Windows Vista Vista has corrupted 30% of all of my JPG files

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Re: Vista has corrupted 30% of all of my JPG files


>I had the same problem in Vista when I tried importing my photos from
>my external USB drive (all NTFS formated).
>Ruined hundreds of photos - now showing only partial images. Expensive
>repair software (can't recall the name) can probably fix some of them.

Well I tried to duplicate this problem, but I only have the vista to play with.
I copied some good pix from my N: Maxtor external drive to my O: plugin 250 meg
USB drive.
My O: USB = FAT system
My N: Maxtor = NTFS
rest of the drives = NTFS

I viewed them after copying them with IV, and they looked fine.

Also copied them from N: to O: and O: to C:\temp
all using IV. Not a bad one in the bunch.
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Re: Vista has corrupted 30% of all of my JPG files


Hi,

Well I tried IV. A great application, but unfortunately I still have
the same problem.

I'm starting to think that it's simply a driver/firmware
incompatibility between both ends of the USB connection.
Unfortunately, no driver/downloadable firmware updates appear to exist
for these older devices (as of yet). The data simply gets corrupted in
transfers, whether or not that transfer is a file copy read, a file copy
write or even just a read and display from the remote device by an
application on the Vista machine such as IV. In all cases, the data
just doesn't go across the USB cable and come out the other side
intact.

It happens with TIFF and BMP as well as JPG. I have also had
corruptions with videos in MPG, AVI, WMV and FLV formats. Never
noticed a problem with other file types such as word, powerpoint, etc..
In fact, when I bought my new Vista machine I transferred my entire "My
Documents" directory (almost 1G of data) from my XP machine using the
same Pocketec Datastor USB 2.0 (40G) with no problems whatsoever. It
just doesn't like pictures or video.

As I say, the files on the Sony DSC-v1 or Pocketec Datastor may be fine
initially, as can be proven with an XP machine. However, file transfers
to/from the Vista machine over USB will produce permanently corrupted
results. However, file transfers to/from the Vista machine by any
other means (e.g. network transfers from an XP machine, or plugging the
memory stick directly into the slot on the Vista machine) from these
devices are fine.


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Re: Vista has corrupted 30% of all of my JPG files

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:01:12 +0530, wbarbourca
<wbarbourca.2w14vg@DoNotSpam.com> wrote:

>
>Hi,
>
>Well I tried IV. A great application, but unfortunately I still have
>the same problem.
>
>I'm starting to think that it's simply a driver/firmware
>incompatibility between both ends of the USB connection.

Could also just be buggy Vista. Have you seen this?

http://blog.tiensivu.com/aaron/arch...patches-released-KB-938194-and-KB-938979.html
 
Re: Vista has corrupted 30% of all of my JPG files

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:01:12 +0530, wbarbourca
<wbarbourca.2w14vg@DoNotSpam.com> wrote:

>
>Hi,
>
>Well I tried IV. A great application, but unfortunately I still have
>the same problem.

couple questions...
with IV, what did the image look like when you loaded it into IV from the
stick, onto the vista machine ?
ie:
IV installed on Vista machine.
stick = drive M: or whatever...
fire up IV from the vista, browse to M: and an image path.
Load up an image.. what's it look like ? Corrupted or not ?
F7 to move & delete from M: or F6 to copy, pick a location on the Vista machine
and Save it there if it appears correctly in IV..

If it works then,
use 'T' thumbnails. F7 or F6, and move/copy them to the new path/drive.
Did they corrupt or not ?
or F6 to Copy files from that drive. I don't think you really want something
deleting the files from the stick, b4 you work out the bugs.

Did you email the makers of the stick about this problem ?

>I'm starting to think that it's simply a driver/firmware
>incompatibility between both ends of the USB connection.
That would be my guess also.. Which would mean you should be able to google for
the stick, and pick thru the results until you see one that sounds like your
problem.

>Unfortunately, no driver/downloadable firmware updates appear to exist
>for these older devices (as of yet). The data simply gets corrupted in
>transfers, whether or not that transfer is a file copy read, a file copy
>write or even just a read and display from the remote device by an
>application on the Vista machine such as IV. In all cases, the data
>just doesn't go across the USB cable and come out the other side
>intact.
>
>It happens with TIFF and BMP as well as JPG. I have also had
>corruptions with videos in MPG, AVI, WMV and FLV formats. Never
>noticed a problem with other file types such as word, powerpoint, etc..
>In fact, when I bought my new Vista machine I transferred my entire "My
>Documents" directory (almost 1G of data) from my XP machine using the
>same Pocketec Datastor USB 2.0 (40G) with no problems whatsoever. It
>just doesn't like pictures or video.
>
>As I say, the files on the Sony DSC-v1 or Pocketec Datastor may be fine
>initially, as can be proven with an XP machine. However, file transfers
>to/from the Vista machine over USB will produce permanently corrupted
>results. However, file transfers to/from the Vista machine by any
>other means (e.g. network transfers from an XP machine, or plugging the
>memory stick directly into the slot on the Vista machine) from these
>devices are fine.
Which sounds correct. meaning the stick & the vista & XP are compatible.

Hmm... am I understanding you right, you're plugging the USB cable from one
machine to the other directly ?

Not real sure if a USB cable was designed for that sort of thing. Feedback =
corruption!

But you'll need someone that's done those type of transfers to help any
further. I think you need a parallel cable or fire wire or modem for machine to
machine transfers. Actually, what it sounds like you need to do is set up your
Vista & XP on a home Intranet. That's beyond me. I have no use for 2 machines
being connected. Never much dug into how to setup an intranet. But I'm pretty
sure you can bet it isn't done with 1 USB cable. Actually, I'm partially wrong
here. I did build a cable for an office intranet once. There were something
like 100 pins to 1 cable. Not exactly a USB cable.

Do you have any other cables from the XP to the Vista plugged in ?

I'm thinking with the USB plugged in to do the transfer, you may be having
other issues. Such as you would with 2 similar objects trying to do the same
job at the same time. Best illustrated when you have a bad phone connection and
hear the neighbors yakking away in the background on your phone. Poor
connection causing interference. resulting in bad images. And I'm guessing if
you did the same type transfer with 'My Documents', you probably have
corruption in them also. They're just not as visible as an image or movie. ie:
You'd need to run a spell checker to be sure.

