye Candy'
argument, since when do people NOT care how their OS looks and operates? It
IS important, especially if I'm staring at it for 2+ hours a day. Sure, I
can customize my desktop in Ubuntu Feisty, but there's only so far one can
go unless you use Compiz or Beryl, and that software is still very much in
the beta phase.

I believe the predicament of Linux is not entirely Linux's fault - in other
words, combine an Open Source Philosophy with a free market and mix in
intellectual property and stock shareholders and you get Linux's justified
feeling of alienation from a market that only cooperates when it has profits
coming in as a result. As a result, most hardware developers have no
interests in sharing vital information with driver developers in the Linux
community. So developers must sometimes work backwards to develop drivers
for Linux and that takes ......time.

That said, Linux has a long way to go to satisfy my needs as a professional.
I'm a professional musician/publisher and so I use many different functions
that cater to musicians/publishers. And the nature of technology is to be on
the cutting edge, to offer things that one has Not been able to do before.
Here are some of my functions that Linux as yet cannot supply:

1) I use Finale to do music notation and write charts on my computer. I've
tried to get Finale/Midi configured for this in Ubuntu Fesity and others
have as well. We have not found any solutions thus far. There ARE music
notation programs for Ubuntu, but they look cheesy and amateurish in
comparison to Finale. Charts ARE about looks and presentation, and anyone
who claims that other music notation programs can come close to doing what
Finale does simply does not know what they are talking about.

2) I use my computer for Pro Audio and use Sonar 6 Producer Edition on XP.
Linux has Ardour 2.0 which looks impressive. But the quality of plugins
cannot even come close to what I get with my Waves Audio Plugins, which are
used by many professionals in the business. I have tinkered with Ardour and
found that I'd be searching the web night and day to find half-way suitable
plugins, and even then I question that. I hold a little bit of a grudge
against the author of Ardour because I made a generous donation and got no
thank you whatsoever - no acknowledgement of my gift or anything. And yes, I
wrote him about that directly. I don't care who you are. One should say
'Thank You' when they receive a gift.

Open Office did say 'Thank You' to me and for that, they will probably
receive more money from me in the future.

3) I do OnCD printing for many of my projects. Turboprint for Linux actually
supplies this driver now and I bought it as well. However, I asked
Turboprint what program to use here (thinking templates etc) and they could
only suggest Gimp and Open Draw. With no templates I'd be shooting in the
dark for half a day and wasting CDs in order get the printing aligned
right, not to mention lack of color/resolution control.

4) Turboprint recently completed making the driver for my Epson RX580, but
as yet they cannot support the scanner function of this Epson model. While I
AM grateful that they have made a driver for this (I bought it remember?),
supporting half a product is kind of typical in Linux.

5) I can get Flash MX to work in Linux through CrossOver but my project is
more advanced and requires at least Flash Studio MX 2004. That version will
not run on CrossOver, nor will other, more recent versions.

I really could add more but I hope my point comes through. I really do like
Linux and for the record, I think Mandriva is just as easy as Ubuntu Feisty
to use and is a LOT better looking. I dual-boot with Vista/Mandriva on my
desktop at this point, although I did have to relocate my modem and go in
wired to the internet as a result. I have yet to get my wireless Linksys
WMP300N to work with Mandriva (or Ubuntu for that matter).

Thanks to anyone who read this long post,...Frank B.

www.frankbright.com

 

[Alias]

Re: Linux - Software that doesn't deliver

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> All the programs I need come with Ubuntu and Automatix2. What I
>>>> don't need and you do are anti virus and anti malware programs. With
>>>> a hard firewall router, I don't need a soft firewall either. I also
>>>> don't need the WPA and WGA programs.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>> You're running a toy for pete's [sic] sake!
>>
>>
>> False.
>>
>>> It's just above etch-a-sketch.
>>
>>
>> False.
>>
>>> For you I guess that's enough.
>>
>>
>> For many people, governments and businesses, it's enough.
>>
>>> Fro [sic] a business, forget it.
>>
>>
>> It's not our fault that you're too stupid to install Ubunut, Frankie Boy.
>>
>>> How many times do you need to hear the truth before it sinks into
>>> that little pointy head of yours, huh.
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>> You've posted these lies repeatedly and you've been repeatedly and
>> soundly refuted.
>>
>> Alias
>
> Still making a fool out of yourself I see!
> Good, we enjoy the laughter...hahaha...lol.
> Frank

Translation: when Frankie Boy is soundly refuted he resorts to childish
insults.