Take a look at the cable on your monitor.. See that large round oblong thing on
the line to the monitor ? That's a filter to prevent interference. ie: The
computer itself broadcasts interference. The monitor does also. a USB cable is
normally unfiltered. If you have 2 cables connecting the Vista with the XP,
that might be your problem. Do you have a USB printer connected to both
machines ? Try unplugging that cable and do a transfer.
Any other USB things connected to both machines you failed to mention ? Or list
them all again..

Take the above and see if it matches your setup.. I'm just guessing now.

Actually, I'm not sure what you are doing.. ie: put data on the stick via USB
from the XP, then move the USB cable on the stick from the XP to the vista and
try to download from the stick ?

It should work, but even though the stick has a USB connection, there is such a
thing as signal loss over any wires. Plugging the stick in directly to the
Vista or XP negates the signal loss. There really shouldn't be any signal loss
over a normal length USB cable, but there could be signal interference going
on. Signal loss, interference = poor transfer. That might explain the
differences you see in the transfers. No constant, except signal noise which
would be a variable resulting in a different corrupted image as long as the
interference is present.

I wouldn't rule out dirty contacts on either the USB device or the cable
itself. A rubber pencil eraser on the contacts should be able to restore them
if necessary.

See if any of the above sounds like your situation...
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Re: Vista has corrupted 30% of all of my JPG files


A big hello to my friend ‘keepout’:

With respect to IV, in all of the cases you mentioned, the files were
corrupted, whether copying or simply viewing.

I have not emailed the ‘stick’ manufacturers with the
problem (yet). As this is supposed to be ‘plug-n-play’
equipment, I wanted to exhaust as many other possibilities as are
possible beforehand. But I fear that unless this is a popular problem
from many complainants, I doubt they would write a new driver for old
equipment (i.e. circa 2003 for XP) just for me?? I have not yet tried
any new storage devices to see if the same problems exist.

I have never tried to inter-connect the XP and Vista machines directly
via USB. Myself, I don’t see how that would be possible, as how
would one machine appear as an external device with respect to the
other? It would have to be peer-to-peer over a network, in which case
I think my transfers would be fine.

The file copies or reads that have exhibited my problem have always
been machine-to-storage-device, or storage-device-to-machine, both via
USB, i.e. the ‘stick’ has always been in the middle of the
transfer or read. In fact, file transfers from XP to Vista are not
even the issue for me any more (it was merely the initial required task
at hand).

I believe that the issue is simply the integrity of file transfers (or
application reads), between old USB storage devices that contain image
files that have been proven NOT to be corrupt, and a Vista (or possibly
just an Acer) PC.

I’m sorry that my writings put your thinking into the direction
of peer-to-peer. That's a whole other ball game. Thankfully, my
peer-to-peer transfers are fine.

I have eliminated the possibility of dirty contacts or abnormal length
of USB cable that might introduce signal loss as being culprits.

I sincerely thank you for all of your time and help! I am now
convinced that the answer lies in finding compatible drivers.

wbarbourca


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Re: Vista has corrupted 30% of all of my JPG files

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 00:07:27 +0530, wbarbourca
<wbarbourca.2w1ird@DoNotSpam.com> wrote:

>The file copies or reads that have exhibited my problem have always
>been machine-to-storage-device, or storage-device-to-machine, both via
>USB, i.e. the ‘stick’ has always been in the middle of the
>transfer or read. In fact, file transfers from XP to Vista are not
>even the issue for me any more (it was merely the initial required task
>at hand).

Ok, maybe I have it. You have a USB cable. an XP computer, and a Vista
computer.
You haven't mentioned a USB port on the XP machine, which makes me think that's
why you're using a USB cable.
I assume your XP has a USB port on the rear of the XP, else how could you
connect a USB drive to it ?
When I had my XP built, I had a 4 port USB extender installed on the front of
the machine exactly to avoid a bunch of cables, and over movement of the
machine to access rear ports. They aren't very expensive, and you could install
one yourself. Just stick it in where the floppy goes, or another blank in the
front. It has a long cable that reaches from front to back, and lot's of
electronics. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a signal amplifier and lot's of
noise filters in that box also.

Then just plug the stick into the XP USB port, do the transfer, plug it into
the Vista's USB port and finish. It all may be exactly what I thought.
Interference using a long USB cable.

Simple way to test this theory, with the computer off, position it so you can
easily access the USB ports on the rear of the XP. Install the stick into a
blank USB port. Boot, [and hope you didn't shake something loose moving the
machine, I used to do that every time. Spent more time tightening connections
than doing the actual work.]. Plug the camera in, Boot up, or plug the camera
in after a reboot, download the images to the stick. They should be fine. IV
should be able to verify they are.
remove the stick and stick it into the USB port on the vista. It should
[according to you ] transfer just fine this way.

I don't have a USB to USB cable to test this theory. But I think this will cure
the problem.

ie: on my XP there was 1 USB port that would ONLY work with either the printer
or the USB extender. I know squat about why that would matter. But I learned
use 1 port for this, and others for the other stuff.

I don't think external USB drives were meant to use a USB cable. My little 250
meg one doesn't use a cable.
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Re: Vista has corrupted 30% of all of my JPG files

Adam Albright wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:01:12 +0530, wbarbourca
> <wbarbourca.2w14vg@DoNotSpam.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Well I tried IV. A great application, but unfortunately I still have
>> the same problem.
>>
>> I'm starting to think that it's simply a driver/firmware
>> incompatibility between both ends of the USB connection.
>
> Could also just be buggy Vista. Have you seen this?
>
> http://blog.tiensivu.com/aaron/arch...patches-released-KB-938194-and-KB-938979.html
>
>


Hmm, so MS can't figure out how to sign their own software still, and
when you see the "Improved" references to drivers it kinda negates all
the assertions made here that most user problems have been due to
various hardware manufacturers getting their drivers wrong...
 
Re: Vista has corrupted 30% of all of my JPG files

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:38:34 -0500, Charlie Tame <charlie@tames.net> wrote:

>Adam Albright wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:01:12 +0530, wbarbourca
>> <wbarbourca.2w14vg@DoNotSpam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Well I tried IV. A great application, but unfortunately I still have
>>> the same problem.
>>>
>>> I'm starting to think that it's simply a driver/firmware
>>> incompatibility between both ends of the USB connection.
>>
>> Could also just be buggy Vista. Have you seen this?
>>
>> http://blog.tiensivu.com/aaron/arch...patches-released-KB-938194-and-KB-938979.html
>>
>>
>
>
>Hmm, so MS can't figure out how to sign their own software still, and
>when you see the "Improved" references to drivers it kinda negates all
>the assertions made here that most user problems have been due to
>various hardware manufacturers getting their drivers wrong...

I've been using a HP Vista HP, that I maxed out to 500 gigs drive, and 2 gigs
ram.
I've had only one problem that I can attribute to Vista. If I weren't using a
HDTV GT, I'd have had no problems. But the updated video drivers for the HP,
are incompatible with my TV.

I can agree with M$ that Vista is a very stable OS. But I've had 9 or 10 years
experience in setting things up.

But I'm not so naive as to think it's bullet proof. I thought Trend was until
they released an engine update that grabbed the 3.2 ghz 1 gig ram OS, and
turned it into a 16 kb, timex 1000. Actually it was even slower than that.
I wouldn't call Vista buggy. Just too slow..
this is a 2.8 ghz dual core.
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Re: Vista has corrupted 30% of all of my JPG files

Problem still not solved... here are some responses to questions posted in
this forum.

1) All hard drives - external and internal are NTFS, not FAT formatted.
2) Issue is still happening even on new pictures I take. This happens
whether downloaded to PC by USB or by the internal card reader. Always using
SD card, but I've tried 3 cards all with the same results. About 1 in 5
pictures are goofy now.
3) SD cards always formatted on camera, not on PC.
4) Another strange fact I've noticed... not always the same pictures have
the problems. If I download, then put the SD card back in the camera and
then re-download to PC, different images are corrupt each time. Usually the
same, but sometimes okay and sometimes the same image is not okay.
5) I understand the concepts of troubleshooting. I've done all I can to
rule out certain things. So far it's down to the PC, which could include
Vista. PC is HP a6110n if that helps. BIOS version 5.08 5/4/2007.
6) I'd be happy to have a "professional" look at the PC, but I'd sure like
to know who qualifies as "professional" these days. I've contacted
Microsoft, they tell me to contact HP (after hours on hold of course). I get
in touch with HP (apparently in India), the guy tells me it's going to cost
money just to have me talk to someone. I say forget it. Why is it I buy a
$1000 computer and nobody will touch it. If the auto industry was like this
with their warranties, it would not be accepted at all. I'd be happy to get
some references for "professionals" that can speak English and can actual be
helpful and not just have be try things I've already tried.

Don't get me wrong, this forum has provided me some insight and I'm
appreciative of the free help I'm getting. I just can't believe the problem
I'm having is that hard to solve and here it is almost 6 weeks later and I'm
no further than I was with the issue.

If someone can solve this problem, I'll buy them a 6 pack of their favorite
beverage.

Thanks.

tewkes


"Kerry Brown" wrote:

> Can you view other jpg files OK? Can you download the files from one of the
> cameras on another computer? Are they OK on that computer? Can you then
> transfer them to the Vista computer? Are they still OK?. When
> troubleshooting you have to come up with a plan to eliminate possibilities
> one at a time. So far the the only possibilities you have eliminated are the
> camera and the SD card, as it happens with two different cameras and SD
> cards. You now have to bring another computer into play to eliminate the
> computer. At this point it really does sound like a problem with USB
> transfers. That is what all of the things you have tested have in common.
> They have all been used for transfers to/from this computer. The first I'd
> do is confirm that the USB drive, cameras, and SD cards work for read/writes
> on another computer.
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>
> "tewkes" <tewkes@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4F2A6F19-DE61-4672-B472-CD8548949A60@microsoft.com...
> > Why is everyone ruling out Vista so quickly. First, the USB drive was not
> > connected to my old PC when it crashed and burned. Second, even when the
> > USB
> > is disconnected from the new PC and I download photos direct from a camera
> > (2
> > kinds) they are corrupt. These are new photos also that I just took
> > today,
> > not old photos. Also, I formatted both SD cards prior to doing this test.
> >
> > "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:
> >
> >> It would appear that whatever took out your main hard drive also took a
> >> shot
> >> at your USB drive too.. I doubt very much that Vista was the culprit..
> >>
> >>
> >> "tewkes" <tewkes@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:2CB0F141-2A20-4BD0-B7EC-0FB7115CF1B2@microsoft.com...
> >> > My HD crashed last week on my old PC. I was not too worried about it
> >> > since I
> >> > had been backing all pictures up to an external USB drive. Bought a
> >> > new
> >> > HP
> >> > PC with Vista Home Premium. Now when I view JPG files from the
> >> > external
> >> > drive they appear with lines in them and are all jumbled up. Not all
> >> > files,
> >> > but about 30% of them are like this.
> >> >
> >> > Is not...
> >> > program -- tried IRfanview, Xnview, many others
> >> > memory card (SD) - tried several
> >> > camera - tried at least 3
> >> > method of download - tried USB and SD card direct in PC memory reader
> >> >
> >> > Even when I put the Ext. drive on an XP laptop, the images all appear
> >> > the
> >> > same now. I have copied and pasted to another drive in the same PC and
> >> > even
> >> > other PCs and no difference.
> >> >
> >> > A few other strange items related... all thumbnails appear okay, but
> >> > when
> >> > opened they are jumbled. Sometimes the files look different - ie. one
> >> > file
> >> > could be jumbled in one program, then okay in another program,
> >> > sometimes
> >> > even
> >> > in the same program if I log off and back in the files appear
> >> > different.
> >> >
> >> > I can send copies of the files if anyone is interested. Please help.
> >> > I
> >> > am
> >> > very concerned that 30% of all photos I have saved the past 9-10 years
> >> > are
> >> > destroyed.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for your help.
> >> >
> >> > Kris
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike Hall
> >> MS MVP Windows Shell/User
> >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
 
Re: Vista has corrupted 30% of all of my JPG files

One other thing I thought of that may help dispute this as a USB issue...