Alias

 

[Bill Yanaire]

Re: Linux - Software that doesn't deliver

and Alias isn't far behind. You're wasting valuable bandwidth. Mozey on
over to the Ubuntu group and tell them how wonderful Ubuntu is and how it
will save the world

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.li> wrote in message
news:urLnnJtzHHA.5484@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Frank wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> All the programs I need come with Ubuntu and Automatix2. What I don't
>>>>> need and you do are anti virus and anti malware programs. With a hard
>>>>> firewall router, I don't need a soft firewall either. I also don't
>>>>> need the WPA and WGA programs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You're running a toy for pete's [sic] sake!
>>>
>>>
>>> False.
>>>
>>>> It's just above etch-a-sketch.
>>>
>>>
>>> False.
>>>
>>>> For you I guess that's enough.
>>>
>>>
>>> For many people, governments and businesses, it's enough.
>>>
>>>> Fro [sic] a business, forget it.
>>>
>>>
>>> It's not our fault that you're too stupid to install Ubunut, Frankie
>>> Boy.
>>>
>>>> How many times do you need to hear the truth before it sinks into that
>>>> little pointy head of yours, huh.
>>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>> You've posted these lies repeatedly and you've been repeatedly and
>>> soundly refuted.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>> Still making a fool out of yourself I see!
>> Good, we enjoy the laughter...hahaha...lol.
>> Frank
>
> Translation: when Frankie Boy is soundly refuted he resorts to childish
> insults.
>
> Alias

 

[ArameFarpado]

Re: Linux - Software that doesn't deliver

Em Quarta, 25 de Julho de 2007 15:29, Frank escreveu:
>
> You're running a toy for pete's sake! It's just above etch-a-sketch.
> For you I guess that's enough.
> Fro a business, forget it.
> How many times do you need to hear the truth before it sinks into that
> little pointy head of yours, huh.
> Frank

Aren't you tired off being a domesticated animal farm?

When it comes to do real pro computer working, windows can't do it... after
adding a few extra software on it, it becames abled to do some (little) pro
computing... god, not even MS developers can work with windows at all, just
see this video...

http://my.opera.com/EvilRadish/blog/2007/07/24/m-e-as-macas


and wake up, you are brain washed, but that is curable...

 

[Frank]

Re: Linux - Software that doesn't deliver

ArameFarpado wrote:
> Em Quarta, 25 de Julho de 2007 15:29, Frank escreveu:
>
>>You're running a toy for pete's sake! It's just above etch-a-sketch.
>>For you I guess that's enough.
>>Fro a business, forget it.
>>How many times do you need to hear the truth before it sinks into that
>>little pointy head of yours, huh.
>>Frank
>
>
> Aren't you tired off being a domesticated animal farm?
>
> When it comes to do real pro computer working, windows can't do it... after
> adding a few extra software on it, it becames abled to do some (little) pro
> computing... god, not even MS developers can work with windows at all, just
> see this video...
>
> http://my.opera.com/EvilRadish/blog/2007/07/24/m-e-as-macas
>
>
> and wake up, you are brain washed, but that is curable...
>
>
>
>


iPhone envy???
WTF are you talking about.
Linux is toy os and a piece of crap used by kids.
Get a real os. Get Vista...the very best!
Frank

p.s. leave those sheep along...you're sick!

 

[Bill Yanaire]

Re: Linux - Software that doesn't deliver

Look who is talking! Your spouse is a domesticated farm animal!


"ArameFarpado" <a-farpado.spam@netcabo.pt> wrote in message
news:f8810c$fo9$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Em Quarta, 25 de Julho de 2007 15:29, Frank escreveu:
>>
>> You're running a toy for pete's sake! It's just above etch-a-sketch.
>> For you I guess that's enough.
>> Fro a business, forget it.
>> How many times do you need to hear the truth before it sinks into that
>> little pointy head of yours, huh.
>> Frank
>
> Aren't you tired off being a domesticated animal farm?
>
> When it comes to do real pro computer working, windows can't do it...
> after
> adding a few extra software on it, it becames abled to do some (little)
> pro
> computing... god, not even MS developers can work with windows at all,
> just
> see this video...
>
> http://my.opera.com/EvilRadish/blog/2007/07/24/m-e-as-macas
>
>
> and wake up, you are brain washed, but that is curable...
>
>
>
>