Even old pictures that I took 8 years ago on a floppy drive that have not
recently been xferred by USB have this issue. This is true of those files on
internal and external hard drives.



"Kerry Brown" wrote:

> Can you view other jpg files OK? Can you download the files from one of the
> cameras on another computer? Are they OK on that computer? Can you then
> transfer them to the Vista computer? Are they still OK?. When
> troubleshooting you have to come up with a plan to eliminate possibilities
> one at a time. So far the the only possibilities you have eliminated are the
> camera and the SD card, as it happens with two different cameras and SD
> cards. You now have to bring another computer into play to eliminate the
> computer. At this point it really does sound like a problem with USB
> transfers. That is what all of the things you have tested have in common.
> They have all been used for transfers to/from this computer. The first I'd
> do is confirm that the USB drive, cameras, and SD cards work for read/writes
> on another computer.
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>
> "tewkes" <tewkes@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4F2A6F19-DE61-4672-B472-CD8548949A60@microsoft.com...
> > Why is everyone ruling out Vista so quickly. First, the USB drive was not
> > connected to my old PC when it crashed and burned. Second, even when the
> > USB
> > is disconnected from the new PC and I download photos direct from a camera
> > (2
> > kinds) they are corrupt. These are new photos also that I just took
> > today,
> > not old photos. Also, I formatted both SD cards prior to doing this test.
> >
> > "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:
> >
> >> It would appear that whatever took out your main hard drive also took a
> >> shot
> >> at your USB drive too.. I doubt very much that Vista was the culprit..
> >>
> >>
> >> "tewkes" <tewkes@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:2CB0F141-2A20-4BD0-B7EC-0FB7115CF1B2@microsoft.com...
> >> > My HD crashed last week on my old PC. I was not too worried about it
> >> > since I
> >> > had been backing all pictures up to an external USB drive. Bought a
> >> > new
> >> > HP
> >> > PC with Vista Home Premium. Now when I view JPG files from the
> >> > external
> >> > drive they appear with lines in them and are all jumbled up. Not all
> >> > files,
> >> > but about 30% of them are like this.
> >> >
> >> > Is not...
> >> > program -- tried IRfanview, Xnview, many others
> >> > memory card (SD) - tried several
> >> > camera - tried at least 3
> >> > method of download - tried USB and SD card direct in PC memory reader
> >> >
> >> > Even when I put the Ext. drive on an XP laptop, the images all appear
> >> > the
> >> > same now. I have copied and pasted to another drive in the same PC and
> >> > even
> >> > other PCs and no difference.
> >> >
> >> > A few other strange items related... all thumbnails appear okay, but
> >> > when
> >> > opened they are jumbled. Sometimes the files look different - ie. one
> >> > file
> >> > could be jumbled in one program, then okay in another program,
> >> > sometimes
> >> > even
> >> > in the same program if I log off and back in the files appear
> >> > different.
> >> >
> >> > I can send copies of the files if anyone is interested. Please help.
> >> > I
> >> > am
> >> > very concerned that 30% of all photos I have saved the past 9-10 years
> >> > are
> >> > destroyed.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for your help.
> >> >
> >> > Kris
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike Hall
> >> MS MVP Windows Shell/User
> >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
 
Re: Vista has corrupted 30% of all of my JPG files

tewkes <tewkes@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Problem still not solved...

Did you plug your camera into someone else's computer that's running
Vista and see what happens?

I've had no problems, running both Vista Ultimate Edition 64 bit and
Vista Home Premium 32 bit on my previous computer and my current HP
M7750N Media Center computer. My camera uses xD cards but I can try a
Sony Memory Stick if that'll help any?

I use a card reader FWIW.



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Re: Vista has corrupted 30% of all of my JPG files

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:22:03 -0700, tewkes
<tewkes@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Problem still not solved... here are some responses to questions posted in
>this forum.

Because I was curious I spent about an hour searching on the web on
this problem. Sadly, like the calculating time remaining issue a LOT
of people seem to have your 30% of JPEG corrupted problem, yet nobody
yet has pinned down what the heck is causing it.

Since it is random and not even downloading the same image reproduces
the problem I would think that narrows it down to hardware or just a
very bad run of bad luck where the memory on each card is bad. I would
lean towards the card reader is bad on either the camera or PC end. If
you have the option have you tried to format one of the SK cards on
the computer?

Does the camera support Vista? Sadly you're stuck in the middle of a
finger pointing contest Where HP will blame Microsoft and Microsoft
will blame HP and both with sooner later probably try to blame whoever
made the camera if that's a different brand.
 
Re: Vista has corrupted 30% of all of my JPG files

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:22:03 -0700, tewkes <tewkes@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>Problem still not solved... here are some responses to questions posted in
>this forum.
>
>1) All hard drives - external and internal are NTFS, not FAT formatted.
Won't state for fact, but my 250 meg external USB drive formats to FAT. It
could be possible yours should be FAT also..

>2) Issue is still happening even on new pictures I take. This happens
>whether downloaded to PC by USB or by the internal card reader. Always using
>SD card, but I've tried 3 cards all with the same results. About 1 in 5
>pictures are goofy now.
30% bad, but only sometimes. Not a good starting point to troubleshoot the
problem. Hmm. How many pix and what resolution can you use with the SD card ?
Also how many pix & what resolution ARE you using ?
What program are you using to move the pictures off the SD card ? Hmm. This
is something I hadn't taken into account. I have 2 digital cameras, but no
removable cards. I use a straight USB cable from cameras to computer. I assume
that you have a cable to plug into the camera to the computer leaving the SD
card in the camera. IOW: 30% - 70% . The camera came with built in memory [30%]
and you added a ???? meg SD card [70%]. I'm wondering if it's possible that's
the problem... Try taking some pix without the SD card, and make the transfers
and see how transfers fare then.
If that shows a problem [you said 3 different SD cards same problem] it might
be the interface in the camera that links the SD card to the camera.

>3) SD cards always formatted on camera, not on PC.
Just a guess, but that wouldn't suggest NTFS format.
NTFS didn't exist 10 years ago either. or USB 2.

>4) Another strange fact I've noticed... not always the same pictures have
>the problems. If I download, then put the SD card back in the camera and
>then re-download to PC, different images are corrupt each time. Usually the
>same, but sometimes okay and sometimes the same image is not okay.
Sounds like contacts in the camera may be arcing. Rubber pencil eraser, or if
the SD card is hard to reach you might need the electronics spray cleaner.
Ear Q-tips and denatured alcohol, but don't drip the alcohol into the works.
hold the works over head, and wipe, allowing the alcohol to use gravity and
drop straight down without settling in the camera innards. or if there is a
reputable camera dealer, let them do the cleaning and explain the problem..

What do you use to view / manipulate the images on the SD Card ? Windows
Explorer ? Have you tried IV to manipulate the images on the SD card ?

>5) I understand the concepts of troubleshooting. I've done all I can to
>rule out certain things. So far it's down to the PC, which could include
>Vista. PC is HP a6110n if that helps. BIOS version 5.08 5/4/2007.
I was under the impression you have 100% success on the XP, but something with
a USB cable and a Sony USB 40g drive causes corruption copying to the Vista
except when plugging the SD card directly into the Vista.
Does the SD card have 100% of the images, or just 70% of the images ? I covered
most above.

>6) I'd be happy to have a "professional" look at the PC, but I'd sure like
>to know who qualifies as "professional" these days. I've contacted
>Microsoft, they tell me to contact HP (after hours on hold of course). I get
>in touch with HP (apparently in India), the guy tells me it's going to cost
>money just to have me talk to someone. I say forget it. Why is it I buy a
>$1000 computer and nobody will touch it. If the auto industry was like this
>with their warranties, it would not be accepted at all. I'd be happy to get
>some references for "professionals" that can speak English and can actual be
>helpful and not just have be try things I've already tried.
I spent an entire day with an Indian M$ pro with my 1 FREE support. I knew more
than he did, and spent 90% of the time figuring out what he was saying. I don't
waste any time with M$. I'm just glad this thing doesn't use the validation
stuff.

>Don't get me wrong, this forum has provided me some insight and I'm
>appreciative of the free help I'm getting. I just can't believe the problem
>I'm having is that hard to solve and here it is almost 6 weeks later and I'm
>no further than I was with the issue.
I might suggest you try and repost the entire problem. Prep your post offline
omitting nothing, and maybe you can snag someone new here. Or do I like do when
I get a real nasty problem, and take it over to the GRC tech news group. I
seldom use them, cause I seldom have a problem I can't solve. But I have used
them twice in the past, and had things fixed after the first few replies.

>"Kerry Brown" wrote:
>
>> Can you view other jpg files OK? Can you download the files from one of the
>> cameras on another computer? Are they OK on that computer? Can you then
>> transfer them to the Vista computer? Are they still OK?. When
>> troubleshooting you have to come up with a plan to eliminate possibilities
>> one at a time. So far the the only possibilities you have eliminated are the
>> camera and the SD card, as it happens with two different cameras and SD
>> cards. You now have to bring another computer into play to eliminate the
>> computer. At this point it really does sound like a problem with USB
>> transfers. That is what all of the things you have tested have in common.
>> They have all been used for transfers to/from this computer. The first I'd
>> do is confirm that the USB drive, cameras, and SD cards work for read/writes
>> on another computer.
>>
>> --
>> Kerry Brown
>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>
>>
>> "tewkes" <tewkes@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:4F2A6F19-DE61-4672-B472-CD8548949A60@microsoft.com...
>> > Why is everyone ruling out Vista so quickly. First, the USB drive was not
>> > connected to my old PC when it crashed and burned. Second, even when the
>> > USB
>> > is disconnected from the new PC and I download photos direct from a camera
>> > (2
>> > kinds) they are corrupt. These are new photos also that I just took
>> > today,
>> > not old photos. Also, I formatted both SD cards prior to doing this test.
Well Vista is a horse of a different color. I had to have BellSouth send a tech
to get online when I hooked up the HP Vista HP. They had to add a pigtail on
the modem line to get it online. where as it was online 1-2 years on the XP
just fine and no mods.

>> >
>> > "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:
>> >
>> >> It would appear that whatever took out your main hard drive also took a
>> >> shot
>> >> at your USB drive too.. I doubt very much that Vista was the culprit..
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "tewkes" <tewkes@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:2CB0F141-2A20-4BD0-B7EC-0FB7115CF1B2@microsoft.com...
>> >> > My HD crashed last week on my old PC. I was not too worried about it
>> >> > since I
>> >> > had been backing all pictures up to an external USB drive. Bought a
>> >> > new
>> >> > HP
>> >> > PC with Vista Home Premium. Now when I view JPG files from the
>> >> > external
>> >> > drive they appear with lines in them and are all jumbled up. Not all
>> >> > files,
>> >> > but about 30% of them are like this.
>> >> >
>> >> > Is not...
>> >> > program -- tried IRfanview, Xnview, many others
>> >> > memory card (SD) - tried several
>> >> > camera - tried at least 3
>> >> > method of download - tried USB and SD card direct in PC memory reader
>> >> >
>> >> > Even when I put the Ext. drive on an XP laptop, the images all appear
>> >> > the
>> >> > same now. I have copied and pasted to another drive in the same PC and
>> >> > even
>> >> > other PCs and no difference.
try and layout what works and what doesn't work in some sort of form layout ie:
SD USB drive camera
Vista fails works fails etc...
XP works works works
extrapolate on images how many & resolution. Where on the card are the bad ones
located ? Instead of thinking it's the card, it could be the camera that's only
filling 70% of the card with good stuff..
You did say it's the same on 3 cards...

>> >> > A few other strange items related... all thumbnails appear okay, but
>> >> > when opened they are jumbled. Sometimes the files look different - ie. one
>> >> > file could be jumbled in one program
[which program is good ?]
>, then okay in another program,
>> >> > sometimes even in the same program if I log off and back in the files appear
>> >> > different.
Log off ???? you mean quit the program ?

>> >> > I can send copies of the files if anyone is interested. Please help.
there's plenty of free web space available for posting images. Can't hurt to
see what we're talking about.

>> >> > I am very concerned that 30% of all photos I have saved the past 9-10 years
>> >> > are destroyed.