 

[James Matthews]

Re: Linux - Software that doesn't deliver

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"Frank" <fb@nospamer.cmn> wrote in message
news:OTPgjDtzHHA.3772@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> All the programs I need come with Ubuntu and Automatix2. What I don't
>>>> need and you do are anti virus and anti malware programs. With a hard
>>>> firewall router, I don't need a soft firewall either. I also don't need
>>>> the WPA and WGA programs.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>> You're running a toy for pete's [sic] sake!
>>
>>
>> False.
>>
>>> It's just above etch-a-sketch.
>>
>>
>> False.
>>
>>> For you I guess that's enough.
>>
>>
>> For many people, governments and businesses, it's enough.
>>
>>> Fro [sic] a business, forget it.
>>
>>
>> It's not our fault that you're too stupid to install Ubunut, Frankie Boy.
>>
>>> How many times do you need to hear the truth before it sinks into that
>>> little pointy head of yours, huh.
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>> You've posted these lies repeatedly and you've been repeatedly and
>> soundly refuted.
>>
>> Alias
>
> Still making a fool out of yourself I see!
> Good, we enjoy the laughter...hahaha...lol.
> Frank

 

[Rich]

Re: Linux - Software that doesn't deliver

You sound like a "brainwashed" Vista user taling about Microsoft and Vista



the old socialist double standard?


heh


oh how quickly we can switch the arguments dependent upon what is in
context.


Rich

 

[Rich]

Re: Linux - Software that doesn't deliver

>I dont understand why u guys sit in here and feud about windows or linux
>everyone has a right to there choice of OS. neither one of you guys are


If you understood the alternative, then it would become more clear.
What else is there for the "Vista is ____" (select disparaging adjective of
choice) crowd?
Some egos need to enforce their choice of OS by making it seem better by
making the OTHER "seem" worse.
Some its not even an OS thing but "speaking truth to power"

so to boil it down?

EGO, the dialectic makes then feel better about themselves

I call it political cocaine in the political world.

it helps you get thru another day.


Rich

 

[Mr. Happy]

Re: Linux - Software that doesn't deliver

Frank wrote:

> Mr. Happy wrote:
>
>>>
>>
>> Linux development is proceeding at such a rapid pace that most Linux
>> users don't want to keep a particular version for more than a year or 2.
>> We love the innovation that comes out RAPIDLY within the Linux community.
>> So stick with XP, an OLD and p.o.s. operating system. You won't be missed
>> in the Linux world, I can assure you. If you feel stupid enough,
>> "upgrade" to Vista.
>>
> Yeah, that guy in his garage in Germany is just burning the midnight oil
> cranking out worthless toy os's for linturds like you to eat and enjoy
> every 6 moths...wow...hahahah...lol!
> Right, doris?
> Frank

You're so totally clueless it's incredible. Do you think that the main
applications for Linux are written by one individual in a garage? Pretty
much all the major software development firms sponsor the various major
applications by either contributing man-hours by their developers or direct
cash allowances to the developer teams.

Shake Hands With,
Mr. Happy

--
"Cheer up, things could be worse." So I cheered up, installed Vista and
sure enough, things got worse.

 

[Mr. Happy]

Re: Linux - Software that doesn't deliver

Frank wrote:

> Mr. Happy wrote:
>
>>>
>>
>> Linux development is proceeding at such a rapid pace that most Linux
>> users don't want to keep a particular version for more than a year or 2.
>> We love the innovation that comes out RAPIDLY within the Linux community.
>> So stick with XP, an OLD and p.o.s. operating system. You won't be missed
>> in the Linux world, I can assure you. If you feel stupid enough,
>> "upgrade" to Vista.
>>
> Yeah, that guy in his garage in Germany is just burning the midnight oil
> cranking out worthless toy os's for linturds like you to eat and enjoy
> every 6 moths...wow...hahahah...lol!
> Right, doris?
> Frank

Though the article is dated back in 2003, already IBM had invested $1
Billion into Linux and had 7500 people working on Linux in the company. The
numbers have increased significantly since then and that is only one high
tech company. You really don't understand the Linux world if you think it's
all done in someone's garage.

http://linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/interviews/4768/2/

Shake Hands With,
Mr. Happy

--
"Cheer up, things could be worse." So I cheered up, installed Vista and
sure enough, things got worse.

 

[xfile]

Re: Linux - Software that doesn't deliver

Thanks for sharing your real life experience on professional works.

Much appreciated.


"Frank Bright" <Brightbelt@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:9F29FE9B-1539-4294-975B-74D19501BE19@microsoft.com...
>
> "Lang Murphy" <lang_murphy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0494211B-0B41-4CCD-A6C1-565D4D7B76CF@microsoft.com...
>> <snip>
>>> GOOD THINGS ABOUT LINUX:
>> <snip>
>>
>> Yes, there are good things about nix...
>>
>> <snip>
>>> Failures of Linux:
>> <snip>
>>
>> Yes, there are places where nix fails...
>>
>> From my perspective, which maps very much to your perspective, nix
>> requires -too much time- of it's user to get things working as expected.
>> I'm playing around with Ubuntu 7.04 right now. There appears to be pretty
>> good support in alt.os.linux.ubuntu, but, like here, depends on who
>> responds to one's queries. No doubt my view is slanted by being one of
>> those folks who, pretty much, has no problems with Vista. Sure, I've got
>> my one or two nits that I don't like about Vista, but, generally, I'm a
>> happy camper.
>>
>> All that said... ultimately, no pun intended, one must spend a fair
>> amount of time learning nix's different way of doing things. If one is
>> willing to invest the time, from what I've read, there are few things
>> that nix won't do that Windows can. Can't comment on the gaming aspect...
>> not a gamer. But if one is a gamer, and that support happens to be, in
>> fact, one of the major deficiencies of nix, then, no doubt, I can see
>> that as being a major road block to moving to nix as a desktop
>> replacement for Windows.
>>
>> Like yourself, I like to keep an open mind on nix and dip my toes into
>> the nix pool every couple of years, just to see how things are
>> progressing. I think some folks may take your indictment of nix as an
>> indication that you're closed minded. Well... you never would have come
>> to the conclusions you did, without having attempted using a nix distro.
>> Whether you invested as much time as nix fans might deem appropriate, is
>> beyond me. No doubt this thread will generate plenty of replies from that
>> camp, given the number of nix aficionados who hang out in this ng.
>>
>> Thanks for the detailed post; appreciated!
>>
>> Lang
>
> I'm a technological agnostic, so I go for what works and runs well. I am a
> dual-booter. (Vista/Mandriva & XP/Ubuntu Studio) That said, I do identify
> with the author of this forum, although I won't get into dismissing Linux
> the way he seems to do. I try to keep an open mind, so...
>
> I've been fooling around with Linux for 3 to 4 months now. Ubuntu IS easy
> and I've learned a lot from it. And while I am grateful to Ubuntu for
> helping me enter the Linux world, I must say this in all honesty: Ubuntu
> is UgLy!! (Studio is a lot better) Please, get a web designer in here
> fast, a color coordinator, anything !! And for those who love the 'Eye
> Candy' argument, since when do people NOT care how their OS looks and
> operates? It IS important, especially if I'm staring at it for 2+ hours a
> day. Sure, I can customize my desktop in Ubuntu Feisty, but there's only
> so far one can go unless you use Compiz or Beryl, and that software is
> still very much in the beta phase.
>
> I believe the predicament of Linux is not entirely Linux's fault - in
> other words, combine an Open Source Philosophy with a free market and mix
> in intellectual property and stock shareholders and you get Linux's
> justified feeling of alienation from a market that only cooperates when it
> has profits coming in as a result. As a result, most hardware developers
> have no interests in sharing vital information with driver developers in
> the Linux community. So developers must sometimes work backwards to
> develop drivers for Linux and that takes ......time.
>
> That said, Linux has a long way to go to satisfy my needs as a
> professional. I'm a professional musician/publisher and so I use many
> different functions that cater to musicians/publishers. And the nature of
> technology is to be on the cutting edge, to offer things that one has Not
> been able to do before. Here are some of my functions that Linux as yet
> cannot supply:
>
> 1) I use Finale to do music notation and write charts on my computer. I've
> tried to get Finale/Midi configured for this in Ubuntu Fesity and others
> have as well. We have not found any solutions thus far. There ARE music
> notation programs for Ubuntu, but they look cheesy and amateurish in
> comparison to Finale. Charts ARE about looks and presentation, and anyone
> who claims that other music notation programs can come close to doing what
> Finale does simply does not know what they are talking about.
>
> 2) I use my computer for Pro Audio and use Sonar 6 Producer Edition on XP.
> Linux has Ardour 2.0 which looks impressive. But the quality of plugins
> cannot even come close to what I get with my Waves Audio Plugins, which
> are used by many professionals in the business. I have tinkered with
> Ardour and found that I'd be searching the web night and day to find
> half-way suitable plugins, and even then I question that. I hold a little
> bit of a grudge against the author of Ardour because I made a generous
> donation and got no thank you whatsoever - no acknowledgement of my gift
> or anything. And yes, I wrote him about that directly. I don't care who
> you are. One should say 'Thank You' when they receive a gift.
>
> Open Office did say 'Thank You' to me and for that, they will probably
> receive more money from me in the future.
>
> 3) I do OnCD printing for many of my projects. Turboprint for Linux
> actually supplies this driver now and I bought it as well. However, I
> asked Turboprint what program to use here (thinking templates etc) and
> they could only suggest Gimp and Open Draw. With no templates I'd be
> shooting in the dark for half a day and wasting CDs in order get the
> printing aligned right, not to mention lack of color/resolution control.
>
> 4) Turboprint recently completed making the driver for my Epson RX580, but
> as yet they cannot support the scanner function of this Epson model. While
> I AM grateful that they have made a driver for this (I bought it
> remember?), supporting half a product is kind of typical in Linux.
>
> 5) I can get Flash MX to work in Linux through CrossOver but my project is
> more advanced and requires at least Flash Studio MX 2004. That version
> will not run on CrossOver, nor will other, more recent versions.
>
> I really could add more but I hope my point comes through. I really do
> like Linux and for the record, I think Mandriva is just as easy as Ubuntu
> Feisty to use and is a LOT better looking. I dual-boot with Vista/Mandriva
> on my desktop at this point, although I did have to relocate my modem and
> go in wired to the internet as a result. I have yet to get my wireless
> Linksys WMP300N to work with Mandriva (or Ubuntu for that matter).
>
> Thanks to anyone who read this long post,...Frank B.
>
> www.frankbright.com