That could be a possibility, but I don't believe SD cards, Digital cameras, or
USB drives existed 10 years ago.

You can pick up a $15.00 Radio shack digital spy camera. Don't expect any kind
of worthwhile photos. It worked fine on my XP, and now on the Vista. But that
could rule out a camera and transfers to the computers as the problem.
It's about the size of a Jumbo Sharpie. Uses 2 AAA batteries.
And comes with software to download from the camera.
========================================================
I'm entirely under the impression it's the fact that the SD card is only a
portion of the internal camera memory. The larger portion, but still just a
portion.
leaving the SD card in the camera, what happens with a transfer ? # of pix, and
resolution, and # good and # bad...

transfer from the camera with the SD card removed. What happens ? # of pix, and
resolution, and # good and # bad...
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Re: Vista has corrupted 30% of all of my JPG files

Have you tried copying a good picture several times (Just changing the
file name each time you save)?

Have you tried the same with a bad picture?

If not and you decide to try does the good one eventually go bad? Do
the bad ones change in any way (Not necessarily get worse).

Do any of the files' "Properties" change between a good copy and a bad
copy, e.g. file size? You may not see this in the step above but do you
see changes between a good and a bad copy from the camera. Are there any
changes between good and bad when loaded into IV etc?

See the drive to same drive copy is using the same hardware, from
anything else to that drive is likely going via other chips.


(I believe you said the bad ones stay bad when copied back to XP but
correct me if that's not right).

Do you transfer much of anything else to the Vista machine, aside from
comparing properties it would be a PITA to (Say) listen to 10 copies of
an MP3 for example but if this problem is showing up copying from a
floppy then you don't need very big files for it to happen.




tewkes wrote:
> One other thing I thought of that may help dispute this as a USB issue...
>
> Even old pictures that I took 8 years ago on a floppy drive that have not
> recently been xferred by USB have this issue. This is true of those files on
> internal and external hard drives.
>
>
>
> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>
>> Can you view other jpg files OK? Can you download the files from one of the
>> cameras on another computer? Are they OK on that computer? Can you then
>> transfer them to the Vista computer? Are they still OK?. When
>> troubleshooting you have to come up with a plan to eliminate possibilities
>> one at a time. So far the the only possibilities you have eliminated are the
>> camera and the SD card, as it happens with two different cameras and SD
>> cards. You now have to bring another computer into play to eliminate the
>> computer. At this point it really does sound like a problem with USB
>> transfers. That is what all of the things you have tested have in common.
>> They have all been used for transfers to/from this computer. The first I'd
>> do is confirm that the USB drive, cameras, and SD cards work for read/writes
>> on another computer.
>>
>> --
>> Kerry Brown
>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>
>>
>> "tewkes" <tewkes@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:4F2A6F19-DE61-4672-B472-CD8548949A60@microsoft.com...
>>> Why is everyone ruling out Vista so quickly. First, the USB drive was not
>>> connected to my old PC when it crashed and burned. Second, even when the
>>> USB
>>> is disconnected from the new PC and I download photos direct from a camera
>>> (2
>>> kinds) they are corrupt. These are new photos also that I just took
>>> today,
>>> not old photos. Also, I formatted both SD cards prior to doing this test.
>>>
>>> "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:
>>>
>>>> It would appear that whatever took out your main hard drive also took a
>>>> shot
>>>> at your USB drive too.. I doubt very much that Vista was the culprit..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "tewkes" <tewkes@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:2CB0F141-2A20-4BD0-B7EC-0FB7115CF1B2@microsoft.com...
>>>>> My HD crashed last week on my old PC. I was not too worried about it
>>>>> since I
>>>>> had been backing all pictures up to an external USB drive. Bought a
>>>>> new
>>>>> HP
>>>>> PC with Vista Home Premium. Now when I view JPG files from the
>>>>> external
>>>>> drive they appear with lines in them and are all jumbled up. Not all
>>>>> files,
>>>>> but about 30% of them are like this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is not...
>>>>> program -- tried IRfanview, Xnview, many others
>>>>> memory card (SD) - tried several
>>>>> camera - tried at least 3
>>>>> method of download - tried USB and SD card direct in PC memory reader
>>>>>
>>>>> Even when I put the Ext. drive on an XP laptop, the images all appear
>>>>> the
>>>>> same now. I have copied and pasted to another drive in the same PC and
>>>>> even
>>>>> other PCs and no difference.
>>>>>
>>>>> A few other strange items related... all thumbnails appear okay, but
>>>>> when
>>>>> opened they are jumbled. Sometimes the files look different - ie. one
>>>>> file
>>>>> could be jumbled in one program, then okay in another program,
>>>>> sometimes
>>>>> even
>>>>> in the same program if I log off and back in the files appear
>>>>> different.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can send copies of the files if anyone is interested. Please help.
>>>>> I
>>>>> am
>>>>> very concerned that 30% of all photos I have saved the past 9-10 years
>>>>> are
>>>>> destroyed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kris
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike Hall
>>>> MS MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
 
Re: Vista has corrupted 30% of all of my JPG files

Charlie Tame wrote:


Oops, forgot to add that I am wondering if there's something trying to
do a smart write ahead and it's writing something to the drive's buffer
which is not actually making it to the disk but instead being
overwritten as a result of some bus timing error, this could well be
random or dependent on load. I appreciate this is guessing at pretty
long odds but we're running out of easy options here :)

It is odd that it seems only to be pictures.
 
Re: Vista has corrupted 30% of all of my JPG files

I would try to isolate the problem to either hardware or sofware by
replacing the hard drive by another one and installing an earlier
version of Windows. Then if the problem still persists, it's probably
a hardware problem; if the problem goes away, it's a software problem.

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:22:03 -0700, tewkes
<tewkes@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Problem still not solved... here are some responses to questions posted in
>this forum.
>
>1) All hard drives - external and internal are NTFS, not FAT formatted.
>2) Issue is still happening even on new pictures I take. This happens
>whether downloaded to PC by USB or by the internal card reader. Always using
>SD card, but I've tried 3 cards all with the same results. About 1 in 5
>pictures are goofy now.
>3) SD cards always formatted on camera, not on PC.
>4) Another strange fact I've noticed... not always the same pictures have
>the problems. If I download, then put the SD card back in the camera and
>then re-download to PC, different images are corrupt each time. Usually the
>same, but sometimes okay and sometimes the same image is not okay.
>5) I understand the concepts of troubleshooting. I've done all I can to
>rule out certain things. So far it's down to the PC, which could include
>Vista. PC is HP a6110n if that helps. BIOS version 5.08 5/4/2007.
>6) I'd be happy to have a "professional" look at the PC, but I'd sure like
>to know who qualifies as "professional" these days. I've contacted
>Microsoft, they tell me to contact HP (after hours on hold of course). I get
>in touch with HP (apparently in India), the guy tells me it's going to cost
>money just to have me talk to someone. I say forget it. Why is it I buy a
>$1000 computer and nobody will touch it. If the auto industry was like this
>with their warranties, it would not be accepted at all. I'd be happy to get
>some references for "professionals" that can speak English and can actual be
>helpful and not just have be try things I've already tried.
>
>Don't get me wrong, this forum has provided me some insight and I'm
>appreciative of the free help I'm getting. I just can't believe the problem
>I'm having is that hard to solve and here it is almost 6 weeks later and I'm
>no further than I was with the issue.
>
>If someone can solve this problem, I'll buy them a 6 pack of their favorite
>beverage.
>
>Thanks.
>
>tewkes
>
>
>"Kerry Brown" wrote:
>
>> Can you view other jpg files OK? Can you download the files from one of the
>> cameras on another computer? Are they OK on that computer? Can you then
>> transfer them to the Vista computer? Are they still OK?. When
>> troubleshooting you have to come up with a plan to eliminate possibilities
>> one at a time. So far the the only possibilities you have eliminated are the
>> camera and the SD card, as it happens with two different cameras and SD
>> cards. You now have to bring another computer into play to eliminate the
>> computer. At this point it really does sound like a problem with USB
>> transfers. That is what all of the things you have tested have in common.
>> They have all been used for transfers to/from this computer. The first I'd
>> do is confirm that the USB drive, cameras, and SD cards work for read/writes
>> on another computer.
>>
>> --
>> Kerry Brown
>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>
>>
>> "tewkes" <tewkes@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:4F2A6F19-DE61-4672-B472-CD8548949A60@microsoft.com...
>> > Why is everyone ruling out Vista so quickly. First, the USB drive was not
>> > connected to my old PC when it crashed and burned. Second, even when the
>> > USB
>> > is disconnected from the new PC and I download photos direct from a camera
>> > (2
>> > kinds) they are corrupt. These are new photos also that I just took
>> > today,
>> > not old photos. Also, I formatted both SD cards prior to doing this test.
>> >
>> > "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:
>> >
>> >> It would appear that whatever took out your main hard drive also took a
>> >> shot
>> >> at your USB drive too.. I doubt very much that Vista was the culprit..
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "tewkes" <tewkes@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:2CB0F141-2A20-4BD0-B7EC-0FB7115CF1B2@microsoft.com...
>> >> > My HD crashed last week on my old PC. I was not too worried about it
>> >> > since I
>> >> > had been backing all pictures up to an external USB drive. Bought a
>> >> > new
>> >> > HP
>> >> > PC with Vista Home Premium. Now when I view JPG files from the
>> >> > external
>> >> > drive they appear with lines in them and are all jumbled up. Not all
>> >> > files,
>> >> > but about 30% of them are like this.
>> >> >
>> >> > Is not...
>> >> > program -- tried IRfanview, Xnview, many others
>> >> > memory card (SD) - tried several
>> >> > camera - tried at least 3
>> >> > method of download - tried USB and SD card direct in PC memory reader
>> >> >
>> >> > Even when I put the Ext. drive on an XP laptop, the images all appear
>> >> > the
>> >> > same now. I have copied and pasted to another drive in the same PC and
>> >> > even
>> >> > other PCs and no difference.
>> >> >
>> >> > A few other strange items related... all thumbnails appear okay, but
>> >> > when
>> >> > opened they are jumbled. Sometimes the files look different - ie. one
>> >> > file
>> >> > could be jumbled in one program, then okay in another program,
>> >> > sometimes
>> >> > even
>> >> > in the same program if I log off and back in the files appear
>> >> > different.
>> >> >
>> >> > I can send copies of the files if anyone is interested. Please help.
>> >> > I
>> >> > am
>> >> > very concerned that 30% of all photos I have saved the past 9-10 years
>> >> > are
>> >> > destroyed.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for your help.
>> >> >
>> >> > Kris
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Mike Hall
>> >> MS MVP Windows Shell/User
>> >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
 
Re: Vista has corrupted 30% of all of my JPG files


Well, I downgraded my system to XP and the problem has completely
disappeared. All of my picture transfers are now100% accurate. Exact
same hardware. Looks like it's definitely a software problem with
Vista. My guess would be incompatible drivers for the USB devices.

So I have decided to stick with XP for now.

The downgrade to XP has however caused me other problems and I have had
to locate nVIDIA motherboard chipset drivers and Realtek audio
management software to make it work. The last step is to locate an XP
video driver for my ATI card which i'm having trouble finding, but
that's another topic. Irritating enough problem though, as I can not
change my screen resolution and my pictures appear to be horizontally
stretched (but at least they are not corrupted). The video controllers
in the device manager have yellow question marks indicating no drivers
are installed. I think I may have one of those new AMD video cards
that are comparable to the ATI Radeon XT X1600. My biggest fear is
that XP drivers may not exist for it? Once again, I have an Acer
Aspire E380 with AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ @ 2200 MHz.