 

[Frank]

Re: Linux - Software that doesn't deliver

Mr. Happy wrote:


>
> You're so totally clueless it's incredible. Do you think that the main
> applications for Linux are written by one individual in a garage?

They aren't? Are you sure about that?

Pretty
> much all the major software development firms sponsor the various major
> applications by either contributing man-hours by their developers or direct
> cash allowances to the developer teams.


You mean like a free Happy Meal mr happy?
Frank

 

[Frank]

Re: Linux - Software that doesn't deliver

Mr. Happy wrote:


>
> Though the article is dated back in 2003, already IBM had invested $1
> Billion into Linux...

I though linux was free? Why then did IMB spend 1bil$'s on it?

and had 7500 people working on Linux in the company.

Oh, I see. They over spent on linux so they had to fire 150,000 IBM
employees to make up the difference.
Makes sense to me!
Frank

 

[Frank Bright]

Re: Linux - Software that doesn't deliver


"xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:ulwspJyzHHA.5408@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for sharing your real life experience on professional works.
>
> Much appreciated.
>

You're welcome! Thanks for reading my post. I have a couple of qualifiers I
need to add:

- I stand corrected on saying there are not templates for On-CD Printing in
the Open Office Drawing program.
Turboprint mentions them in their help section. There are templates both
for Epson and Canon On-CD printing. So I may just give this a shot in the
next week.
- In terms of Macromedia (now Adobe) software, the whole Macromedia Studio
MX program (includes Flash MX, Fireworks MX, Dreamweaver MX, Freehand MX)
runs well in CrossOver in Linux. CrossOver is a windows emulator program -
CrossOver is the pay-for version, while 'Wine' is the free version. Note
here: I refer here only to Studio MX, NOT Studio MX 2004. Studio MX 2004
does NOT WORK in Linux.
- Adobe Photoshop 7.0 works well in CrossOver.

Thanks, Frank