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Re: Vista has corrupted 30% of all of my JPG files

On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 06:18:28 +0530, wbarbourca <wbarbourca.2wgsre@DoNotSpam.com>
wrote:

>The downgrade to XP has however caused me other problems and I have had
>to locate nVIDIA motherboard chipset drivers and Realtek audio
>management software to make it work. The last step is to locate an XP
>video driver for my ATI card which i'm having trouble finding, but
Just go to ATI, but don't ask me for any ATI help. I had ATI for 6 years too
long.
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Re: Vista has corrupted 30% of all of my JPG files

Here's another frustrating update:

1) Still have the problem. Absolutely no changes since before. Still about
20-30% of pictures I download (any method possible) from both digital cameras
(SD and Memory Stick media).
2) I completely blew and and reformatted the 2 storage HDs I use (1 internal
+ 1 external). Both NTFS formatted. The only drive not reformatted was my
main OS drive.
3) I do not know anyone with Vista, so I have yet to test downloading photos
direct from camera to another PC with Vista. I have tried downloading photos
to an XP laptop with no differences seen. Pictures still jumbled.
4) As far as I can tell it's jus jpg files still, but I have not opened
every mp3 on my PC to confirm integrity.

I'm not getting anywhere with this at all and becoming more and more
frustrated daily. I have considered all recommendations so far to no avail.

Could it be some strange virus doing this? I have Norton Antivirus with up
to date definitions. Grasping for straws here.

I did just get a blue screen error for the first time on my new computer
today. Stated it was a kcom.sys page fault error. Not sure if it is related.

Thanks again for all of the help and suggestions. Keep them coming.

tewkes

"tewkes" wrote:

> Problem still not solved... here are some responses to questions posted in
> this forum.
>
> 1) All hard drives - external and internal are NTFS, not FAT formatted.
> 2) Issue is still happening even on new pictures I take. This happens
> whether downloaded to PC by USB or by the internal card reader. Always using
> SD card, but I've tried 3 cards all with the same results. About 1 in 5
> pictures are goofy now.
> 3) SD cards always formatted on camera, not on PC.
> 4) Another strange fact I've noticed... not always the same pictures have
> the problems. If I download, then put the SD card back in the camera and
> then re-download to PC, different images are corrupt each time. Usually the
> same, but sometimes okay and sometimes the same image is not okay.
> 5) I understand the concepts of troubleshooting. I've done all I can to
> rule out certain things. So far it's down to the PC, which could include
> Vista. PC is HP a6110n if that helps. BIOS version 5.08 5/4/2007.
> 6) I'd be happy to have a "professional" look at the PC, but I'd sure like
> to know who qualifies as "professional" these days. I've contacted
> Microsoft, they tell me to contact HP (after hours on hold of course). I get
> in touch with HP (apparently in India), the guy tells me it's going to cost
> money just to have me talk to someone. I say forget it. Why is it I buy a
> $1000 computer and nobody will touch it. If the auto industry was like this
> with their warranties, it would not be accepted at all. I'd be happy to get
> some references for "professionals" that can speak English and can actual be
> helpful and not just have be try things I've already tried.
>
> Don't get me wrong, this forum has provided me some insight and I'm
> appreciative of the free help I'm getting. I just can't believe the problem
> I'm having is that hard to solve and here it is almost 6 weeks later and I'm
> no further than I was with the issue.
>
> If someone can solve this problem, I'll buy them a 6 pack of their favorite
> beverage.
>
> Thanks.
>
> tewkes
>
>
> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>
> > Can you view other jpg files OK? Can you download the files from one of the
> > cameras on another computer? Are they OK on that computer? Can you then
> > transfer them to the Vista computer? Are they still OK?. When
> > troubleshooting you have to come up with a plan to eliminate possibilities
> > one at a time. So far the the only possibilities you have eliminated are the
> > camera and the SD card, as it happens with two different cameras and SD
> > cards. You now have to bring another computer into play to eliminate the
> > computer. At this point it really does sound like a problem with USB
> > transfers. That is what all of the things you have tested have in common.
> > They have all been used for transfers to/from this computer. The first I'd
> > do is confirm that the USB drive, cameras, and SD cards work for read/writes
> > on another computer.
> >
> > --
> > Kerry Brown
> > Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> > http://www.vistahelp.ca
> >
> >
> > "tewkes" <tewkes@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:4F2A6F19-DE61-4672-B472-CD8548949A60@microsoft.com...
> > > Why is everyone ruling out Vista so quickly. First, the USB drive was not
> > > connected to my old PC when it crashed and burned. Second, even when the
> > > USB
> > > is disconnected from the new PC and I download photos direct from a camera
> > > (2
> > > kinds) they are corrupt. These are new photos also that I just took
> > > today,
> > > not old photos. Also, I formatted both SD cards prior to doing this test.
> > >
> > > "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:
> > >
> > >> It would appear that whatever took out your main hard drive also took a
> > >> shot
> > >> at your USB drive too.. I doubt very much that Vista was the culprit..
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "tewkes" <tewkes@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:2CB0F141-2A20-4BD0-B7EC-0FB7115CF1B2@microsoft.com...
> > >> > My HD crashed last week on my old PC. I was not too worried about it
> > >> > since I
> > >> > had been backing all pictures up to an external USB drive. Bought a
> > >> > new
> > >> > HP
> > >> > PC with Vista Home Premium. Now when I view JPG files from the
> > >> > external
> > >> > drive they appear with lines in them and are all jumbled up. Not all
> > >> > files,
> > >> > but about 30% of them are like this.
> > >> >
> > >> > Is not...
> > >> > program -- tried IRfanview, Xnview, many others
> > >> > memory card (SD) - tried several
> > >> > camera - tried at least 3
> > >> > method of download - tried USB and SD card direct in PC memory reader
> > >> >
> > >> > Even when I put the Ext. drive on an XP laptop, the images all appear
> > >> > the
> > >> > same now. I have copied and pasted to another drive in the same PC and
> > >> > even
> > >> > other PCs and no difference.
> > >> >
> > >> > A few other strange items related... all thumbnails appear okay, but
> > >> > when
> > >> > opened they are jumbled. Sometimes the files look different - ie. one
> > >> > file
> > >> > could be jumbled in one program, then okay in another program,
> > >> > sometimes
> > >> > even
> > >> > in the same program if I log off and back in the files appear
> > >> > different.
> > >> >
> > >> > I can send copies of the files if anyone is interested. Please help.
> > >> > I
> > >> > am
> > >> > very concerned that 30% of all photos I have saved the past 9-10 years
> > >> > are
> > >> > destroyed.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks for your help.
> > >> >
> > >> > Kris
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Mike Hall
> > >> MS MVP Windows Shell/User
> > >> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
 
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